WhatDoYouWantFromLife
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I've seen alot of outdoor full grows that didn't look as good as your scrog. Great job.
How is my SCRoG looking?
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DragonsBreath
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nice grow there, you might want to prune your plants MILF. Take those bigger fan leaves off to let more light make it thru the canopy on bud sights. You should be able to do it by eye, if you see a leaf shading a bud sight, snip, snip.
some people say and I also believe that a plant under optimal controlled conditions doesn't need many fan leaves at all. They are meant to catch sun and help keep cool, but your cab seems it is perfect for them. Don't be to worried , test it out should help with more yield do some more then others and see if it changes anything from strain to strain. Can't wait to see how it comes out.
some people say and I also believe that a plant under optimal controlled conditions doesn't need many fan leaves at all. They are meant to catch sun and help keep cool, but your cab seems it is perfect for them. Don't be to worried , test it out should help with more yield do some more then others and see if it changes anything from strain to strain. Can't wait to see how it comes out.
MsMILFweed
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Are you just messing with me? You are, aren't you.
Thanks.. I'm actually really pleased this grow, I haven't had one problem and not one leaf has shown any sign of stress, nute burn or any kind of deficiency. They are all absolutely perfectly healthy plants.
Thanks for the info, I'll trim them up some more. I've already taken quite a bit out (I can see to water under the screen now
).. but, I thought the whole thing was the fan leaves were the factories for making all the plants energy (photosynthesis etc). Will the buds grow well if you took the majority of the fan leaves off?
DragonsBreath
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well if you have already did some pruning then you should be good if you can see all teh bud sights and such. I don't want to say to go crazy, but I don't think it will ruin ur plants. I haven't done it my self yet but I plan to test it out.
The more light the bud sights get the thicker and better they are from what I have seen, hence lollipopin them, not how much lite the fan leaves get. This just all makes sense to me and I also read it in this grow as well.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/39993-p-p-p-x-blueberry-101.html
page 101 I think he mentions it
The more light the bud sights get the thicker and better they are from what I have seen, hence lollipopin them, not how much lite the fan leaves get. This just all makes sense to me and I also read it in this grow as well.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/39993-p-p-p-x-blueberry-101.html
page 101 I think he mentions it
DragonsBreath
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Going to give us some pics of your trim?
MsMILFweed
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It's funny you ask.. because I decided to pull at the tiny budlets and use that as a test for a water cure. I threw away the bigger fan leaves.
I'm using a coffee press (cafetiere) as it was just a small amount and give me an easy way to keep it sub-merged. .. So Day 1 of a water cure.
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DragonsBreath
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great minds think alike
MsMILFweed
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BTW, the beginning of this grow is here https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/53836-spring-2008-grow-420-harvest.html
Is there anyway I can have these threads merged?
Is there anyway I can have these threads merged?
pinksensa
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You have an amazing grow going and I promise I am not trying to be a cunt when I say this but didnt you lose the benefit of the scrog when you didnt tie the branches down or am I not seeing where you did this.....your plant seems to have grown vertically which is awesome and looks great but the benefit of a scrog is the horizontal growing plane..which optimizes the amount of light that all the budsites can have....
since you didnt bend and tie did the screen and the branches coming through enable your vertical branches to spread out more evenly and receive more light? I promise Im not being mean, and this isnt the first scrog that I have seen like yours Im just curious as what the screen is for if you arent bending and tying to create a horizontal light surface
since you didnt bend and tie did the screen and the branches coming through enable your vertical branches to spread out more evenly and receive more light? I promise Im not being mean, and this isnt the first scrog that I have seen like yours Im just curious as what the screen is for if you arent bending and tying to create a horizontal light surface
mattso101
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Yeah nice SCROG! I like the cut of your jib Ms MILF. Check out mine I will be Harvesting in 7-14 days
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/44057-dna-genetics-cinderella-99-a-47.html
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/44057-dna-genetics-cinderella-99-a-47.html
donkeyballs
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a little tightly packed but it looks super good.
MsMILFweed
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I don't think I've lost any benefit to the screen or horizontal growth at all, as there is no need to literally tie the plant down. when the first branches were young and pliable i just stretched them along under the screen. The screen is what is holding them down. All the side branches then come out from where the nodes are and these get poked down until they grow along.
My screen is also 1" square plastic netting. So it's quite close together.
Here's an undershot of the plants. As you can see the screen is actually filled up a fair bit horizontally. Plus I have 4 plants in 2 gal. pots in the cab. These fill out the space of the screen. (I've also got 2 tiny quart sized pots stuck in the back between the two bigger pots. As you can see the screen is totally covered, or should I be getting more bud sites out of it?
Does that make any sense? Or do you not think I've not got enough coverage? I'm interested in your opinions.
