How do You! Control your Ph? :D

shaun2000

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Hi guys and girls. Im Not asking how to fix ph, not quite. im asking How do you do it.

My Issue is ive just moved from soil to hempy, and i want to mix up tiny amounts of formula as im folior feeding till its roots hit the res. So Im Using phd water(Tap water comes out at 7.1.) Then im adding canna a+b and Rhizatone. Which basically shoves my 500ml amount up around 7-8.1 ( My pen just broke today getting new one) I Have Ph Down, but the issue is that it states its 1ml for 50 litre . Or 0.02ml for 1l. Or .01ml for what i want. Now the smallest Dropper i have is 0.10ml. and im at a loss at what to do here, Esp Considering that that one 0.01ml will Change a ph from 6.5 to 5.5 aprox. So Im Looking for a better system on getting my ph dialed in for approx 1 litre. What do u guys do? Any suggestions? As I Dont want to mix big batches of 5 litres as its abit of a waste of those exp nutes and root stimulant



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justugh

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honestly doing it so small is always going to be hard

what about investing in a tea keeper or building one for yourself not to hard

that is the design and all u can order the bucket to use and just forget about they nutreints they sent

just keep the air pump going in the bucket and the bucket in a cool area and u can make a larger batch save in there and keep good/make better do to all the air in the water now
 

shaun2000

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Tea lol. Well , I dont really know enough about it tbh. I Recived my Rhizo and cana free so i decided to use it. Ive Never thought about this tea. Can u tell me more? Is It hard to make these mixes (Hard Being Cheap)- (I dont sell , its for personal taste.) Can u suggest A company thats not going to charge me a million bucks to send to aus?


Ps. Forgot to mention, the reason i asked this questions is i need a solution now rather then sooner, But I might Do some reasing up on making tea later on for the clones, if shes a lady.
 

superstoner1

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Phing tap water before u add anything to it is a waste. Ph should always be the last thing u do to a nute mix. Water+nutes+addititives+adjust ph.
 

Mithrandir420

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Take your ph down. Dilute it with water. 50/50 or so. (In a separate container) You now have a weaker ph down solution that is easier to control when phing smaller amounts.

And yet again we see that superstoner is incorrect. Yes you can ph your water before adding nutes. It's easier to do it last, which is what most of us do, but yes, you can ph first.
 

superstoner1

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Its a complete waste to ph before adding eIts a complete waste to ph before adding eveIts a complete waste to ph before adding eIts a complete waste to ph before adding everything. Why would you want to waste product and time just to do it again. Sure u can do it first but when u have to redo it it is stupid and inefficiant. The nutes and additives will change the water ph that is why u do it last.
And u can kiss my ass if u want to get personal. Nothing incorrect there just trying to help someone not have the problems he is having but go ahead and do it first. Just trying to help. I figured after somebody has harvested a couple thousand plants without losing one u would want good advice from them.
 

shaun2000

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Take your ph down. Dilute it with water. 50/50 or so. (In a separate container) You now have a weaker ph down solution that is easier to control when phing smaller amounts.

And yet again we see that superstoner is incorrect. Yes you can ph your water before adding nutes. It's easier to do it last, which is what most of us do, but yes, you can ph first.
I think i like this suggestion of weakinging my ph solution, this is what i was after.
 

Sir.Ganga

New Member
Small batches equals small syringes. I use a 10ml syringe for 10 litre batches or smaller and a 60ml syringe for larger batches. I have never had an issue making up smaller batches just be careful and make sure a ml is a ml.
 

Mithrandir420

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Its a complete waste to ph before adding eIts a complete waste to ph before adding eveIts a complete waste to ph before adding eIts a complete waste to ph before adding everything. Why would you want to waste product and time just to do it again. Sure u can do it first but when u have to redo it it is stupid and inefficiant. The nutes and additives will change the water ph that is why u do it last.
And u can kiss my ass if u want to get personal. Nothing incorrect there just trying to help someone not have the problems he is having but go ahead and do it first. Just trying to help. I figured after somebody has harvested a couple thousand plants without losing one u would want good advice from them.
My nute solution takes the same amount of ph down whether I add it first or last. I add it last because that's generally the best time to add it. But it works either way.

I am guessing that you are thinking that I am saying to ph it to the FINAL ph level first. That is not what I am saying.
 

shaun2000

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Small batches equals small syringes. I use a 10ml syringe for 10 litre batches or smaller and a 60ml syringe for larger batches. I have never had an issue making up smaller batches just be careful and make sure a ml is a ml.

10 lt batches is abit of a waste . im using Veg nutes and rhizotine, if i make it up for ten lts i think the water will go stagnet and stale before i use it all, as my other plants are in flower.
 

shaun2000

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Make sure your setting your PH after adding your nutes, not before. Also, I grow in hempy, it is more forgiving than active hydro. You do not have to be so precise. I use a simple liquid PH tester (http://generalhydroponics.com/site/index.php/products/maintenance/ph_buffers/ph_test_kit/) and keep my PH right around 6 and have never really had a problem. Good luck! bongsmilie
Yeah , i heard most hempy grows, people stated that they prefered a measurment of 5.8ph, so was wondering how id get that dialed in , for a small scale plant
 

lamopa

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Yeah , i heard most hempy grows, people stated that they prefered a measurment of 5.8ph, so was wondering how id get that dialed in , for a small scale plant
You are correct, 5.8 is just about ideal for hydroponics in general. The beauty of hempy is that it is almost as forgiving as soil, so you do not have to be so precise. A difference of .2 PH in either direction (5.6-6.0) is fine for your plants in hempy. You'll run into problems if you're up near 7 or down near 5. As I said, I have been growing in hempy using liquid testers without much of a problem.
 

shaun2000

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You are correct, 5.8 is just about ideal for hydroponics in general. The beauty of hempy is that it is almost as forgiving as soil, so you do not have to be so precise. A difference of .2 PH in either direction (5.6-6.0) is fine for your plants in hempy. You'll run into problems if you're up near 7 or down near 5. As I said, I have been growing in hempy using liquid testers without much of a problem.
Yeah , Im using my liquid tester atm, Since my ph pen Broken, The little node actually shattered :(. I Just Want to make sure this seedling survives till its roots hit the res, Been a long time since i had to think about ph tbh :)

The main issue i have with the liquid testers is it seems to be abit vauge, i guess im going for a yellowish green, apposed to a darkish green right?
 

lamopa

Active Member
Yeah , Im using my liquid tester atm, Since my ph pen Broken, The little node actually shattered :(. I Just Want to make sure this seedling survives till its roots hit the res, Been a long time since i had to think about ph tbh :)

The main issue i have with the liquid testers is it seems to be abit vauge, i guess im going for a yellowish green, apposed to a darkish green right?
6.0 in the liquid tester is almost a piss yellow.
 
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