How Long Can I Leave Plants Unattended?

TJ baba

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Alright, so I'm planning to take some vacations this year, but I still want to keep my plants alive. I'm currently growing in soil, but was thinking maybe hydroponics could fit my schedule better. I know very little about hydro. I have 5'x2'x5' and two 150w hps. I want to take vacations about 1 or 2 weeks long. Is this achievable? If so, any advice on good products for this specific purpose would be very appreciated. Thanks
 

jronnn

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Alright, so I'm planning to take some vacations this year, but I still want to keep my plants alive. I'm currently growing in soil, but was thinking maybe hydroponics could fit my schedule better. I know very little about hydro. I have 5'x2'x5' and two 150w hps. I want to take vacations about 1 or 2 weeks long. Is this achievable? If so, any advice on good products for this specific purpose would be very appreciated. Thanks
im not qualified to give out advice (I'm a beginner) but from the information I've gathered id say flood and drain is the way to go if you plan on leaving weeks at a time
 

TJ baba

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@jesus of Cannabis ah, so I would be better off with soil? Could I use fabric pots with soil, and then fill up a bucket 3/4 full of nutrient water and put the plantsand in fabric pots in the bucket of nutrient water? Would that work for a while?
 

DrGhard

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i left a DWC plant unattended for 10 days in veg, did the nutrients change (which usually i do every 7 days, but that time i let it on for 10) and then left.
when i came back the plant was perfectly fine. just the water level went a bit low in the dwc pot due to transpiration (and me not being there topping it up), but that helped keeping the nutrients ppm high over the 10 days. when i came back i was actually surprised to see how much it had grown hehe, when you usually check your plants once per day you notice less the differences.
 

JSB99

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Alright, so I'm planning to take some vacations this year, but I still want to keep my plants alive. I'm currently growing in soil, but was thinking maybe hydroponics could fit my schedule better. I know very little about hydro. I have 5'x2'x5' and two 150w hps. I want to take vacations about 1 or 2 weeks long. Is this achievable? If so, any advice on good products for this specific purpose would be very appreciated. Thanks

Don't grow hydro. It's something that needs to be watched very closely as plants can die within hours of a failure.

What you can do though, is set up a timer and a reservoir to act as a top-feed drip system on a schedule. Very cheap and easy to set up.

Then you have to worry about the lights

I propose an auto-height hood that uses sensors to determine the distance between the plant and hood. Then a motor could raise the hood as necessary.

Now, If I could combine that with my other idea of an auto-dimming ballast using a thermostat probe hung from the hood to detect the temperature at the canopy.

I'm an engineer, so automation's in my blood :bigjoint:
 

nomofatum

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Now, If I could combine that with my other idea of an auto-dimming ballast using a thermostat probe hung from the hood to detect the temperature at the canopy.

I'm an engineer, so automation's in my blood :bigjoint:
Instead of running one big light, consider using multiple smaller ones, then instead of dimming you can simply turn some off/on.

I run 2 315 CMH, 1 600 HPS, and 200w of tanning bulbs. So when it's warmer outside the HPS and tanning bulbs can be turned off. I just unplug them, but automating it would be cool.
 

Budley Doright

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Alright, so I'm planning to take some vacations this year, but I still want to keep my plants alive. I'm currently growing in soil, but was thinking maybe hydroponics could fit my schedule better. I know very little about hydro. I have 5'x2'x5' and two 150w hps. I want to take vacations about 1 or 2 weeks long. Is this achievable? If so, any advice on good products for this specific purpose would be very appreciated. Thanks
Hydro is probably not the best system to leave unattended but I do it lol. I run a non flooded root zone and once the roots are established the plants can survive for quite some time if a pump fails do to the high humidity and moisture but that's not a great thing lol. I leave my system for a week with out any additional need for nutes, water, etc. But I still have my partner check things like pumps, lights, etc. She has no clue how to do anything though so hopefully it's all good lol.
 

