How to breed autoflowering trait into plants

pmumbry

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I did a seed run on some short stuff snow ryder seeds, and 40% of them did not autoflower.

So to make future seed breed true to the autoflowering gene do I just mate the ones that did autoflower together and keep doing this generation after generation? This makes sense to me, as it is the only thing i can think to do without having to order more seeds.

If my idea is indeed what i need to do to make them all eventually autoflower, about how many generations do you think it would take to get them all autoflowering?
 

pmumbry

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thanks nizza, so i should have saved some of the pollen from one of the auto males and use that to pollinate its children, then again with its grandchildren, then once again with its great grandchildren. This is what i gather from reading that link. I did not save any pollen, so i will do another run and select one of the males that autos to be the father of my 3 generations and save its pollen to do the cubing with.
 

Nizza

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the pollen from the 3rd inbred male breed back to the mother should give you seeds that are "cubed".. or maybe the 2nd makes it cubed?
 

friendlyperson92

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your idea of just breeding hte autoflowerers with eachother is the best way. that's what produces f1s f2s f3s. which are pretty much generations where the traits you want are more dominant.
 

Jogro

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So to make future seed breed true to the autoflowering gene do I just mate the ones that did autoflower together and keep doing this generation after generation? This makes sense to me, as it is the only thing i can think to do without having to order more seeds. If my idea is indeed what i need to do to make them all eventually autoflower, about how many generations do you think it would take to get them all autoflowering?
If you breed two true autoflowering plants of the same line together, believe it or not, in your FIRST generation cross (ie the "F1") virtually all of the offspring "should" be autoflowering. It will definitely be true after several generations of these sorts of incrosses.

Note that if you are doing this sort of breeding, PLEASE do more selection than "just" keeping the ones that are autoflowering. Retain only the plants that have the best yield, growth pattern, potency (if you can judge that) and aromas too, otherwise the line you create will be enriched for mediocrity.

For what its worth "squaring" and "cubing" are just fancy ways of saying second and third generation backcrosses. In other words, this is what you call it when you repeatedly cross a plant's offspring back to itself. You can do this either using male pollen, or with female clones.
 

pmumbry

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If you breed two true autoflowering plants of the same line together, believe it or not, in your FIRST generation cross (ie the "F1") virtually all of the offspring "should" be autoflowering. It will definitely be true after several generations of these sorts of incrosses.

Note that if you are doing this sort of breeding, PLEASE do more selection than "just" keeping the ones that are autoflowering. Retain only the plants that have the best yield, growth pattern, potency (if you can judge that) and aromas too, otherwise the line you create will be enriched for mediocrity.

For what its worth "squaring" and "cubing" are just fancy ways of saying second and third generation backcrosses. In other words, this is what you call it when you repeatedly cross a plant's offspring back to itself. You can do this either using male pollen, or with female clones.
thanks for the info, i was afraid i would have to wait several generations before i would have fully autoflowering seeds.
 
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