How have people been busted?
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korvette1977
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Loose lips sink ships .
So tell us about your grow ?
So tell us about your grow ?
Woomeister
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Tell nobody and stay lucky.
JimmyPot
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I don't have one.Ha Ha.Loose lips sinks ships he he.In time.
South Texas
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While being "transported" from one County Jail to another, the Law Man told me that 80% of all bust comes from Citizens snitching. As a Poker Player, all bets are made after considering the odds. Same as growing, etc. What is the odds. Logic reasoning tells me that I have an 80% chance of success is I tell no one. Of course people, like myself, like to show off their Babies, and that is why this site is important. I can share my excitement without the risk, if done properly. There is a list of the 10 most common mistakes made... when I find it, I'll forward it.
South Texas
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Just remember the unbearable heat & humidity... I want to get to the Hills of Ark, out of the humidity. Other than loose lips, another precaution is a rule adopted from the Military; IE CYA, aka Cover your ass. To apply, you MUST have a logical answer for what you are doing, and why you are doing it at any given time. The truth has nothing to do with anything. You just paint a logical & believable picture for someone asking nosy question. Never allow yourself to be put in a bad situation if at all possible. Never take unnecessary risk. As my Dad taught me, "Never run your horse through the Creek before getting off & seeing what you are fixing to get into". This applies to everything. Understand what you are getting into before you get your feet wet.
DR. VonDankenstine
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They don't fuck around with anything in TEXAS... I'm lucky to be in cali but there are those whom are even better off then us Californians---the Netherlands and Amsterdam.
Leilani Garden
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That's good information about how 80% of busts are caused by snitching. That is what scares the hell out of me. I now understand why a friend who's been growing for years just about had a heart attack when she thought I'd mentioned her stuff to another friend of mine--one who is totally cool, laid back and not a problem. But when I contemplated it with me as the one growing, suddenly it all became a lot more clear. Tell no one. Anyone who does not have to know should not know, period.
I'd really like to know and have been unable to figure out this: Are they or are they not allowed to use FLIR? I found some info online that the Supreme Court ruled against it in 2001, as an unlawful violation of privacy. But then, on this site, I saw a thread in which someone had posted the video taken from a helicopter using FLIR, and it appeared to be recent.
Whether they (gov'ts, that is) are legally allowed to use FLIR, I trust them about as much as I trust, well, the government. Even if illegal, I could see them using it, then finding some other reason to get a warrant.
I've also heard that they cannot use electric company records of usage as a reason for a warrant--but then I have the same suspicions. Wouldn't they just use that info to find another reason for a warrant? I know someone who had a broken heater system and whose bill doubled (or maybe it tripled--not sure). She got a call from the electric company asking what had changed to make her usage go up so much.
My biggest problem is my teenager. I've got to get him moved out before I can get this started. He has no reason to go into my room, and I've bought locks for those doors with the excuse that I'm tired of things going missing from my bedroom and my bathroom. But I still don't feel at all comfortable doing this with a volatile adolescent in my home.
Scary stuff, the idea of getting caught. Plus, I have daycare center within 1000 feet of my place. If you drive, it's more than 1000 feet, but if you walk through the woods, it's closer. Then again, at that point, I think I'd be toast anyway.
Good thread. Thanks for the info. If anyone knows anything about FLIR and its use or electric company records, I'm all ears.
I'd really like to know and have been unable to figure out this: Are they or are they not allowed to use FLIR? I found some info online that the Supreme Court ruled against it in 2001, as an unlawful violation of privacy. But then, on this site, I saw a thread in which someone had posted the video taken from a helicopter using FLIR, and it appeared to be recent.
Whether they (gov'ts, that is) are legally allowed to use FLIR, I trust them about as much as I trust, well, the government. Even if illegal, I could see them using it, then finding some other reason to get a warrant.
I've also heard that they cannot use electric company records of usage as a reason for a warrant--but then I have the same suspicions. Wouldn't they just use that info to find another reason for a warrant? I know someone who had a broken heater system and whose bill doubled (or maybe it tripled--not sure). She got a call from the electric company asking what had changed to make her usage go up so much.
My biggest problem is my teenager. I've got to get him moved out before I can get this started. He has no reason to go into my room, and I've bought locks for those doors with the excuse that I'm tired of things going missing from my bedroom and my bathroom. But I still don't feel at all comfortable doing this with a volatile adolescent in my home.
