How to survive prison?

I never joined a gang. I was only doing 25 months and did not want to do more.
Gangs in prison have their role. They are a sort of twisted equilibrium to eachother and the cops. Most prisoners seperate themselves by color and race, with the latinos also going sereno and norteno, and the blacks with their gang from the street.
Gangs can get you things. Drugs, protection and other stuff. They also make you do things for that help. You hold guns and drugs. You hurt people. You extort. You rape. Things that besides being repugnant, will also get you more time than some weed would. So, unless you are doing real time, stay away.
I was able to walk a very narrow line inside, because I was an educated white boy that knew the rules and didnt play games. I was there to do my own time and not anyone elses. I also didnt look or talk at the other races or even the total backwoods crackers as if I was any better then them.

Cheese x Kush said:

Yea man theres a split part but i dont think you would want to go there its for pedos snitches people that would be a risk go there

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so it's either join a gang or ..... what? would you just baracade yourself in your cell or what.

40acres said:

I never joined a gang. I was only doing 25 months and did not want to do more.
Gangs in prison have their role. They are a sort of twisted equilibrium to eachother and the cops. Most prisoners seperate themselves by color and race, with the latinos also going sereno and norteno, and the blacks with their gang from the street.
Gangs can get you things. Drugs, protection and other stuff. They also make you do things for that help. You hold guns and drugs. You hurt people. You extort. You rape. Things that besides being repugnant, will also get you more time than some weed would. So, unless you are doing real time, stay away.
I was able to walk a very narrow line inside, because I was an educated white boy that knew the rules and didnt play games. I was there to do my own time and not anyone elses. I also didnt look or talk at the other races or even the total backwoods crackers as if I was any better then them.

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so what, you just stayed away from everyone? never made eye contact? I don't think I'll have to worry about going to jail, but it would be nice to know what types of things I can do to keep myself independent and get the fuck out of there asap.

find the biggest, baddest, meanest, motherfucker and walk right up and bite off his nose. you should be all good after that.

Jail is jail man, You just keep your head down and do your time ,Do not get involved in any 1s bizz ,
Its not a picnic any think but that and its a rude awaking to young men that normally dont get involved in crime just like smoking some herbs

fdd2blk said:

find the biggest, baddest, meanest, motherfucker and walk right up and bite off his nose. you should be all good after that.

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that always seems to be what people suggest, but is it really the best idea? i mean, seems to me that if you walk in there and fuck up the biggest dude in the joint, there is going to be somebody connected to him, and now your fucked. am I right?

I'm not sure if its the same for state/federal prison as for county jail, but, if you can be a trustee, get a job in the kitchen and stay well fed....preferably the ODR, officers dining room, they eat rather well, at least they did where I was at.

Cheese x Kush said:

Jail is jail man, You just keep your head down and do your time ,Do not get involved in any 1s bizz ,
Its not a picnic any think but that and its a rude awaking to young men that normally dont get involved in crime just like smoking some herbs

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i agree you can get "dry ass raped" in a gang or alone in prison do your time and try to educate yourself todays correction system is not made to correct but to punish. i belive that most of us here are normal people and would be totally out of our elemnt in prison if you can read people you can survive in any enviornment. Stay true to yourself and always try to benifit from any situation that is thrown at you...
in other words be the overwatered half dead plant that rises from all bullshit the man can throw at you

gotdamunchies said:

I'm not sure if its the same for state/federal prison as for county jail, but, if you can be a trustee, get a job in the kitchen and stay well fed....preferably the ODR, officers dining room, they eat rather well, at least they did where I was at.

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trustees are generally labeled as snitches. Don't talk to co's unless you are getting something from them.
and no, you don't walk with your head down and you do make eye contact, just not overextended skull fucking eye contact.I talked to alot of people and had alot of acquaintances. Not friends. if i didnt know them from the streets, and they couldn't do something for me on the outside, what are we suppossed to do, send eachother birthday cards and shit. these people are in prison for a reason. At least a felony reason. I was in places with killers and gangbangers, and armed robbers.

