Howard Dean is scary!!!!!

stewie said:

I'm sure you must have just forgot that SOCIAL JUSTICE is a compound word.

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social justice is not a compound word.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-compound-word.htm

your argument, a 'for all' argument, is a tough one to prove. all it takes is one solitary example of social justice worked into our founding documents to disprove. and i have named not just one, but several, worked directly into our founding documents by our founding fathers.

i would be done debating with a genius like yourself who does not know when a contraction is called for, what a compund word is, how to spell college, guilt, and enslave (among others), how logic works....but it is simply too fun to point out your obvious intellectual shortcomings and your love of parroting glenn beck.

face it: you are trying to push a glenn beck argument, one which he concocted to bait gullible simpletons, and YOU BOUGHT IT.

i hope you are proud of that.

UncleBuck said:

social justice is not a compound word.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-compound-word.htm

your argument, a 'for all' argument, is a tough one to prove. all it takes is one solitary example of social justice worked into our founding documents to disprove. and i have named not just one, but several, worked directly into our founding documents by our founding fathers.

i would be done debating with a genius like yourself who does not know when a contraction is called for, what a compund word is, how to spell college, guilt, and enslave (among others), how logic works....but it is simply too fun to point out your obvious intellectual shortcomings and your love of parroting glenn beck.

face it: you are trying to push a glenn beck argument, one which he concocted to bait gullible simpletons, and YOU BOUGHT IT.

i hope you are proud of that.

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Facts are Facts and history is history TRUTH. Yours is a flawed personal philosophical belief. Your wrong!

stewie

UncleBuck said:

social justice is not a compound word.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-compound-word.htm

your argument, a 'for all' argument, is a tough one to prove. all it takes is one solitary example of social justice worked into our founding documents to disprove. and i have named not just one, but several, worked directly into our founding documents by our founding fathers.

i would be done debating with a genius like yourself who does not know when a contraction is called for, what a compund word is, how to spell college, guilt, and enslave (among others), how logic works....but it is simply too fun to point out your obvious intellectual shortcomings and your love of parroting glenn beck.

face it: you are trying to push a glenn beck argument, one which he concocted to bait gullible simpletons, and YOU BOUGHT IT.

i hope you are proud of that.

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Read Thomas Paine From Common Sense - The Founding fathers disliked liberal minded appeasers like yourself. Read it for yourself, GOOGLE IT! HIS exact words in black in white. Once again your flaw liberal philological beliefs make you incapable of understanding the most simple of concepts. YOU ARE WRONG!!!!! ALL YOUR THOUGHTS ARE BASED OFF A PHILOSOPHY! dude go back to your xbox!

stewie

stewie said:

Facts are Facts and history is history TRUTH. Yours is a flawed personal philosophical belief. Your wrong!

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"you're wrong"...would be the proper formulation of that thought.

history is not truth...it is told through the lens of the author.

paine's agrarian justice, franklin's founding of the fire dept and libararies, the founding fathers' instituting the usps, the military, and public thoroughfares....these are FACTS (not 'flawed personal philosophical belief').

all point to the incontrovertible fact that the founding fathers had some degree of belief in social justice.

'all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights' <---if that is not a central tenet of social justice, i don't know what is.

game over, you lose.

you should realize that glenn beck is not always right. something tells me you are too stubborn for that.

Thomas Payne wrote Common Sense not the Constitution. He didn’t sign it or the Declaration. Common Sense helped light the fire but not all of its ideas were incorporated in the founding.

“the United States did not have government-run fire departments until around the time of the American Civil War. Prior to this time, private fire brigades compete with one another to be the first to respond to a fire because insurance companies paid brigades to save buildings” LINK

A good transportation system is important to national defense. A military is also required to defend the nation it’s not about social justice. The post office I’ll give you because it’s defiantly full of people I would never employee.

UncleBuck said:

'all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights' <---if that is not a central tenet of social justice, i don't know what is.

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You left off a few words.
"with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness".

“Liberty is the concept of ideological and political philosophy that identifies the condition to which an individual has the right to behave according to one's own personal responsibility and free will”.

Social justice is fine for a religious organization but has no place in government. America wasn’t founded on the idea of taking from one group and give to another. It was based on the idea that the individual’s right to their own property and time is greater than societies claim to it.

BudMcLovin said:

Thomas Payne wrote Common Sense not the Constitution. He didn’t sign it or the Declaration. Common Sense helped light the fire but not all of its ideas were incorporated in the founding.

“the United States did not have government-run fire departments until around the time of the American Civil War. Prior to this time, private fire brigades compete with one another to be the first to respond to a fire because insurance companies paid brigades to save buildings” LINK

A good transportation system is important to national defense. A military is also required to defend the nation it’s not about social justice. The post office I’ll give you because it’s defiantly full of people I would never employee.



You left off a few words.
"with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness".

“Liberty is the concept of ideological and political philosophy that identifies the condition to which an individual has the right to behave according to one's own personal responsibility and free will”.

Social justice is fine for a religious organization but has no place in government. America wasn’t founded on the idea of taking from one group and give to another. It was based on the idea that the individual’s right to their own property and time is greater than societies claim to it.

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thank you for having an original thought, mclovin.

but you still just conceded me the argument.

my assertion is that the foudning fathers made SOME allowance for social justice.

all i need to prove my point is ONE example.

you'd be hard-pressed not to call payne one of our founding fathers. and he definitely had some concepts espousing social justice. but let's suppose he never existed...

you still have franklin, who as you pointed out did not get fire depts, but espoused the idea. he also espoused public libraries and never patented the lightning rod, citing its social benefits. but let's pretend franklin never existed.

you gave me the usps...so that alone is a win. but let's disregard that as well.

so let's focus on SOLELY the military...who will defend ALL citizens, no matter whether they contribute to the national defense or not...

so clearly the founding fathers allowed for some amount of social justice.

how could they not? they were, after all, proponents of judeo-christian values, a central tenet of which is social justice. social justice originates from judeo-christian values.

so clearly it has SOME place in government, rather than NO place in government.

do i hear glenn beck sobbing in the distance?

