How many of you are going to bitch about Obama care after 2016?

desert dude said:

How many of "you" are still going to be bitching about Bush on 2016?

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Guitar Man said:

WTF is that supposed to mean?? I worked for my fucking paycheck, protecting your lazy ass from being invaded by people who live in the Dark Ages. So UB, did you serve in the Armed Forces? In case you haven't thought about it, there is a difference in WORKING for your money rather than sitting on your ass collecting money for doing NOTHING!

Now, back to ObamaIdontcare. The reason our Healthcare system is in the TANK is because of Obesity. Obesity is the number 1 Health Epidemic in this Nation, causing a massive outbreak of type 2 Diabetes, Heart Disease, Joint Failure, Depression, Cancer, and numerous other ailments that have caused our Health Insurance to go out of control in spending money for people who won't take responsibility for their actions. The Government is also feeding this frenzy by giving handouts to those who refuse to work. If you don't believe me, go to Walmart after the Welfare checks are paid out. Obesity is a plague amongst the poor, and the Democrats are responsible for feeling sorry for people who need a KICK IN THE ASS, while feeding them the diet of sugar and processed foods that are sending them strait to the doctor!

I have a good friend and client who has been a practicing physician for 25 years, and he voted for Obama. I spoke with him the other day and I boldly told him what I said above: HE AGREED WITH ME!!!!!! He fucking understood what I said, and he admitted our Nation is a FAT SLOB crying over the next ailment they have, then expecting the Government to pick up the tab when they need open heart surgery or a new knee joint because they can't walk with their extra 150 lbs!!!!

Until Obesity is brought under control, nothing can fix our Healthcare system, NOTHING! America is SICK because they won't stop stuffing their faces and they won't exercise!!! The Pharmaceutical industry is FAT with cash and the Health industry is FAT with cash, until now, and the reason is simple; the obese are on disability, can't work, have caused massive medical supply revamping (bigger beds/cranes to lift the obese/larger ambulances/more staff), and those who don't want to pay the high price of Health Insurance have op'd out of Health Plans that have become a joke. That means, the Healthy have backed away from the Insurance Pool that only the sick are using, AND, who aren't contributing to the pool.

This is why Obama is trying to strong-arm people like me to pay in, as he knows, we can survive without Health Insurance, and those are the EXACT people that insurance pools need! But FUCK IT, I'm sick and tired of paying for other people who run to the doctor every day because their bad health is the result of laziness and undisciplined eating habits! FUCK IT, I'll pay my own bills!

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Moldy said:

Healthcare is a right for all

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ginjawarrior said:

i believe that living in a country like the usa you are taking advantage of benefits that have been paid for by society

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ginjawarrior said:

that paying taxes is contributing towards your usage of it

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ginjawarrior said:

its a bit like going to the supermarket and stuffing your face while you walk down the isle yet trying to leave without paying for it

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desert dude said:

How many of "you" are still going to be bitching about Bush on 2016?

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ginjawarrior said:

your calling the usa a prison now?

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Rob Roy said:

Don't have to...self evident. USA leading the world in people imprisoned.

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ginjawarrior said:

thinking upon it i would say a restaurant is a better analogy

rob is looking for a service where he orders exactly what he wants and a chef cooks it for him

whereas the reality is closer to an all you can eat buffet you pay to be allowed to eat and choose what you want

now he might not agree with the selection of the people next to him but he gets the bits he needs

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Rob Roy said:

You use the word "service" in your example. A service is what you get when you WILLINGLY contract with another. When you say government provides a service you are ignoring it has an or else involved. So it's not really a "service" . The politest word to describe that would be an imposition rather than service. I'll just call it what it is though....extortion.

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UncleBuck said:

i'm gonna go play some golf tomorrow and then amend my blueberry/strawberry patches. what a prison

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UncleBuck said:

so why don't you just abscond to the woods already?

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Rob Roy said:

A friend of mine had cops trespass on her property and hide in her blueberry bushes till they busted her medical grow. It only cost her over $50,000 grand to ransom her house back, she's still in prison. Enjoy your golf game.

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Rob Roy said:

You use the word "service" in your example. A service is what you get when you WILLINGLY contract with another. When you say government provides a service you are ignoring it has an or else involved. So it's not really a "service" . The politest word to describe that would be an imposition rather than service. I'll just call it what it is though....extortion.

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Rob Roy said:

Don't have to...self evident. USA leading the world in people imprisoned.

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Mr Neutron said:

I believe we live in a country that is supposed to value liberty above all else. What benefits are you talking about?

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Which taxes? Sales taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, import taxes...?

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I see it more like somebody robbing me to pay for someone else's groceries.

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ginjawarrior said:

yes yes imposition would be right

you've impositioned yourself on the rest of the people at the buffet because you've stuffed your plate full and now your complaining about paying for it

imposition works quite well

the moment you leave the buffet is the moment that you choose to not accept their service there

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Rob Roy said:

So a group of people can make another pay for things they don't want and/or find morally objectionable and you accept this as the way it should be?

At a buffet people are free to choose amongst the menu aren't they?

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ginjawarrior said:

its an all you can eat buffet you plate is full of food and you have crumbs around your mouth

it doesnt matter if you dont want the seafood out on selection you dont have to eat it

you just dont get to complain about the seafood being there
EDIT: badly worded while you can complain about there being seafood on offer it does not follow that you get your meal for free because of it


why do you think its ok to not pay for your plate of food?

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