Scary stuff, the idea of getting caught. Plus, I have daycare center within 1000 feet of my place. If you drive, it's more than 1000 feet, but if you walk through the woods, it's closer. Then again, at that point, I think I'd be toast anyway.
Good thread. Thanks for the info. If anyone knows anything about FLIR and its use or electric company records, I'm all ears.
towelie...
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why would the teenager be the problem???
i know a lot of people with kids that grow.
just tell him that he must tell nobody, EVER!!
the other problem would be him or her smoking your stash
i know a lot of people with kids that grow.
just tell him that he must tell nobody, EVER!!
the other problem would be him or her smoking your stash
Londoner
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couldnt agree more, dnt tell nobody! Not even yr closest mates, ya never know wen they'l let somethin slip, especially wen theyre high drunk or both b4 u know it every tom dick n harry knows and yr name go's around as growin dank ass weed(happened to me few years ago) wasnt actually busted but had to pack up my project due to it bein too hot. But yea its the same in the uk most grows are busted as a result of a tip off by the public a neighbour or yr so called mate u were dumb enough to tell about yr grow!
stonerboy1
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ya dont tell him
stonerboy1
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because he could use it agaist you
Why not let your teenager know?
Because teens talk their asses off and have no clue of the consequences of it. Even if your teen is a pot smoker and thinks its cool for you to grow, they might brag about it to other pot smoking teens. Even if they think you are cool, they get popped driving with a few buds and are threatened by cops who exaggerate the seriousness of the incident, they may just start naming names. You could go down big time just so a kid doesn't have to pay a 100 dollar fine on his misdemeanor charge. Not all kids are bright.
Another reason not to let a teen know (assume that if one knows, many more now know) is that now you are under the threat of being burglarized or worse.
What if a kid isn't into his parents hobby and actually looks down on it or is scared due to all the propaganda that's been forced upon them? What if they go to the school counselor? What if they get emotional at school for some teen drama credit with their peers?
You just can't tell anyone but especially teens. If you are going to do something like this you have too keep as much control as you are capable. Every other person who knows makes it exponentially harder to control including having a partner.
Because teens talk their asses off and have no clue of the consequences of it. Even if your teen is a pot smoker and thinks its cool for you to grow, they might brag about it to other pot smoking teens. Even if they think you are cool, they get popped driving with a few buds and are threatened by cops who exaggerate the seriousness of the incident, they may just start naming names. You could go down big time just so a kid doesn't have to pay a 100 dollar fine on his misdemeanor charge. Not all kids are bright.
Another reason not to let a teen know (assume that if one knows, many more now know) is that now you are under the threat of being burglarized or worse.
What if a kid isn't into his parents hobby and actually looks down on it or is scared due to all the propaganda that's been forced upon them? What if they go to the school counselor? What if they get emotional at school for some teen drama credit with their peers?
You just can't tell anyone but especially teens. If you are going to do something like this you have too keep as much control as you are capable. Every other person who knows makes it exponentially harder to control including having a partner.
Leilani Garden
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Yup, most of this had me nodding my head in agreement.
The kid in question is not dumb, by any means; he's really, really bright. Like frighteningly smart. That does not mean he wouldn't one day be upset with me over something stupid and then tell someone. I love my kids, but I'm not kidding myself about how vindictive teenagers can be.
Then there is the blab factor you mentioned, like at school, trying to look cool or something. I can just about hear it: "Oh yeah? Well my mom grows reefer, so there." Something like that.
Like you said, they really don't understand the seriousness of the consequences--same reason they take such outrageous risks in their own lives. Most teens have "not-me" syndrome. That doesn't make them dumb. It makes them normal for their age.
He's not old enough to drive yet, so I'm not concerned about that. You mentioned living with the threat of a burglary. I hadn't even thought of that. Good point.
Another threat, the kind that can do serious damage to the relationship between a kid and his parent, is a kid having control over that parent. If my teenager knew about this, he could easily make threats: I get this, or I tell. Maybe not in so many words, but that threat is there. That is a huge, huge, no-no. Even if nothing ever happened to me, I would not allow that to happen.
You never let a teenager have power over you. Never. Even if you never wind up in legal trouble, it screws up the dynamics of the relationship and the kid winds up getting damaged. That's pretty important to me. I don't want to do anything that will make growing up harder on this kid. Life's hard enough when you're a freshman in high school, you know? Making him, basically, an accomplice is not good for him.
