how to make an organic cloning hormone

kronus935

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“Willow Water” – How it Works

“Willow Water” is a homebrew plant rooting hormone that is easily made and can be used to increase the strike rate (growth of roots) of cuttings that you’re trying to propagate.The way that it works can be attributed to two substances that can be found within the*Salix(Willow) species, namely, indolebutyric acid (IBA) and Salicylic acid (SA).Indolebutyric acid (IBA) is a plant hormone that stimulates root growth. It is present in high concentrations in the growing tips of willow branches. By using the actively growing parts of a willow branch, cutting them, and soaking them in water, you can get significant quantities of IBA to leach out into the water.Salicylic acid (SA) (which is a chemical similar to the headache medicine*Aspirin) is a plant hormone which is involved in signalling a plant’s defences, it is involved in the process of “systemic acquired resistance” (SAR) – where an attack on one part of the plant induces a resistance response to pathogens (triggers the plant’s internal defences) in other parts of the plant. It can also trigger a defence response in nearby plants by converting the salicylic acid into a volatile chemical form.When you make willow water, both salicylic acid and IBA leach into the water, and both have a beneficial effect when used for the propagation of cuttings. One of the biggest threats to newly propagated cuttings is infection by bacteria and fungi. Salicylic acid helps plants to fight off infection, and can thus give cuttings a better chance of survival. Plants, when attacked by infectious agents, often do not produce salicylic acid quickly enough to defend themselves, so providing the acid in water can be particularly beneficial.Willow water can be made from cuttings of any tree or shrub of the willow family, a group of plants with the scientific name of Salix. The more cuttings that are used and the longer they are soaked in water, the stronger will be the resulting willow water. Recommendations for the exact method of soaking vary. Cold water can be used, and soaking times of four or more weeks are often quoted. Other gardeners use boiling water to steep the willow twigs and soak the mixture for around 24 hours.**

How to Make “Willow Water”

Here is the procedure for making willow water:Collect young first-year twigs and stems of any of willow (Salix spp.) species, these have green or yellow bark. Don’t use the older growth that has brown or gray bark.Remove all the leaves, these are not used. Don’t waste good green material though, compost the leaves or throw them in the garden as mulch.Take the twigs and cut them up into short pieces around 1" (2.5cm) long.The next step is to add the water. there are several techniques to extract the natural plant rooting hormones:a) Place the chopped willow twigs in a container and cover with boiling water, just like making tea, and allow the “tea” to stand overnight.b) Place the chopped willow twigs in a container and cover with tap water (unheated), and let it soak for several days.When finished, separate the liquid from the twigs by carefully pouring out the liquid, or pouring it through a strainer or sieve. The liquid is now ready to use for rooting cuttings. You can keep the liquid for up to two months if you put it in a jar with a tight fitting lid and keep the liquid in the refrigerator. Remember to label the jar so you remember what it is, and write down the date you brewed it up, and to aid the memory, write down the date that it should be used by, which is two months from the date it was made!**To use, just pour some willow water into a small jar, and place the cuttings in there like flowers in a vase, and leave them there to soak overnight for several hours so that they take up the plant rooting hormone. Then prepare them as you would when propagating any other cuttings.The second way to use willow water is to use it to water the propagating medium in which you have placed cuttings. Watering your cuttings twice with willow water should be enough to help them root.
 

kronus935

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This is the most natural way to clone other than just sticking a cutting in water and hoping it roots i really hope this helps no chemicals just nature. It works better than any gel or powder i have ever used fully rooted in 5-10 days from cutting.
 

sullivan666

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This is awesome thanks for sharing.

For me, living in the desert with plenty of aloe around, I plan on using it to clone, but for those with Willow trees around this sounds like a great method.
 

