House Republicans vote to cut Social Security for 11 million Disabled Americans

FlyLikeAnEagle

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats appear to have little recourse against a House of Representatives rule change that could prompt a steep cut to Social Security disability benefits next year, congressional aides said on Monday.

The new legislative rule, pushed through with little notice last week, would prohibit a routine transfer to the Social Security Disability Trust Fund, which is expected to be depleted by late 2016.

Without an injection from the main Social Security retirement fund, the disability program would have to cut benefits by some 20 percent, only paying out what it can collect from payroll taxes.

Congress approved the last such "reallocation" transfer in 1994 after several in the 1980s under President Ronald Reagan.

Republicans say they passed the rule change to force reforms to the disability program, which they claim is rife with fraud and mismanagement. Democrats, unable to stop the shift, have called it a "stealth" move to cut benefits.

On Monday, Senate Democrats issued a plea to Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to oppose an "audacious" rule change that would "hold hostage" benefits for some 9 million disabled Americans.

"It only increases the chances of yet another unnecessary manufactured crisis, akin to shutting down the government or threatening the full faith and credit of the United States," Richard Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Senate Democrat, and seven others wrote in a letter to McConnell. They asked him to "forcibly reject" the change.

McConnell has not commented on the request, but Republican aides say there is little he can do about a legislative rule passed in the House. Since revenue measures must originate in the House, the House rule would ensure that a routine transfer could not take place.

A Democratic aide on the House Ways and Means Committee acknowledged that not much can be done about the rule change until 2016, when the disability fund is close to depletion and an election-year showdown over benefit cuts could occur.

Republican Representative Sam Johnson, of Texas, who authored the rule change, said it was meant to protect Social Security retirement benefits from being "raided" by the "fraud-plagued disability program" and to encourage reforms.


Little recourse seen for Democrats on Social Security rule change - Yahoo News
 

londonfog

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats appear to have little recourse against a House of Representatives rule change that could prompt a steep cut to Social Security disability benefits next year, congressional aides said on Monday.

The new legislative rule, pushed through with little notice last week, would prohibit a routine transfer to the Social Security Disability Trust Fund, which is expected to be depleted by late 2016.

Without an injection from the main Social Security retirement fund, the disability program would have to cut benefits by some 20 percent, only paying out what it can collect from payroll taxes.

Congress approved the last such "reallocation" transfer in 1994 after several in the 1980s under President Ronald Reagan.

Republicans say they passed the rule change to force reforms to the disability program, which they claim is rife with fraud and mismanagement. Democrats, unable to stop the shift, have called it a "stealth" move to cut benefits.

On Monday, Senate Democrats issued a plea to Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to oppose an "audacious" rule change that would "hold hostage" benefits for some 9 million disabled Americans.

"It only increases the chances of yet another unnecessary manufactured crisis, akin to shutting down the government or threatening the full faith and credit of the United States," Richard Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Senate Democrat, and seven others wrote in a letter to McConnell. They asked him to "forcibly reject" the change.

McConnell has not commented on the request, but Republican aides say there is little he can do about a legislative rule passed in the House. Since revenue measures must originate in the House, the House rule would ensure that a routine transfer could not take place.

A Democratic aide on the House Ways and Means Committee acknowledged that not much can be done about the rule change until 2016, when the disability fund is close to depletion and an election-year showdown over benefit cuts could occur.

Republican Representative Sam Johnson, of Texas, who authored the rule change, said it was meant to protect Social Security retirement benefits from being "raided" by the "fraud-plagued disability program" and to encourage reforms.


Little recourse seen for Democrats on Social Security rule change - Yahoo News
Republicans hate the disabled
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
oh noes!

democracy in action!

how terrible!

inB4 "teh republicans cheated to win a majority in the congress!!"
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Im totally sick of these freeloaders
Disabled my ass. Get a job.
Kids? they need to get out there and earn a living as well.
Screw the old.
Detroit!
Probably all of those muslims
they just move here to game our disability system
it is part of their duty as muslims in their worldwide global takeover agenda
fucking dearborne!
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
Republicans say they passed the rule change to force reforms to the disability program, which they claim is rife with fraud and mismanagement.
So, instead of working with the Republicans to enact the reforms they deem necessary, they will focus on the rule change so they can bleat their false outrage.