Skunk Baxter

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Hydro is probably not the best system to leave unattended but I do it lol. I run a non flooded root zone and once the roots are established the plants can survive for quite some time if a pump fails do to the high humidity and moisture but that's not a great thing lol. I leave my system for a week with out any additional need for nutes, water, etc. But I still have my partner check things like pumps, lights, etc. She has no clue how to do anything though so hopefully it's all good lol.
Yeah, I had a friend like that once too. I was trying to help her out by setting up a grow room for her and teaching her how to grow, and from watching "Weeds" every week on Showtime she assumed it would be really easy. Her role at the start was to monitor the seedlings, and water as needed.

I'd call her up and ask, "So, how the plants doing?" And she'd say, "They're doing great! They look terrific!" OK, fine. I'd go over a couple of days later, and HOly CHRIST!!! I quickly learned that as far as she was concerned, as long as the plants were A) all still there, B) still mostly vertical, rather than horizontal, and C) still mostly green, they were "great and looked terrific!" No matter how much I tried to teach her about what to watch for, and what plants are supposed to look like, she just couldn't get it.

Some people have the green thumb, some don't. If you genuinely don't have it, it's pretty hard to teach it. About the best she could do was let me know whether the basement was flooded or not, so that's just what I had to work with.
 

Budley Doright

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Yeah, I had a friend like that once too. I was trying to help her out by setting up a grow room for her and teaching her how to grow, and from watching "Weeds" every week on Showtime she assumed it would be really easy. Her role at the start was to monitor the seedlings, and water as needed.

I'd call her up and ask, "So, how the plants doing?" And she'd say, "They're doing great! They look terrific!" OK, fine. I'd go over a couple of days later, and HOly CHRIST!!! I quickly learned that as far as she was concerned, as long as the plants were A) all still there, B) still mostly vertical, rather than horizontal, and C) still mostly green, they were "great and looked terrific!" No matter how much I tried to teach her about what to watch for, and what plants are supposed to look like, she just couldn't get it.

Some people have the green thumb, some don't. If you genuinely don't have it, it's pretty hard to teach it. About the best she could do was let me know whether the basement was flooded or not, so that's just what I had to work with.
Actually I kill house plants lol, she nurtures and loves them lol, my house looks like the Amazon lol. My setup up is pretty automated with the exact same shit ever week but if something goes wrong I figure it's about 3-4 days before I hit the point of no return :o. She doesn't know how to set the timer on the coffee machine lol.
 

JCave

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This is what I been trying to figure out myself but as permanent solution.

I run a Flood Table (ebb and flow). I enjoy hydro seems like the more streamline way of growing and imo one way that can be easy automated.

All you need to do in hydro
- Maintain PPM at target range (for me 947)
- Maintain PH in proper range (I keep mine 5.8)
- Keep the res topped off

All of those can be maintain by a computer.

If I was going to leave for a vacation for 7 days, leaving my plants unattainable.
Things I would do is, add more water and nutes to res (keeping ppm and ph) so that water would not evaporate and expose the pumps.

What I noticed in my attempt to keep my mothers small, plants grow no matter what, if you had the initial conditionals and current conditions are ideal.
What happens after leaving a res un-checked, ph-ed or ppm-ed for about a month, the plants start to consume the lower leaves as energy to keep themselves alive. So even in my neglects to the res, the plants were still living.
 

DrGhard

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just run a DWC inside oxypots
(works with single or multiple ones all linked together). just fill up the reservoir before you leave and for one week you are good to go. make sure that the bubbler runs all the time (together with the ventilation systems) and you have the lights on a reliable timer. dunno what type of hydroponic people refer to that needs to be monitored every day, but as soon as you set up your timers properly you dont really need to check anything

unless:
- your plant(s) are very small. in that case you need to be more careful with the nutrients and check them a bit more often
- you are doing some mainlining/LST/scrog etc, which ofc needs frequent checks in order to tie/cut/care all the leaves and branches properly.

for me i found the best time to leave plants unattended in the late flowering (assuming your timers are good). plants take up very low nutrients (in DWC) and they dont need pretty much any checking except once per week anyhow.
 

