How much LED light do I need?

blah blah blah, I'm a senile old man, blah blah blah...

PetFlora said:

When 100w compares to 160w, what's not 'bettering' about that?

Your recollection, is not exactly true. How am I supposed to thank you when you trashed my emails, and failed to return numerous telephone messages? Also, anyone who follows led threads can attest to how many times I have given you props for sending them > 50, including several other gro sites, and how many times I recommended A51 in spite of you not responding. Why? You were the only mid-priced led light designed with mj growers in mind. That ship has sailed.

Amare reached out to me after following my BML thread

BML reached out to me in MARCH, a long time from our November conversations/promise, and no, my recollection is you never said 'considering', and now you're waffling on YOUR challenge to provide your new model against Amare Techs model. That's in black and white right here, so, I'll leave it to others (beside your bitch Yoda) to determine who is telling the truth.

but we digress from the threads OP

I will say no more about this

And for anyone still following along, think abut this, what is a manufacturer doing posting in this thread?

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PetFlora said:

think abut this, what is a manufacturer doing posting in this thread?

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When I google for Amare Tech the only results are your posts to multiple sites exclaiming it's virtues. Not even a product web site. I hope Amare proves to be a good light. Competition is good. But, your hawking of Amare seems about the same as Jeff posting here. At least he sticks with one light and one site. He doesn't rush into unrealistic expectations about "the light I've been waiting for" only to abandon it for not being everything he told everyone it was (before he knew).

I'm glad Jeff's back. I learned a lot reading his older posts. From what I've seen he stops posting because the poo-flinging contests are unproductive uses of his time. I hope he can resist the temptation to engage in those contests and keep his time productive without having to leave again.

az2000 said:

When I google for Amare Tech the only results are your posts to multiple sites exclaiming it's virtues. Not even a product web site. I hope Amare proves to be a good light. Competition is good. But, your hawking of Amare seems about the same as Jeff posting here. At least he sticks with one light and one site. He doesn't rush into unrealistic expectations about "the light I've been waiting for" only to abandon it for not being everything he told everyone it was (before he knew).

I'm glad Jeff's back. I learned a lot reading his older posts. From what I've seen he stops posting because the poo-flinging contests are unproductive uses of his time. I hope he can resist the temptation to engage in those contests and keep his time productive without having to leave again.

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The site will be up in a month

Part of an email I received yesterday after asking about the site

Me: Any idea when the website will be up? Are you waiting for the shipment first?

Them: Very soon, yes, among other final pre-launch details. Our stock shipment's shipped via sea-freight so it takes about a month before we receive it out of customs due to bulk shipment.

Our flagship model and the featured model for our company's launch. The website will go live right after you and Pet day-view it.

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lol petflora you should mail those freebie ufos back

@ original post, 50w/sqft

dbkick said:

Yo is this the thread where you get cool new free stuff that outgrows your old stuff you paid a fuckton for????

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LOL! Almost spit my drink on that, nice db lol. Yea I just bought the "old" sgs-160 and it seems to be working fine. A sheeeeet ton better than that illumitex.

Eraserhead, IMHO, you should not argue with people who will drag you down to their level, and then beat you with experience. If your the person behind A51, then thank you, your product seems to work, where a few of the others manufacturers didn't.

Petflora, to some of us, this isn't just a hobby, it's a way of medicating, recreating, and meditating, all extremely important parts of our human experience we call life.

Eraserhead said:

I get another email that was nothing short of rude, it was a long scathing email, is his fancy blue text, on how we weren't coming through on those 2 free UFOs.

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I know gawking is frowned upon but .. FLOL! The part about his "fancy blue text" is priceless and so dead on.

Haha good times.

