How many would like to see Obama's dental records?

mr2shim

mr2shim

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kelly4 said:
Thank you, I appreciate that. I was starting to think you didn't like me. LOL!
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I don't have problem with anyone here. It's the way of thinking and ability to avoid logic and reason to defend your beliefs, even if they are wrong. That's what I have a problem with. It's destructive to yourself and destructive to our nation.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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mr2shim said:
I don't have problem with anyone here. It's the way of thinking and ability to avoid logic and reason to defend your beliefs, even if they are wrong. That's what I have a problem with. It's destructive to yourself and destructive to our nation.
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Comedy gold!!!
 
kelly4

kelly4

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mr2shim said:
I don't have problem with anyone here. It's the way of thinking and ability to avoid logic and reason to defend your beliefs, even if they are wrong. That's what I have a problem with. It's destructive to yourself and destructive to our nation.
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My way is more fun for me, though.

I don't know where you suddenly popped up from, but I don't think you have any clue what I stand for or who I'm even voting for.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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kelly4 said:
My way is more fun for me, though.

I don't know where you suddenly popped up from, but I don't think you have any clue what I stand for or who I'm even voting for.
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You're right, and I'm pretty sure I don't care. It's my personality, I always leave a lasting impression on people, be it they hate my guts or they think I'm awesome.
 
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beenthere

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canndo said:
Beenthere, are you stuck in the same circular arguments?

No canndo that is you my friend, in fact you sound like a parrot at times.
No, Romney is not in violation of current IRS law - we ALL stipulate this.

Yes, every citizen can, and should pay the minimum tax possible - we all stipulate to this as well.

Now, how about an answer - if we were awarded Romney's tax returns for 10 years and we found that he paid 0 taxes in three of them and under 10 percent in the rest, would we have an argument for why Romney shouldn't be made the arbiter of tax policy?
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Hell no you wouldn't have an argument, you justified it by admitting every citizen can and should pay the minimum tax allowable! I say it would be a good argument for making him the arbiter on tax policy.
 
canndo

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beenthere said:
Hell no you wouldn't have an argument, you justified it by admitting every citizen can and should pay the minimum tax allowable! I say it would be a good argument for making him the arbiter on tax policy.
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A guy who makes millions of dollars a year should not have to pay in percentages, as much as a guy who works 60 hours a week at his job, that is what you are saying. You are saying that if a millionare can pay for tax dodges, can pay for extraordinary deductions and also pay an accountant to find the least little loophole, he should be entitled to that while the guy who just managed to get along has to pay more.

You are saying that we want a man in office who believes that his money is better placed offshore where it helps no one get a job and he should be rewarded for that by incurring a smaller tax burden than the guy who makes far less. You are claiming that this guy, someone who thinks that taxes are a game should be put in a position to help his peers avoid having to bear the burden of our national debt while the other guys should pay more. You are saying fuck everything and everyone, all that matters in this country is the amount of money one can make and keep. To hell with anyone who needs assistance, to hell with anyone who needs the infrastructure, the help, the society in which he is raised. You are saying that money and avoidance of taxes is all there is to being an American.

Or am I wrong.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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mr2shim said:
The guy you are voting for has millions upon millions of money in the Cayman Islands to avoid taxes, but I guess it's ok since he's a conservative. Don't let a democrat do it. He'll be crucified.
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beenthere said:
Hell no you wouldn't have an argument, you justified it by admitting every citizen can and should pay the minimum tax allowable! I say it would be a good argument for making him the arbiter on tax policy.
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Are you going to pull a typical and completely avoid this post?
 
desert dude

desert dude

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canndo said:
A guy who makes millions of dollars a year should not have to pay in percentages, as much as a guy who works 60 hours a week at his job, that is what you are saying. You are saying that if a millionare can pay for tax dodges, can pay for extraordinary deductions and also pay an accountant to find the least little loophole, he should be entitled to that while the guy who just managed to get along has to pay more.

You are saying that we want a man in office who believes that his money is better placed offshore where it helps no one get a job and he should be rewarded for that by incurring a smaller tax burden than the guy who makes far less. You are claiming that this guy, someone who thinks that taxes are a game should be put in a position to help his peers avoid having to bear the burden of our national debt while the other guys should pay more. You are saying fuck everything and everyone, all that matters in this country is the amount of money one can make and keep. To hell with anyone who needs assistance, to hell with anyone who needs the infrastructure, the help, the society in which he is raised. You are saying that money and avoidance of taxes is all there is to being an American.

Or am I wrong.
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Your two long paragraphs are pretty good description of the federal tax code. If you think Obama is going to fix the tax code you're a dreamer.

A simple flat tax on income above $40,000, indexed for future inflation, with no deductions would fix it... maybe.
 
abandonconflict

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desert dude said:
Your two long paragraphs are pretty good description of the federal tax code. If you think Obama is going to fix the tax code you're a dreamer.

A simple flat tax on income above $40,000, indexed for future inflation, with no deductions would fix it... maybe.
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they sound more like the carelessly self centered philosophy of the right "get what I can for me and fuck everyone else who can't get theirs"
 
Grandpapy

Grandpapy

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desert dude said:
Your two long paragraphs are pretty good description of the federal tax code. If you think Obama is going to fix the tax code you're a dreamer.

A simple flat tax on income above $40,000, indexed for future inflation, with no deductions would fix it... maybe.
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What about us that can only dream of $40,000yr how much do we pay?
 
desert dude

desert dude

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abandonconflict said:
they sound more like the carelessly self centered philosophy of the right "get what I can for me and fuck everyone else who can't get theirs"
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The tax code did not write itself. Democrats controlled congress for forty years before the Republican surge starting in the mid nineties. The tax code is more a Democratic creation than a Republican creation. Face it, the Democrats and the Republicans pulled a train on you.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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mr2shim said:
While we're at it why not just get his colonoscopy records
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Reminds me of Reagan's colonoscopy. The news carried it for several days, with diagrams of polyps and why colonoscopies are important for older people. By all means, let's stick a camera up Obama's ass to see if there is a map of Kenya up there.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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desert dude said:
The tax code did not write itself. Democrats controlled congress for forty years before the Republican surge starting in the mid nineties. The tax code is more a Democratic creation than a Republican creation. Face it, the Democrats and the Republicans pulled a train on you.
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it has been the conservatives opposed to the New Deal
 
desert dude

desert dude

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ChesusRice said:
QUick NAME ONE FLAT TAX PROPOSAL BY A REPUBLICAN THAT INCLUDES CAPITAL GAINS TAXED AT THE SAME RATE AS INCOME OR AT ALL
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One of the complaints that is heard over and over is that "companies and banks are sitting on trillions of dollars, and not using it to hire people and boost the economy". If the capital gains tax rate is increased, what effect do you think that will have on the deployment of capital by companies and banks?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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it would probably have jack and shit effect. nothing.

increased aggregate demand, the thing that righties love to forget exists but which drives a vast majority of the economy, would result in more hiring and a boost to the economy.
 
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