Sounds about right.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
There is another option.

Those that feel bad for somebody can always help them of their own accord can't they?

Although sometimes the coercive government prevents that too.



Charity does not come from the barrel of a gun.
 

ttystikk

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrats appear to have little recourse against a House of Representatives rule change that could prompt a steep cut to Social Security disability benefits next year, congressional aides said on Monday.

The new legislative rule, pushed through with little notice last week, would prohibit a routine transfer to the Social Security Disability Trust Fund, which is expected to be depleted by late 2016.

Without an injection from the main Social Security retirement fund, the disability program would have to cut benefits by some 20 percent, only paying out what it can collect from payroll taxes.

Congress approved the last such "reallocation" transfer in 1994 after several in the 1980s under President Ronald Reagan.

Republicans say they passed the rule change to force reforms to the disability program, which they claim is rife with fraud and mismanagement. Democrats, unable to stop the shift, have called it a "stealth" move to cut benefits.

On Monday, Senate Democrats issued a plea to Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to oppose an "audacious" rule change that would "hold hostage" benefits for some 9 million disabled Americans.

"It only increases the chances of yet another unnecessary manufactured crisis, akin to shutting down the government or threatening the full faith and credit of the United States," Richard Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Senate Democrat, and seven others wrote in a letter to McConnell. They asked him to "forcibly reject" the change.

McConnell has not commented on the request, but Republican aides say there is little he can do about a legislative rule passed in the House. Since revenue measures must originate in the House, the House rule would ensure that a routine transfer could not take place.

A Democratic aide on the House Ways and Means Committee acknowledged that not much can be done about the rule change until 2016, when the disability fund is close to depletion and an election-year showdown over benefit cuts could occur.

Republican Representative Sam Johnson, of Texas, who authored the rule change, said it was meant to protect Social Security retirement benefits from being "raided" by the "fraud-plagued disability program" and to encourage reforms.


Little recourse seen for Democrats on Social Security rule change - Yahoo News
This is what happens when stupid people vote for those who say they're out to destroy how our government works.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
This is what happens when stupid people vote for those who say they're out to destroy how our government works.

If government works by taking things from one party (absent their consent) and redistributing it to other parties...

What do we call that when you or I do it? Theft.

How is it "working" when government does it, but theft when you or I do it?
 

ttystikk

Well-Known Member
If government works by taking things from one party (absent their consent) and redistributing it to other parties...

What do we call that when you or I do it? Theft.

How is it "working" when government does it, but theft when you or I do it?
Do you use roads? How about energy? Airports? All of these and much more infrastructure was built through government involvement and is maintained the same way. Do you benefit from a safe and stable environment to go to work and do business? That would be defense spending.

The notion that government is automatically bad is categorically wrong and is only advanced by those who would seek to control government for their own ends and not the common good.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Do you use roads? How about energy? Airports? All of these and much more infrastructure was built through government involvement and is maintained the same way. Do you benefit from a safe and stable environment to go to work and do business? That would be defense spending.

The notion that government is automatically bad is categorically wrong and is only advanced by those who would seek to control government for their own ends and not the common good.
How is spending money you don't have good for everyone?
 

BigEasy1

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Disability has turned into yet another scam. I think the benefits should be cut. I grew up with a fucker that came from a family of deadbeats. He's been on SSI his entire life. He's "disabled" because of anxiety. He gets anxious in groups of people. I'm like "who da phuck doesn't"? Yea, he's never held a job due to his disability. I was in a war and every crowd I'm in I'm constantly doing threat assessments but yet I get my ass up every damn morning and go to work. Have been for 25 years.
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
Disability has turned into yet another scam. I think the benefits should be cut. I grew up with a fucker that came from a family of deadbeats. He's been on SSI his entire life. He's "disabled" because of anxiety. He gets anxious in groups of people. I'm like "who da phuck doesn't"? Yea, he's never held a job due to his disability. I was in a war and every crowd I'm in I'm constantly doing threat assessments but yet I get my ass up every damn morning and go to work. Have been for 25 years.
PTSD is an automatic qualifier for SSDI Disability. You just need to fill out some paperwork to get free monies!! You can also have a job and still get disability too. Also, since you are on disability you automatically qualify for MEDICARE!!