Wow you liberals really got your stuff wrong! Simple common municipal functions does not have any relation with any type of "social justice". How can you even think you can pass that off like it make scene. When in fact it would be just the opposite at this point. Police, Fire suffer from Liberal "social justice" . So at this point you are reaching for air!

Next if you are going to quote one of the most important pieces of " OUR " way of life the you should have at least the common courtesy to quote it properly! Also you trying to link it to social justice is really falling over the edge right now for you.

" WE hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights,that among these are life....."

Wow the liberal inalienable rights, you would know it is unalienable rights if you had read it.It's not something you forget ! GOOGLE IT!!!! Also if you had some basic understanding of "OUR" country you would see the error in your ways. !

Your Flawed Liberal philosophical beliefs!!!! Just beliefs, verse history. lol

It's ok to read real history it won't burn your eyes.

stewie

stewie said:

How can you even think you can pass that off like it make scene.

It's ok to read real history it won't burn your eyes.

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it's ok to read an english book, it won't burn your eyes. does that make scene to you?

your lack of education is showing...

EDIT - you didn't even conjugate properly. seriously dude, can you see that your lack of education prohibits me from taking you seriously?

stewie said:

...you liberals ..." OUR " way of life ..."OUR" country ...

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ahem...

this country is MY country as well. you do not own it with your glenn beck philosophy.

by the way, please learn the difference between 'verse' and 'versus'

again, your lack of education is showing...

" social justice " is not part of Jedo-christian values and principles. It is part of the catholic religion. If you don't know the difference the google it!

stewie

stewie said:

" social justice " is not part of Jedo-christian values and principles. It is part of the catholic religion. If you don't know the difference the google it!

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all catholics are christians, genius.

social justice is also a part of judaism (take a jew's word on this one).

tzedakah, tikkun olam....google them.

you are full of fail...

your lack of education is showing....again....

Deuteronomy 15:7, 11
If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother. There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land
Proverbs 11:24-25
One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
Proverbs 14:31
He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

Sounds like it is a principle in JUDEO-Christian values to me . . . but then again, he is just an infant . . .

UncleBuck said:

ahem...

this country is MY country as well. you do not own it with your glenn beck philosophy.

by the way, please learn the difference between 'verse' and 'versus'

again, your lack of education is showing...

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Who's lack of education...... unalienable rights VERSUS unalienable right. verse a typo ? And yes " OUR " Yours and Mine, Hers and His! Can you explain how Glenn Beck wrote history ? You yell Glenn Beck, Glenn Beck like how he made history up at of thin air! The only history he has wrote was getting 500,000 people to D/C !

Your flawed failed liberal philosophy only blinds you! If you would read you would see!

stewie

Deuteronomy 14:28-29
At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year's produce and store it in your towns, so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the aliens, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the LORD your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.

HomeGrown&Smoked said:

Deuteronomy 15:7, 11
If there is a poor man among your brothers in any of the towns of the land that the LORD your God is giving you, do not be hardhearted or tightfisted toward your poor brother. There will always be poor people in the land. Therefore I command you to be openhanded toward your brothers and toward the poor and needy in your land
Proverbs 11:24-25
One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.
Proverbs 14:31
He who oppresses the poor shows contempt for their Maker, but whoever is kind to the needy honors God.

Sounds like it is a principle in JUDEO-Christian values to me . . . but then again, he is just an infant . . .

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Taking care of brother in faith and family does not mean by sword of the goverment!

stewie

stewie said:

Who's lack of education...... unalienable rights VERSUS unalienable right. verse a typo ? And yes " OUR " Yours and Mine, Hers and His! Can you explain how Glenn Beck wrote history ? You yell Glenn Beck, Glenn Beck like how he made history up at of thin air! The only history he has wrote was getting 500,000 people to D/C !

Your flawed failed liberal philosophy only blinds you! If you would read you would see!

stewie

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More like 87,000.

stewie said:

Who's lack of education

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:facepalm:

btw, only 87,000 (+- 5%) at Glenn Beck's rally, according to scientific estimates.

stewie said:

Taking care of brother in faith and family does not mean by sword of the goverment!

stewie

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They haven't used swords for some time now. And when no one else steps up to take care of these folks, the government takes it upon itself to do so. You will appreciate it after you turn 67, or if something debilitating happens to you before then . . .

stewie said:

Taking care of brother in faith and family does not mean by sword of the goverment!

stewie

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Leviticus 23:22
When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God.

stewie said:

Mine " Divine Providence" says God sees all. You will answer to him.

stewie

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so, in post #35, you claim the will and intent of what our founding fathers did was all (100% = not a single counterexample) in the name of 'divine providence'....or, as you described it, the quote above^^^

so, we will answer to god, who commands us to act in ways that not only allow for social justice, but in fact command it!

so by your own words, YOU favor social justice....


babahahhabahahahahabahahabahabahabahabga

UncleBuck said:

Leviticus 23:22
When you reap the harvest of your land, do not reap to the very edges of your field or gather the gleanings of your harvest. Leave them for the poor and the alien. I am the LORD your God.




so, in post #35, you claim the will and intent of what our founding fathers did was in the name of 'divine providence'....or, as you described it, the quote above^^^

so, we will answer to god, who commands us to act in ways that not only allow for social justice, but in fact command it!

so by your own words, YOU favor social justice....


babahahhabahahahahabahahabahabahabahabga

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LOL- is this the internet equivalent of a dog chasing its own tail?