Budley Doright

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just run a DWC inside oxypots
(works with single or multiple ones all linked together). just fill up the reservoir before you leave and for one week you are good to go. make sure that the bubbler runs all the time (together with the ventilation systems) and you have the lights on a reliable timer. dunno what type of hydroponic people refer to that needs to be monitored every day, but as soon as you set up your timers properly you dont really need to check anything

unless:
- your plant(s) are very small. in that case you need to be more careful with the nutrients and check them a bit more often
- you are doing some mainlining/LST/scrog etc, which ofc needs frequent checks in order to tie/cut/care all the leaves and branches properly.

for me i found the best time to leave plants unattended in the late flowering (assuming your timers are good). plants take up very low nutrients (in DWC) and they dont need pretty much any checking except once per week anyhow.
Do you not have to keep the water chilled? Never tried DWC, well once and it was a assume failure lol. I just installed a chiller of sorts for my ebb and flo's and sprayers and am getting way better results. Also your right about the PH thing and if you keep a journal you can pretty much just add at beginning and not adjust anything until the next Res change I've found. I add exactly 30ml of my down and it's perfect every time and it stays pretty close, raising no more than 2 points in 7 days. It may be different for lots because I don't switch nutrients. The issue with a flooded root zone for me is the quick death that can happen if air fucks up. With a drained root zone system, and if their established (big white mat lol) then they will last a few days and still be alive. I've had plants that were mutants (little) that were left in a powered down setup last a few weeks just from the Matt left from the harvested plants, I would like to say it was for research but I was lazy lol.
 

blackforest

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Just got back from Mexico from a week vacation. I had my silverback in a 5 gal fabric container, drenched it before I left, she was just fine, but another day or two and it would not have worked out. Last year, I had my 6 site rdwc system hooked up, Filled a 32 gal container and it drank 25 while I was gone. It's doable, to a degree. On a side note, I also cut some clones, right before I left, juiced them up, put them in a dome and they all rooted while I was gone and look great.
 

DrGhard

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Do you not have to keep the water chilled? Never tried DWC, well once and it was a assume failure lol. I just installed a chiller of sorts for my ebb and flo's and sprayers and am getting way better results. Also your right about the PH thing and if you keep a journal you can pretty much just add at beginning and not adjust anything until the next Res change I've found. I add exactly 30ml of my down and it's perfect every time and it stays pretty close, raising no more than 2 points in 7 days. It may be different for lots because I don't switch nutrients. The issue with a flooded root zone for me is the quick death that can happen if air fucks up. With a drained root zone system, and if their established (big white mat lol) then they will last a few days and still be alive. I've had plants that were mutants (little) that were left in a powered down setup last a few weeks just from the Matt left from the harvested plants, I would like to say it was for research but I was lazy lol.
not really. well it depends where you live i guess. in northern europe the room temperature is around 17-22 degrees Celsius, so is never too high for indoor DWC. the most important thing is to prevent light going inside the pot or the reservoir. i also usually add a powder of mycorrhyza/beneficial bacteria to the res each nutrient change (ie every 7 days). although in submerged roots the mycorrhyza never take hold like in soil the bacteria can still help take up nutrients, or at least in the worst case scenario to prime the plant immune system without causing actual infection (like a vaccine in human for instance).

about air is not such a big deal as people think. i think root can live submerged for a full week with no issues, as soon as the water was well oxigenated before. i had once one of my crappiest air pump to break, and the plant was perfectly fine for the 2 days till i replaced it. many plants (not sure about cannabis) can be grown in full immersion hydroponic without any bubbler at all.
 
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