IF you get Disability you can start getting all sorts of credit cards in your name, just never pay them off, EVER. People on Disability as a sole source of income are judgement proof, i.e. even if you get sued and a judgement is against you for any amount of money, you will never have to pay for it since it would be against the law to have to give any amount of your disability benefits up to anyone for any reason, ever. So even if a court fines you money, you won't have to pay. If you are judgement proof, then those people you owe money to won't even take you to court since they already know it would just costs them a whole bunch of money and they would have no legal recourse to collect at any time. This is the law. They can't garnish shit, if they try, you take them to court and get a good lawyer and sue the pants off of them. You won't have to pay for your lawyer since you are on disability and will automatically qualify for in forma pauperis which is a fancy way of saying you are too poor to pay, so legal services are free.

I know a few Millionaires who collect SSDI, one lost his arm and another is blind. SSDI doesn't count your main home, primary vehicle, and any amount of money in a trust against you as disqualifiers for benefits.

Its almost as if the system was designed to be gamed.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
If government works by taking things from one party (absent their consent) and redistributing it to other parties...

What do we call that when you or I do it? Theft.

How is it "working" when government does it, but theft when you or I do it?
reported as spam.
 

FlyLikeAnEagle

Well-Known Member
PTSD is an automatic qualifier for SSDI Disability. You just need to fill out some paperwork to get free monies!! You can also have a job and still get disability too. Also, since you are on disability you automatically qualify for MEDICARE!!
If you think its so easy to qualify maybe you should try it and see just how easy it is. 80% of all claims are denied and the average time to get approved is approximately a year and a half. Furthermore, ALL approved claims must be approved by a doctor hired by the govt. Maybe you should tell those 2000 people that die every year waiting to be approved just how easy it is to get. Oh wait, you can't, they're dead.
 

FlyLikeAnEagle

Well-Known Member
Disability has turned into yet another scam. I think the benefits should be cut. I grew up with a fucker that came from a family of deadbeats. He's been on SSI his entire life. He's "disabled" because of anxiety. He gets anxious in groups of people. I'm like "who da phuck doesn't"? Yea, he's never held a job due to his disability. I was in a war and every crowd I'm in I'm constantly doing threat assessments but yet I get my ass up every damn morning and go to work. Have been for 25 years.
You go to work as a doctor? You must since you seem to know who is able and unable to work.

It takes a special kind of sociopath to want to cut benefits to every disabled person in the country cause you 'know someone'.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
You go to work as a doctor? You must since you seem to know who is able and unable to work.

It takes a special kind of sociopath to want to cut benefits to every disabled person in the country cause you 'know someone'.
I know a whole family of disability deadbeats. Anthony the guy who used to live next store gets disability for his bad back, I used to think of that everytime I seen him on his trampoline.

Not everyone on disability is a fraud though, the majority of them are disabled
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
If you think its so easy to qualify maybe you should try it and see just how easy it is.
Where did I say it was easy to get? Quote that part for me please.
I said that PTSD is an automatic qualifier, YOU WILL NOT BE TURNED DOWN!
Do you know what PTSD is or are you pretending I didn't say it?

That was an easy strawman to defeat.
Try again?
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Do you use roads? How about energy? Airports? All of these and much more infrastructure was built through government involvement and is maintained the same way. Do you benefit from a safe and stable environment to go to work and do business? That would be defense spending.

The notion that government is automatically bad is categorically wrong and is only advanced by those who would seek to control government for their own ends and not the common good.
 
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