How Much Usable Product Can I Have?
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plantmagic
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Do not quote me on this but I believe that the law states that any patient with a card from another state has the same protections in Arizona as Arizona patients except the ability to go to a dispensary as long as that same privilege is extended to an Arizona patient when they are in Montana. i believe there is also a time period limit of around 4 weeks. if all of the above are true than you are allowed to keep 2.5 oz every two weeks on yourself.
boneheadbob
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You are allowed to buy 2.5 OZ from the disp every two weeks, so I suspect you can always be in possesion of 2.5 OZ.
However if you grow and harvest a plant or three you will have a problem. I do not know if they use wet weight or wait till it drys.
Lots of questions
However if you grow and harvest a plant or three you will have a problem. I do not know if they use wet weight or wait till it drys.
Lots of questions
plantmagic
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when looking at the 2.5oz it also states that you are allowed a sufficient quantity to ensure an uninterrupted supply of medication if you are a grower. I would believe this has more to do with your home location and if you get pulled over with a half pound on you it will be hard to explain; however If I am a grower and I should be able to have enough on hand that if I lose a crop I will have sufficient medication to last until I get a new crop harvested.
MasterS
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To correct the information above. You are not allowed to purchase from a dispensary if they were available. A patient is legally allowed 2.5 oz of usable cannabis. Not legal to smoke in public locations. Legally allowed to purchase from other patients as long as you don't exceed the 2.5 oz of course. In the case of edibles, only the weight of the plant used (meaning the weight of non cannabis products are not included in the weight) will count towards the 2.5 oz. Hash is by weight to count towards 2.5oz.
Ignore everything the Gilbert police have said, they are not competent enough to comprehend the law that has been enacted by the state, voted for by the citizens. We are not a police state, how dare the Gilbert police rise above the law.
Ignore everything the Gilbert police have said, they are not competent enough to comprehend the law that has been enacted by the state, voted for by the citizens. We are not a police state, how dare the Gilbert police rise above the law.
AZKING
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big time u tell them man..... I think they are becoming worse then arpio
MasterS
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boneheadbob
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I think there are loopholes in the law by design. My money says you go to jail if you get caught with two oz of hash, probaly for less. There is also no clear rule about how much a grower can have. I can harvest 4 to 6 plants and get a pound or more.
Then say I smoke a few oz's while waiting for my next harvest and still have 10 or 12 oz's leftover. Before you know it a grower could have close to two pounds and another harvest on the way.
I dont think Sheriff Joe will be very happy when he visits the bonehead residence and bob is stoned and smiling because he has more cannabis then Scarface and a ticket to cultivate.
MasterS
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The law states it is useable marijuana by weight. They cannot prosecute 2oz of hash more than 2 oz of cured cannabis. Also when it comes to food it is the weight of the cannabis in the plant, not the non-cannabis ingredients. There are loopholes but there are also guidelines that cannot be ignored.
The reason they added that patients can legally sell excess medicine to other patients in the last revision was to prevent what you are suggesting boneheadbob.
The reason they added that patients can legally sell excess medicine to other patients in the last revision was to prevent what you are suggesting boneheadbob.
ayenull
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From what I have read, I have the same understanding MS.
@ BHB, if you have a problem with too much usuable hashish, I am sure one of my patients would be willing to help you out
DesertSativa
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Wait, I was under the impression that it was still illegal to sell any medicine to anyone and you are not even allowed to give medicine away. I called ADHS and that is what they said.
MasterS
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It is illegal to sell marijuana. Patients may pass it along to another patient but generally a 'donation' is expected. You are legally allowed to obtain medicine from another patient.
QP30: Where can I legally obtain marijuana if I am a qualifying patient?
Qualifying patients can obtain medical marijuana from a dispensary, the qualifying patient's designated caregiver, another qualifying patient, or, if authorized to cultivate, from home cultivation.
QP30: Where can I legally obtain marijuana if I am a qualifying patient?
Qualifying patients can obtain medical marijuana from a dispensary, the qualifying patient's designated caregiver, another qualifying patient, or, if authorized to cultivate, from home cultivation.
boneheadbob
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I disagree about the hash. If I can have 2.5 oz of hash on me then I can have 2.5 oz of hash oil as well.
I also disagree that patients can sell/give their excess cannabis to other patients.
Theres is of course a possibility I am wrong but I want to see it in writing on the gov.con website.
I would advice anyone reading this to research the law before taking your advise.
MasterS
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@boneheadbob, you really are a bonehead aren't you? Here is a link, oh mah gosh a .gov ^_^ It's amazing. If you are unable to properly interpret the letter of the law please don't post on a forum with literate people. Not to mention if you never actually took the time to study the law and interpretations you are officially a troll. I've gone to a patient collective here in the valley and provided proof that a certain 'rule' they were following wasn't legal and guess what they changed their policy.
There is nothing to disagree with, the law is worded to include hash which is part of the plant that is included in usable marijuana. I also posted where on their site in their FAQ that is says patients can legally obtain marijuana from other patients. The fact that you disagree with something not only in the law but is included in their FAQ makes me think you are an arrogant troll and kindly fuck off.
I do not post on this forum anymore because I have found much better ones. I only come here to answer Arizona specific questions for people who need clarification.
When I am wrong I back off and go, oh shit, I'm sorry. You won't do that, you have some sort of aggrandized pride I'm assuming but if you are able to effectively add to a discussion please do so.
http://www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana/rules/index.htm
36-2801. Definitions
(Caution: 1998 Prop. 105 applies)
In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires:
1. "Allowable amount of marijuana"
(a) With respect to a qualifying patient, the "allowable amount of marijuana" means:
(i) Two-and-one-half ounces of usable marijuana; and
(ii) If the qualifying patient's registry identification card states that the qualifying patient is authorized to cultivate marijuana, twelve marijuana plants contained in an enclosed, locked facility except that the plants are not required to be in an enclosed, locked facility if the plants are being transported because the qualifying patient is moving.