About people who do involve their kids in this, or others who indulge with their kids? I think that's a terrible thing to do to a kid. They'll find that kind of thing on their own, if that's what they want. I think the odds that my teen will at least try some pot are good. I'm not going to be surprised when that happens. I don't think he's the sort of kid who would get heavily involved in it, which is a good thing, since he's still very young. But people who encourage or condone kids doing that? I don't think very highly of them as parents. Same with things like porn. There's no reason for parents to supply that kind of thing. It's perfectly normal for them to be curious, to want to see it (or in the case of pot, to try it). But the way for them to do it is not with the help of parents. They come to that stuff on their own. I found a T-n-A magazine in my teen's room. I wasn't snooping (I don't do that, either--unfair in every way), I was only looking for something of mine he'd borrowed. So I found the magazine--and I put it right back where it was and never said a word about it. He doesn't need me to come down on him for perfectly normal behavior, but he also does not need me to encourage him. That's his business.
Thanks for the feedback everyone.
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makinthemagic
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The court case came about because cops were using FLIR without getting a warrant. Cops argued that they weren't searching the property in a way that required a warrant. Good thing the Supreme Court disagreed. Cops can use FLIR but they need probably cause to get a warrant first.
stevencaymanbrac
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The electric bill wont be that much unless you put in a huge amount. Example: the bill only goes up: 1000 watt bulb uses 1 kw/hr x 12 hrs/day x 30 days/mo x $.046/kwh=$16.56 added for each 1000 watt lamp. Unless you are growing huge, the monthly bump is no problem.
As far is IR, your IR signiture is very easy to hide unless again, you have a huge grow, and even then Ive never heard of police ramdomly looking for it. But if your outside walls are not warm, or your not venting lots of hot air, then the IR cameras wont pick up anything. They only pick up heat. And there are many ways to keep heat off your outside walls. Vent in and inside room, out through the dryer vent, out the sewer pipe, up the hot water tank exhaust, and so on.
Good luck
As far is IR, your IR signiture is very easy to hide unless again, you have a huge grow, and even then Ive never heard of police ramdomly looking for it. But if your outside walls are not warm, or your not venting lots of hot air, then the IR cameras wont pick up anything. They only pick up heat. And there are many ways to keep heat off your outside walls. Vent in and inside room, out through the dryer vent, out the sewer pipe, up the hot water tank exhaust, and so on.
Good luck
High4Life
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I remember some 1 telling me and my friends about his super grow , My friends had there own little grow going But did not feel the need to tell ,, Any ways that night his front door got kicked in and his 10 two week from harvest white widows where gone and smoked lol Nothing to do with me haha
Tell no 1 and keep your room cool from infered they are the 2 ways
Tell no 1 and keep your room cool from infered they are the 2 ways
havocdb
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I would never trade "more" access to MJ for benefits of living in California. I love California. It is my Country. I'm not an American, I'm a Californian. Herb is very tolerated here, and that's good enough. When I grow, I grow for me only. Nobody cares about that. There is a reason we are all snobs about buds here.
thelastpirate
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why would the teenager be the problem???
i know a lot of people with kids that grow.
just tell him that he must tell nobody, EVER!!
the other problem would be him or her smoking your stash
Good luck!!! You have alot of "aggravating circumstances" that could be used to enhance a sentence should you get caught. Kids in the house, within 1000' of a school. Tsk, Tsk.
Keep it quiet. You are wise to wait until the teenager is out of the house. My son is 21, (lives on his own) and he discovered my original first grow about a month into it. Poking his nose into the guest room (Door was closed, used to be my office) I pulled up and disposed of 6 plants, and took down the lights in front of him. Thanx son. I had to convince him I had to stop since he knew.
Look at yourself and your friend. Even tho she was growing, she told you! And you told a most trusted friend, and they will tell a most trusted friend, ad nauseum.
Yes the gov't can use FLIR. But its not the magic lens into your home people make it out to be. Read up on it and it's not hard to defeat. They can also use your electric usage to substantiate other evidence (Snitches are not REALLY a reliable source by themselves. easy for a good lawyer (sic) to discredit)
You growing for personal use only, or are ya gonna grow a supplemental income? If you are gonna make money, lay some cash on a bondsman, and an attorney. Keep a good stash of money somewhere other than your house. If they catch you, the press spin doctors are gonna make you out to be worse than a baby raping, child predator whos' sole mission in life is to get the "children" hooked on heroin.