40acres said:

Yes you are all right. Don't ever tell the government anything without a lawyer present. If you have been arrested, they have enough evidence without you telling on yourself for you to go to jail.If you have been arrested and not charged, they are fishing for anything that is enough evidence to put you in jail.The VERY FIRST thing you need to state is your right to counsel. It is a constitutionally gauranteed right and cannot be overlooked unless you give them consent and waive this right.
Cops cannot make deals so do not think they will or can help you. It is entirely up to the prosecutor and judge.

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They have to charge you with a crime or release you with in 48 hrs. There is a good chance that they will have to release you in 48 hrs if they do not have enough evidence as long as you keep your mouth shut and not incriminate yourself. The more questions you answer the more evidence you give them to build a case against you. There have been many people that they know have committed a crime such as murder and because the suspect did not talk they had to release them due to lack of evidence and the case goes cold and remains open for years. Just watch the show the First 48 if you want insight into police interrogation techniques. Just remember that anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.

the first 48, man that is my favorite show. they have no evidence and get guys to admit they shot someone in cold blood. dumb motherfuckers talk themselves right into a life bid.

40 Acres What were you charged with?

Posession of paraphnellia with intent to grow, and 2X obstruction of justice.

40acres said:

trustees are generally labeled as snitches. Don't talk to co's unless you are getting something from them.
and no, you don't walk with your head down and you do make eye contact, just not overextended skull fucking eye contact.I talked to alot of people and had alot of acquaintances. Not friends. if i didnt know them from the streets, and they couldn't do something for me on the outside, what are we suppossed to do, send eachother birthday cards and shit. these people are in prison for a reason. At least a felony reason. I was in places with killers and gangbangers, and armed robbers.

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Don't stare, but walk with some fuckin' pride. You don't have to be the baddest fucker in the shadow of the valley of death but if carry yourself right you'll get left alone as you are right people look for weakness.


I also kept myself busy, you have a lot of free time and you can get into some deep shit if you let your attitude and mind wonder too much. It is where I learned to box a bit, I didn't do my time in an adult prison though.

I think i will do two of these a day if noone has complaints.
NUMBER 4
Convicts have a pretty good idea what you are in for already. So do't go in and claim to be murderer if you are only in for too many DUI's. Sounds stupid, but it happens alot.
On the same token, don't be Billy Badass. You aren't. There is always someone bigger and badder. Especially if you are a person able to use a computer. There are many people with nothing to do for lifetimes, so don't think one of them won't punch your card.

ORECAL said:

so it's either join a gang or ..... what? would you just baracade yourself in your cell or what.

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if you refuse to leave your cell at times when you are allowed to for rec or whatnot, people will think you are chickenshit (they'd be right) and get at you the first chance they could

The only advice for anyone that hasnt been there......Its not what you see on TV and if you start a fight you most likley wont make it out of the showers. You do somthing wrong everyone gets punished for it so you put your self at risk for getting your ass whooped or worse killed.

Best advice is to stay to yourself dont talk to anyone and do your time...80% of the people I met in prison where trying to do their time and go home to their familys. They could give a shit less what you do as long as you dont affect them. Gangs are the same as on the street and shouldnt be trusted they only want you to do their dirty work just ignore them.

There is only one thing that you never do in prison and thats SNITCH you will get killed and the guards WILL tell them who snitched on them. The guards are NOT police they are people that turned in a apllication respect them they respect you. Dont fight or blame guards for what they do it is their JOB to watch prisoners and you are the reason you are there not them.

Zoomin Loomen said:

if you refuse to leave your cell at times when you are allowed to for rec or whatnot, people will think you are chickenshit (they'd be right) and get at you the first chance they could

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Not true gangs dont just pick out the weak and kill them. They pick out the weak to do dirty work if you say "I dont want to im just trying to sit out my time" they will respect that and move on to the next guy to try and scare in to doing dirty work.

People dont think in jail thats what gets your ass kicked. Just sit there and do your time thats all you can do. Or you could join a gang and think your tough until you realize you yourself are the pussy.

if confronted and in a dire situation, make like you were gonna bitch out and suck dudes dick then bite it off

gouge eyes, punch throats, bite and break fingers, throw elbows, headbutt, if you get someone down dont let them up

so youd advise barricading yourself in your cell? are you serious?

i didnt advocate going out and starting a fight but you cant fucking hide