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pinksensa
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okay first of all I think that the way your screen was used to make the branches spread their arms if you will much wider than they would have if you had not had the screen thereby enabling them to get much more light which fuckin rocks....I think your coverage of the screen based on the effect you are getting is perfect....
now my understanding is that if say, way before they got as tall as they are if you had bent and tied them horizonatally you would have increased yeild even more than you have (which i believe you have done) from your spread eagle horizonatal screen (i just made that up) if the access to light had been given to the full length of exposed branch.
BUT the exciting is that your going to have like 2 harvests....your going to watch the tops and gauge those for your 1st as you cut them back you will want to leave the bottom half to flower for another few weeks and then you will harvest again.....Ive seen you in my thread so I know you know Im a bitchy but sweet princess and I am telling you from the bottom of my heart that you have done a 1st class job, and my hat and bra are off to you ha ha and we have a new name for this style and I knw you are an experimenting mad scientist like me so you should run some variables like same number of plants same all but bend and tie and compare the yeilds but honestly if i had the vertical height I could see doing the SEHS spread eagle horizontal screen lmao
White Widow Woman
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Wow!!!! Be-u-T-ful!!!!!!! I may have to try this SCROG someday. I've been reading up on it for ages and I love to look at the pretty pictures when you guys post some. Well, maybe someday...
Keep on growing girl!
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Keep on growing girl!
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MsMILFweed
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But light was given to the whole branch. Their vertical growth is what grew since turning to 12/12s. There won't be two harvests, as the buds will be the first harvest. There aren't any under buds (except for the odd one or two that covered by other buds).
My plants were probably about 8" tall when I put the screen on. The top was bent over and I then trained all subsequent growth under the screen. There was no growth above the screen - The screen being about 5" from the soil. After another couple weeks I flipped to 12/12. I don't see how it could be done any different. Once I turned to 12's the plants started their stretch for flowering. That's the vertical growth that you're seeing.
I'm not sure I'm understanding what you're getting at here. Unless you are saying that during 12/12 I should still be tying down/stopping upward growth.
. Can't wait to see your yields!
pinksensa
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Nope I just didnt get that, the growth was all from flower it makes much more sense to me now, lol sorry to have hi jacked your thread so much to figure that out....soooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyyyyyyyyyy
MsMILFweed
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Just under 2 weeks to go now. I'm starting to feed with just 10mls p/gal of Flora-Nectar and 1/2tsp of Cha-Chingg. The Northern Lights are the very white buds in the front and that's A/Dream in the back.
The other thing I'm really pleased with is my breeding. Instead of just leaving the whole plant with a male like I've done in the past I decided to try just pollenting a single bud.
My male plant was an American Dream and the females are Northern Lights, Juicy Fruit and another A/Dream. So now with my seeds I shall have
Juicy Dreams and Northern Dreams as my new strains. Whatchathink??
The Juicy Fruit I'm growing in one of those 64 oz cups from 7/11 - that's the cup in the very front to the right with the yellow label sticking out (yellow for juicy fruit.. get it?).
To pollenate, I just covered over all the buds with a black trash bag then just left one bud from each plant stick out and then pollenated that with a paintbrush dabbed in the pollen. Then I misted down everywhere over the top of the trash bag to stop any loose pollen from flying around, then removed the bag and threw it away.
I pollenated on 27th March 08 and by about 3 days later the stigmas on the calyxes started to turn brown.
By the 4th April you could see definite seeds forming. So that's in about the space of a week. The male plant I had grown in a tiny pot and manually put him in 12's (taking in and out the cab) for 2 weeks prior to turning the females over to 12's.
Any questions, thoughts, advice?
Thanks
The other thing I'm really pleased with is my breeding. Instead of just leaving the whole plant with a male like I've done in the past I decided to try just pollenting a single bud.
My male plant was an American Dream and the females are Northern Lights, Juicy Fruit and another A/Dream. So now with my seeds I shall have
Juicy Dreams and Northern Dreams as my new strains. Whatchathink??
The Juicy Fruit I'm growing in one of those 64 oz cups from 7/11 - that's the cup in the very front to the right with the yellow label sticking out (yellow for juicy fruit.. get it?).
To pollenate, I just covered over all the buds with a black trash bag then just left one bud from each plant stick out and then pollenated that with a paintbrush dabbed in the pollen. Then I misted down everywhere over the top of the trash bag to stop any loose pollen from flying around, then removed the bag and threw it away.
I pollenated on 27th March 08 and by about 3 days later the stigmas on the calyxes started to turn brown.
By the 4th April you could see definite seeds forming. So that's in about the space of a week. The male plant I had grown in a tiny pot and manually put him in 12's (taking in and out the cab) for 2 weeks prior to turning the females over to 12's.
Any questions, thoughts, advice?
Thanks
