How screwed is my friend?

cackpircings

cackpircings

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Anyone that has lost someone close to them in drunken driving accidents know it is the most heart braking thing so I fill no pity for your friend and his kid like negligence. I do however feel pity for the girl who had no say and how she was going to die that night.:arrow: just makes my day bad now I need to just smoke a shit load of weed to forget
 
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korvette1977

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A prayer for the senseless loss of a human life ..................... Whatever he gets Im sure the girls parents will never recover... All involved should go to jail.
 
Florida Girl

Florida Girl

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genfranco said:
Hell I have daughters and i understand about someones daughter is dead because of these idiots racing... But this daughter was freakin 20 yrs old... she aint 16 or 17... 20 im thinking not her first race.... 2 she controls the pussy... all she had to say to that guy was dont do this and the guy wouldnt have raced..(he wants the pussy)
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First off... it wasn't HER race... it was HIS. Secondly, this was their first date.... you think a drunk man is going to listen to a girl saying slow down? You better think again. Hell I used to get so mad at my ex b/f who was a notorious speeding tailgater. I would literally SCREAM at him to slow down and back off.... he wouldn't listen and we'd get in a huge fight. One day I got so pissed that when he finally slowed down I jumped out and told him to FUCK OFF I'd rather call a cab then ride with him ever again. We got over that and he stopped that behavior when I was in the truck.... but it took a long time and a lot of fighting to get him to change.

This poor girl never stood a chance. Her only bad decisions that night were A) her choice of dates and B) getting in the car with him when he was drunk.

Again, this was NOT a random "accident" .... this was totally avoidable and the pair of them are responsible for her death... plain and simple... cut and dry.

 
Louis541

Louis541

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cackpircings said:
BULL shit that some meat headed mother fucker thinks he can just go drive drunk and kill the person that probably didn’t even want him speeding bull shit for sure.
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I'd like to know how you knew what the girl that died wanted. I'm assuming that because the dude liked to race, he had a nice ride. Probably a tuner. If she didn't want to race why did she even get into a racers' car? It is very tragic that a girl is dead. That doesn't mean she was innocent though.
 
cackpircings

cackpircings

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Louis541 said:
I'd like to know how you knew what the girl that died wanted. I'm assuming that because the dude liked to race, he had a nice ride. Probably a tuner. If she didn't want to race why did she even get into a racers' car? It is very tragic that a girl is dead. That doesn't mean she was innocent though.
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However what I said was pure assumption, I’m just saying that most of us that have been put into that situation and didn’t want to be are maybe a little embarrassed to say anything… ether way I still feel for the poor young lady.
 
Florida Girl

Florida Girl

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Louis541 said:
I'd like to know how you knew what the girl that died wanted. I'm assuming that because the dude liked to race, he had a nice ride. Probably a tuner. If she didn't want to race why did she even get into a racers' car? It is very tragic that a girl is dead. That doesn't mean she was innocent though.
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Shame on you Louis... that's like saying a woman who likes to wear short skirts shares the guilt if she is raped. :(

The girl is the ONLY innocent one in this story.
 
cackpircings

cackpircings

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This isn’t in affect to toot my own horn or to turn face to the situation, but if you have ever been close to dying and survive you gain a whole new respect for every last waking moment in your life... I don’t know if this girl had the emotion before she was tragically killed but one would hope. Well at least I do.
 
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korvette1977

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Florida Girl said:
Shame on you Louis... that's like saying a woman who likes to wear short skirts shares the guilt if she is raped. :(

The girl is the ONLY innocent one in this story.
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Ouch.. Im stepping back , and will watch this one from the back room.. I feel some tension building................................

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cackpircings

cackpircings

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korvette1977 said:
Ouch.. Im stepping back , and will watch this one from the back room.. I feel some tension building................................

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Well if you think about it dude, we fight so hard for a common reason (legalization of MJ) you never hear that some dude got all stoned with his friends and wrecked the car killing them. Alcohol on the other and… I mean fuck dude.:weed: you know
 
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Dirty Harry

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Louis541 said:
When he left was his friend in the car, or did his friend get yanked out?
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The friend was still in the pickup...The person causing the assault clinged to the vehicle while it was in motion...for awhile.
I was selected for the jury pool before being removed since I knew on of the lawyers. What little I got to know before I got the boot was it was border line a "scared teen" fleeing to save himself/friend and not knowing there was a injury and something else I was not privy to as I was removed.
 