NightOwlBono

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I have read about this,I have also read about using non-pasteurized honey

what if you boiled up some water,mixed in a little honey added to a bucket of willows and aerated it for a couple days?
 

kronus935

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Honey is a natural antibiotic,antifungal, and antimicrobal but it does premote root growth if any thing i would add a lil at a time with the willow branches like maybe a half a teaspoon per gal then maybe try a lil more or a little less until you get it dialed in the only worry i would say is if your cloning directly into soil it could kill any benifical fungus and bacteria. It maybe worth it to do it as a test.

Sullivan...i agree i love all natural methods i have an aloe plant i will give it a try on half of my next batch of clones let me know how you make out if you do it before me i will post on here after i clone with aloe and let you know my experiance and see how yours went
 

texin

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I don"t use any root hormones straight in to a bubble tote roots in 7 to 14 days
 

kronus935

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I personally like efficacy...yes you can use just plain water in a cloning machine and it will work fine. But if you took that same bubble tote and put willow water in it instead of just plain water it will root faster and be more efficacant. I wont hurt it or do anything other than aid in healthy development of root mass and we all know bigger roots equal bigger "fruits".
 

kronus935

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heard something about using cinnamon.
Cinnamon will burn anything it touches like leaves and roots. You would use cinnamon sprinkled on your soil surface if you have a fungus gnat problem they die within minutes but it must be real cinnamon. What they sell in regular grocery markets usually is not yes it looks and tastes like cinnamon but it is not real kinda like comparing mrs butterworth to real maple syrup both look and taste similar but one is all natural maple and the other is corn syrup. If you have gnats use it on top of your soil lightly and the gnats will dissapear in about two weeks.
 

sullivan666

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  • "I was following a cloning method suggested byClackamasCootz which is as follows:

    Mix 1 gal h2o with 1oz ful-power (fulvic acid), 2oz aloe, 1tsp potassium silicate. Soak your cuts in this mix for a few hours. Soak your rapidrooters (or another medium) in this mix for a few hours as well. When you get around to it, combine the plugs and cuts however you so choose and place them in your trays or whatever you use."

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brimck325

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you say pour boiling water over n let sit overnight, than put sticks in container and cover with tap water. what do i do with first container of the boiling water, mix with new water or throw away?
 

kronus935

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A miscomunication sorry boil tap water after boiled let cool a lil bit then add willow sticks and let soak over night
 

kronus935

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  • "I was following a cloning method suggested byClackamasCootz which is as follows:

    Mix 1 gal h2o with 1oz ful-power (fulvic acid), 2oz aloe, 1tsp potassium silicate. Soak your cuts in this mix for a few hours. Soak your rapidrooters (or another medium) in this mix for a few hours as well. When you get around to it, combine the plugs and cuts however you so choose and place them in your trays or whatever you use."

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I am sure it works extemely well but it still is more along the lines of processed the fulvic acid and potassium silicate also i dont think that is 100 % organic .... when you can find the nearest willow tree break some new growth branches and put them in boiled water and soak over night and the best part it is free..minus the stove to boil the water and the water it self...you always could just use ro water or distilled if and just lightly heat it up instead of boiling tap water
 

sullivan666

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I am sure it works extemely well but it still is more along the lines of processed the fulvic acid and potassium silicate also i dont think that is 100 % organic .... when you can find the nearest willow tree break some new growth branches and put them in boiled water and soak over night and the best part it is free..minus the stove to boil the water and the water it self...you always could just use ro water or distilled if and just lightly heat it up instead of boiling tap water
You don't have to use the above method, it is just the one plan to use per the results of Cann's clones. You can use just fresh aloe gel and get roots.
 

tlranger

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can I just put the willow cuttings in the cloner reservoir, first 2days then remove?

found answer, back in tread, thank you much for info. mother nature appreciates all the help.
 

waktoo

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I found this recipe not too long ago, have yet to try it...

1T Organic Honey (preferably non-filtered)
1/2t Organic Aloe Vera Juice
Pinch of powdered kelp meal
 
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