I don't think pet is coming back on here. He got some threatening emails warning him not to post on any forum or the police would be sent to his house. with very specific details.

could we perhaps make a sticky of this thread.. cause id like to know if my two cxas at 2.1 amps each is enough for my 2x4 tent or should i be adding cfls to supplement

PetFlora said:

What Abiqua said

I'm going to be starting a thread soon based on 2 x 150w (actual) Hi-Intensity Amare Technologies Solar Spec led panels

Hyroot has a mutli-panel grow in a large tent

He states in a YT video he just posted that a single 100w Amare is bettering a 160w A-51

confirming what Abiqua stated

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already starting a thread on 2x180w leds

Smokenpassout said:

How much Led wattage would I need to fully illuminate two healthy girls, in 3 gallon buckets, vegged a month? I have about 300 watts. My space is a 2X2.5 grow tent.

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check this out 2x180w leds https://www.rollitup.org/t/2x180w-led-grow.848338/#post-11003622

hyroot said:

I don't think pet is coming back on here. He got some threatening emails warning him not to post on any forum or the police would be sent to his house. with very specific details.

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That's a serious implication. What (or who) is being implied?

"Was this some sort of sicko joke? why would you send such a disturbing email, and to my comcast email no less?"

This was his last post. It was to Rollie's profile page.

This is pf we are talking about. Sure it is not a load of BS.

Speak up Pet we can't hear ya. Chickens come home to roost finally? BML ninjas? Amare from Orlando put that hit out on ya finally? Rollie thinks you owe him cash for all your commercial activities? Spill them beans!

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I don't think pet is coming back on here. He got some threatening emails warning him not to post on any forum or the police would be sent to his house. with very specific details.

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That's dirty, I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy.

Yodaweed said:

That's dirty, I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy.

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Same, especially considering the nature of us all being on a forum such as this.

FranJan said:

This was his last post. It was to Rollie's profile page.

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Thanks. Hyroot's post seemed to imply it was EH (within the context of this thread, Pet and EH arguing, the only person with motive would be EH.). I wanted to clear that up one way or the other.

Trying to understand who else would have motive to threaten pet with grassing out. I can see BML or Amare regretting their involvement, that their names will be associated with ongoing drama. What would be Rollie's motivation?

Honestly, my first thought was Cammie McKenzie (HydroGrowLED) did it. She has a lengthy reputation for threatening problematic customers with "grassing out" to the cops. She's tried to diminish her reputation by claiming it was just one customer who tried to stop payment on an order. I could see how she could be reading along and see an opportunity to minimize her own reputation by making it appear another light seller did the same thing. Her thread on RIU using a pseudonym to bash Baesheng LED (<<link) shows I'm not entirely delusional.

My second thought was that Pet made it up as one last jab at EH. To plant a lingering seed of doubt.

I'm curious what motivation others would have if EH wasn't implied.

I'm sort of glad that I'm totally fucking clueless on what your all discoursing about.

I followed your link az2000 ... the injustice . . .

And your point about "distributors" or "manufacturers" threatening customers by calling cops is something I've never considered as a possibility but that shit could and probably has happened.

^^^My take is I think it's more he's bitten the hand that feeds him too much around here. I've been on threads that Pet would pop into and start his spamming. Start talking about himself and whomever he's plugging this week and I've reported him for spamming myself at least twice. He's got terrible forum manners and is always thread jacking and of course his condescending bullshit which is very annoying to lots of people, not just me. Something tells me if you piss off the wrong people around here and do it constantly the complaints finally add up enough for the upper hierarchy to get involved, (unless your one of the untouchable know-it-alls in the Politics section). He's not banned it seems, he signed in today, and he posted some grow info on other forums. Maybe he's worn out his welcome around here. I remember when I first started coming here and feeling sorry for him for people shitting all over him but once you figure PF out a bit you see why the abuse comes. I remember me and a couple of other people tried to help him out and he shit all over us.
Still it's all speculation on my part so. Maybe if he realized he ain't the fucking king he thinks he is and started having some semblance of respect for others and their ideas things would change for him around here. I for one hope he never comes back again.

Idk I don't listen to any reviews as far a brand name lights, because everyone has an opinion and motive. The American mad unit are all pretty comparable.