15. "Usable marijuana" means the dried flowers of the marijuana plant, and any mixture or preparation thereof, but does not include the seeds, stalks and roots of the plant and does not include the weight of any non-marijuana ingredients combined with marijuana and prepared for consumption as food or drink.
There is nothing to disagree with, the law is worded to include hash which is part of the plant that is included in usable marijuana. I also posted where on their site in their FAQ that is says patients can legally obtain marijuana from other patients. The fact that you disagree with something not only in the law but is included in their FAQ makes me think you are an arrogant troll and kindly fuck off.
I do not post on this forum anymore because I have found much better ones. I only come here to answer Arizona specific questions for people who need clarification.
When I am wrong I back off and go, oh shit, I'm sorry. You won't do that, you have some sort of aggrandized pride I'm assuming but if you are able to effectively add to a discussion please do so.
http://www.azdhs.gov/medicalmarijuana/rules/index.htm
36-2801. Definitions
(Caution: 1998 Prop. 105 applies)
In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires:
1. "Allowable amount of marijuana"
(a) With respect to a qualifying patient, the "allowable amount of marijuana" means:
(i) Two-and-one-half ounces of usable marijuana; and
(ii) If the qualifying patient's registry identification card states that the qualifying patient is authorized to cultivate marijuana, twelve marijuana plants contained in an enclosed, locked facility except that the plants are not required to be in an enclosed, locked facility if the plants are being transported because the qualifying patient is moving.
15. "Usable marijuana" means the dried flowers of the marijuana plant, and any mixture or preparation thereof, but does not include the seeds, stalks and roots of the plant and does not include the weight of any non-marijuana ingredients combined with marijuana and prepared for consumption as food or drink.
boneheadbob
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Wow I politely disagreed with you. I did not call you names or tell you you are a idiot.
I clearly stated from the beginning that I feel cops will interpt the law different and I believe you will go to jail if they catch you with 2 oz hash. I still dont believe you can sell cannabis to other patients.
Why on earth are you so upset? You should smoke some pot and chill. You are probaly upset because your dreams of being a caretaker on easy street fell apart now that we can all grow.
Face it, there will never be any disps in AZ and your homegrown is worth a buck fifty an oz not three fifty.
Say the word and I will put you on my prayer list
I clearly stated from the beginning that I feel cops will interpt the law different and I believe you will go to jail if they catch you with 2 oz hash. I still dont believe you can sell cannabis to other patients.
Why on earth are you so upset? You should smoke some pot and chill. You are probaly upset because your dreams of being a caretaker on easy street fell apart now that we can all grow.
Face it, there will never be any disps in AZ and your homegrown is worth a buck fifty an oz not three fifty.
Say the word and I will put you on my prayer list
boneheadbob
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If I was looking for a caretaker, I would look for someone who is laid back and mellow.
High strung assholes put out bad vibes and cannabis plants pick up on it.
High strung assholes put out bad vibes and cannabis plants pick up on it.
MasterS
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I reacted in such a fashion because people like you post information that isn't accurate. I do not smoke pot nor would I want to. I am already a caregiver for my limit of 5 patients, not a caretaker which is silly. My 'dreams' didn't fall apart I already have a full time career this is a part time opportunity to help people. I provide people with not only cheap product but instruct many people on how to provide for themselves. I have stated many times I am not in this for the money. Cops can't 'interpret' it how they want because it is already worded in a fashion that supports my conclusion and they would lose any case if brought to court. Prayer list? Ah, that makes sense. Especially when you follow it up with some bull comment about how "bad vibes" get picked up by plants. Learn biology please and quit pushing intelligent design in schools, it is quite sad.
boneheadbob
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I think there are loopholes in the law by design. My money says you go to jail if you get caught with two oz of hash, probaly for less. There is also no clear rule about how much a grower can have. I can harvest 4 to 6 plants and get a pound or more.
Then say I smoke a few oz's while waiting for my next harvest and still have 10 or 12 oz's leftover. Before you know it a grower could have close to two pounds and another harvest on the way.
I dont think Sheriff Joe will be very happy when he visits the bonehead residence and bob is stoned and smiling because he has more cannabis then Scarface and a ticket to cultivate.
I reposted since you still have not understood what I said. The law is ambivilent on purpose.
It does not matter what you think the law says. Cops can and probaly will take you to jail if they catch you with a pound of weed, even if it is stuff you grew while legal, even if its in your home. Cops can and probaly will take you to jail if they catch you with an oz or two of hash. The law is new and cops have not taken all this stuff to court yet. Its all common sense and it is my opinion.
You can call me names and scream that I am wrong but all it proves is you are an immature dickhead who is not wise enough to know he is not wise. By the way, I highly doubt you have a job, let alone a succesful one. Anyone with a successful career would not be online at at a cannabis forum asking for patients. Growing 60 plants is very hard to do part time. My original remarks about you being angry over easy street failure still stands. and in closing you are welcome to the last word. I ignored your smart ass remarks at first and I will ignore them after this.
PS The prayer list was sarcasm, I still cant believe you swallowed that hook with an antiGod remark. You need to let go of all that anger over God and easy street before it ruins your life.
Will you two get a room already 
hiluxphantom
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lol very funny but none of this is about az growing at all id just ignore it if i were u just keep as much weed as you want n just bring an 1/4 oz with u for the day so u got some extra i mean how likely is it that the police gonna raid ur house unless someone finds out u got bud wich is pretyty unlikely if u follow the information around the site