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Cannabox

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i don't think you can get in trouble for calling the cops for someone, so they get some help, then leaving. i think your allowed to drive by an accident and call the police for them and never stop, and never get in trouble for the accident. if you did get in trouble for trying to help someone like that, then noone is ever going to call help for anyone ever.

all he has to do is deny that he was racing him, that his friend took off fast, then he was flipped over when he got to him and called the police. his friend WAS drunk, so he obviously didn't know what was going on. he might have THOUGHT that i was racing him, but he was racing himself to the grave.

actually if you DON'T call the police for someone to get help when you see them in trouble, in some states, is ILLEGAL.

but the fact is that HE was driving fast and HE flipped the car. HE had a choice, drive fast and risk it, or not. that's just that simple. he basically is getting his friend in trouble to pass the blame, which is just plain evil and straight up betrayal.
 
theotherc

theotherc

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Is your friend Nick Hogan?

SO I knew this one guy actually knew, not a friend of a friend etc... He and his buddy decided to play chicken. Needless to say, neither moved. He killed his friend. (this was all sober)... He was tried for most of the same charges, vehicular-manslaughter, etc... He got out of it with a ankle bracelet and several years of prob. As fucked up as it is, he still was a willing party to what caused the accident racing and drinking... We all have (most have drove drunk atleast once, and realized it's a stupid mistake.
 
Florida Girl

Florida Girl

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Cannabox said:
i don't think you can get in trouble for calling the cops for someone, so they get some help, then leaving. i think your allowed to drive by an accident and call the police for them and never stop, and never get in trouble for the accident.
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Cannabox said:
but the fact is that HE was driving fast and HE flipped the car. HE had a choice, drive fast and risk it, or not. that's just that simple. he basically is getting his friend in trouble to pass the blame, which is just plain evil and straight up betrayal.
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You are trying to change the FACTS of the story to say he wasn't involved. It doesn't matter how you spin it... the FACT is he WAS involved. He was drunk, he raced and he contributed to the death of the woman.

Both men are responsible... it is THAT simple ;)
 
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Dirty Harry

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I have no problem saying it as I see it. Your friend participated in something that caused a death. If he did not participate, the race would not of happened, and the death would not of happened. To be honest, I could care less if your friend would of been stone sober. Everyone is at fault and all drivers should be responsible in some part for the death. The surviving passenger can also be partly responsible if there was no attempt to stop the event (turn off the key, pull into neutral).
Sorry...They all fucked up and everyone needs to be responsible for their actions. Be damn lucky no one else got hit or killed due to that race.
 
genfranco

genfranco

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Hey Fl girl... Im not sure why you insist on stating that it was never the girls fault either... I say it was all of their fault for racing period. You dont know that she didnt want to race... i dont know that she did... but what i do know is that when i jump into a little racer car (and it seems that they were) that this guy/girl is wanting to race whenever he can... if i donot want to participate i simply tell them not to or ill kick the living shit out of them... this girl had a choice im thinking... like i said she was 20... they All deserve to get what they got... imagine that instead of flipping and her dying, that they plowed into my family suburban killing my wife and children.... Me i would want all of them dead.. no matter who was driving and no matter who was in the car... hell i might want to destroy whoever made those people that were racing just for rasing them... We all can have diferences in how we see it ... but this poor ol girl thing i just dont buy it....

racing is waay diferent than rape.
 
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Cannabox

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Florida Girl said:
You are trying to change the FACTS of the story to say he wasn't involved. It doesn't matter how you spin it... the FACT is he WAS involved. He was drunk, he raced and he contributed to the death of the woman.

Both men are responsible... it is THAT simple ;)
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not really, because that would make everyone responsible for everything. a driver in the nascar 500 dies in the race, all drivers get manslaughter?

your basically liberally interpretting the situation to fit your emotional needs.
cause we can keep goin and say blame the car manufacturer for allowing cars to go fast enough to flip and die.
we can go even farther than that and goto the DMV for allowing someone that hasn't been screened for mental instabillities to drive.
we can keep goin and place blame on others instead of taking personal responsibility.
 
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