Hot Shot strip, Mighty wash, forbid, SNS 217 Spider Mite Control or Liquid Ladybug??

TwistedEvil

Member
I know everyone has a 'favorite'/one they swear by, so could I get some knowledge/opinions/FACTS on these products please?

Thanks
 

HeyWood Jablowme

New Member
no pest strips don't work,mighty wash works if your vigilant,currently trying sns209 systemic,also dunking plant in water before going into flower to wash all borg's away.
forbid,expensive and toxic,liquid lady bug,didn't see great results.
 

dbkick

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all you need to know is mighty wash in flower. I've recently changed my mind in veg and decided poisons were gonna be my best option, systemic poisons , like forbid I suppose (I haven't really looked into any yet other than ortho max malathion , which was kinda recommended by a friend). I've looked into alternatives to the expensive hydro store lineups, just look at the active ingredients in those products and hit up the home depot for something similar (and more than likely weaker) that has the same ingredient.
 

pharmacoping

Active Member
whoaaaaooooo dudes. gas the room with 10kppm c02 and everything that breathes oxygen above the grow medium dies. then do it in a couple days again. If you only have a couple plants crack the tank in a sealed plastic bag, mattress bag, zip lock etc and that works too.

pest strips are like dusting your room with raid constantly, and toxins have no place in medicine...we get nuff that in our foods !

stay safe
peace
 

dbkick

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whoaaaaooooo dudes. gas the room with 10kppm c02 and everything that breathes oxygen above the grow medium dies. then do it in a couple days again. If you only have a couple plants crack the tank in a sealed plastic bag, mattress bag, zip lock etc and that works too.

pest strips are like dusting your room with raid constantly, and toxins have no place in medicine...we get nuff that in our foods !

stay safe
peace
I'm talking poison in veg, given the time anything is gonna break down to nothing. Hell there was a study about them spraying tobacco with bayer tree and shrub. The results were that there was no hazard.
 

dbkick

Well-Known Member
and I'm thinking potential exposure to 10k ppm of co2 puts you more at risk(not to mention your plants) than smoking a j that had a systemic poison used on it in veg.
 

pharmacoping

Active Member
I'm talking poison in veg, given the time anything is gonna break down to nothing. Hell there was a study about them spraying tobacco with bayer tree and shrub. The results were that there was no hazard.
Yeah, they say the same with cattle and fruits/vegetables too.....you're right, what possible harm could come from a study done by "them", showing no harm at all?
My product is used by really sick people for healing. many are immune deficient. these people and their physicians demand an organic product, as do I, and so should you, because I want you to live along healthy life, with no extra chromosomes.

peace
 

dbkick

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oh, you want organic, I just paid 180 bux for a quart of pyganic ec 5, shits 100 percent organic but a poison.
 

dbkick

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you use the word "caregiver" , "patient" and "compassion" a lot don't you? I can kinda tell.
 

dbkick

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I'm just wondering, were your "patients" pot smokers before the big mmj rush? Or was it truly a sickness that made them start using the drug which they wouldn't normally use for what we used to call a buzz.
 

pharmacoping

Active Member
plants love c02 for a night, and even full time at 1500ppm. All of the pros do it this way, as it's fool proof, and non toxic. We often gas our rooms this way as a preventative. it costs me an extra 1.96 in propane(powered c02 gen) to do this for one night. Our students are shown the effectiveness of this technique in a small scale zip lock with a c02 meter inside, and the spider mites that come with grow store ladybugs(for food). death occurs quickly, and we use a c02 cartridge/whippet to demonstrate. this is ideal for treating a few clones at a time in a small bag. generators are cheapest, and tanks are readily available small and large.
toxins are toxins, and leave their mark at all stages of life. None of my fruits or vegetables outside are ever "treated" either, because Ieat them, and share them, and care.
 

Geronimo420

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Mighty wash & liquid ladybug both work well in most situation. Unfortunately in case of serious infestation only the damn chemical will work & they can only be applied in veg ( Floramite , Forbid & hexygon all work ) Otherwise a full month growing nothing will have them die of hunger.
 

TwistedEvil

Member
Thanks for the input ppl. I have a sample bottle of Liquid Ladybug (2oz) and my girls are only a week old in 6" pots with FFOF and sunshine #4 mix. I just want to have something on hand in case I get mites, so I can safely control them etc. I use dawn liquid dish soap and water for aphids and fungus gnats etc on my hot pepper and tomato plants and it does fine....first grow of canna, so the mites are to canna as aphids are to pepper plants. Both are a big pain in the azz! I am not a pro and really can't afford the c02, but thx for that input.

*EDIT* Sorry, i was meaning for the adult gnat..no adults=no babies :) I use mosquito dunks and 1parts per 4 of 3% peroxide and water for larva control..works great!
 

dbkick

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the fungus gnat larvae is the problem, how do you kill them with soap and water? with mites you can use nothing but water and drown them, or suffocate the little bastards with any oil based spray but mighty wash contains no oil. But fungus gnats and aphids you have to deal with in the rootzone. I can't see how soap and water does this.
 

TwistedEvil

Member
See my edit :) Aphids on the plants themselves bro.....only have concern for fungus Gnat larva as far as in the soil bug problems. But the peroxide I use with every watering helps with fungus, molds, pests and can be beneficial for the plants health
 

dbkick

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kinda kills off beneficial bacteria in your soil though doesn't it? I assume you use synthetic nutrients?
 

TwistedEvil

Member
I have had no problems with peroxide to date. For my peppers I use moisture control MG...works just fine for a few months then I add some MG tomato plant nute when I believe the plants need it, after MG isn't feeding enough anymore
 

dbkick

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right on, I'm just trying my hand at some other things, gonna focus on peppers I think, in hydro more than likely. so anyway I put my two cents in , good luck with whatever you decide and happy growing.
 

TwistedEvil

Member
There is always the 'true young scientists' in any grow group, but I don't have the funds for this and that etc.. In the end, my peppers and 'basic care system' works great...plenty of good healthy plants and pepper yields ;) This being my first canna grow, it seems like the Mighty Wash gets a lot of good reviews for effectiveness and safety for the plants.
 
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