Hot Shot Pest Strips: Comments and Observations

dray86man

Active Member
Been doing a lot reading in this Bugs subforum on spider mites; thanks to everyone who's posted a lot of good information.

I keep coming back to threads that just rave about the Hot Shot No Pest Strips, and wanted to add a bit about how they work and how many to use.

HOW MANY PEST STRIPS SHOULD I USE ?


I kept my mother plants in a grow closet overnight this summer when they weren't out on the deck in full sun. The were placed in this 200 cubic foot closet that contained TWO pest strips (shown here w/ only one of the plants):




The HotShot Pest Strip packaging states the product is effective in 900-1200 cubic foot. Assuming 1000 cubic feet as a recommended volume since it's a nice round number, two HotShots in my 200 cubic foot closet is TEN TIMES the recommended dosage.

1000/200 = 5 times a concentrated for one strip.

Wow. That's really gassing the shit out of the plants. Little wonder I never saw a mite.

THEN, I moved the three mother plants into my main grow room that contained only two HotShots:



Within a week, a sharp-eyed neighbor spotted....SPIDER MITES on one of the plants. If one plant is infected, what do you think the chances are that all three are infected? Pretty substantial.

Hmmmmm....how big is the grow room? It's about 800 cubic feet, and only contained two HotShots, so I did a bit of an experiment.

I brought the visibly infected plant back up to the grow closet and, treated once w/ Aza Max, and let it sit in there for a week, w/ 18 hours of light and full ventilation. For 6 hours a day, the lights & ventilation would shut off, leaving the plant to get the shit gassed out of it, which is illustrated in the first pic in this post.

The main grow room plants? I did nothing but place four, FRESH new Hot Shots in the room, and stuffed two old ones into the room's supply air duct. We know that for every 200 cubic feet of space, one Hot Shot strip provides FIVE times the recommended dose, so the four fresh HotShots provided five times the recommended doseage during the six hours of no lights/no ventilation, and a bit less during lights and ventilation due to the air exhaust.

Results? Both the main grow room plants and the grow closet plants are completely mite free.

TO SUMMARIZE

1. Hot Shot No Pest Strips are an effective spider mite control if used correctly.

2. Using one strip per 200 cubic feet of grow space seems to provides good overall mite control. Infected plants can be treated w/ an appropriate spray and then isolated in a smaller space that contains two strips per 200 cubic feet of grow space.

3. The active ingredient in Hot Shot No Pest Strips is Dichlorovos, an organophosphate insecticide. The strips work by evaporating/off gassing the Dichlorovos into the room air. Rate of of gassing is dependent upon temperature, humidity, and air movement. These strips are designed for use in ENCLOSED spaces such as closets, garages, attics, etc., so a ventilated room (like our grow rooms) will cause the Dichlorovos to evaporate more quickly. Instructions state user should change every four months, or when effectiveness wanes. I'm changing mine very 8 weeks.

3. Toxicity: Dichlorovos is absorbed through inhalation, ingestion, and skin absorption. Wash hands thoroughly after handling. Packaging recommends spending NO MORE than four hours per day in a room being treated w/ Hot Shots No Pest Strips, however we are using them at higher concentrations, so here's the recommendation:


IF USING ONE STRIP PER 200 CUBIC FEET: Limit time in unventilated grow room to 45 MINUTES.

IF USING TWO STRIPS PER 200 CUBIC FEET: The exposure time is halved to about 20 MINUTES.

(Just don't hang out in the grow room doing bong hits and admiring your buds. Get the work done and get out.)

Overexposure symptoms are weakness, headache, tightness in chest, blurred vision, salivation, sweating, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal cramps

More on Dichlorovos:

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/dichlorvos/recognition.html
 

Don Gin and Ton

Well-Known Member
knock your ventilation off for a few hours each day for a week and it should kill off the borg. those things are toxictastic. use em and get rid.

make sure you've got the strips at canopy level or in amongst the canopy if you can.
 

dray86man

Active Member
knock your ventilation off for a few hours each day for a week and it should kill off the borg. those things are toxictastic. use em and get rid.
Right, leave them in the room ALL THE TIME. I've seen some recommendations to only place in the room when the ventilation is off. It's worth doing 18/6 in veg to get the benefit of 6 hours of still air and super-gassed plants.
 

ProfessorPotSnob

New Member
Hot Shot Pest strips are an old trick that never fails if used correct .. I began using them in the early 90s and learnt of them from Zoologists of all people ... Reptile and Bird mites are very destructive like there relatives we know so well .. I had a large reptile breeding facility and mites attacked my reptiles fierce while embedding themselves under scales and in time my Pythons and Dragons would have died from the plague ..

I tried alot of methods that failed and wound up speaking with the leading Vet at the local Zoo and he instructed me to speak with the Herp keepers there about his method using Pest strips .. I was instructed to keep a piece of a strip in a perforated container or more according to cage size ... I was amazed when in 3 days my facility was free from the little feckers and my animals healthy again ..

Thats when I realized this would work for other mites , I have been using them when needed in the grow room and have never looked back , the active ingredient Dichlorvos is rarely ever found in lab samples and if it is by the time a second test is ran it will evaporate off the surface of such tested material . My lab friend has never seen this in any of his years of med testing but found remnants of other shit people use ..

Bottom line you have to do the math as stated above and fumigate the room usually more than once and may need to buy several replacement strips as they loose there initial strength in a few days , I throw them out after 4 days ...

Got mites and nothing else has worked now and they are SuperMites ? Follow this thread and youll be mite free in no time .. The Dichlorvos attacks the mites and works evertyime if used properly , the little feckers will start spinning and falling on there backs in no time if used as advised .. Below is some info to straighten the Idiots who will speak otherwise with no education themselves .. Might as well know the facts yourself ..........

Dichlorvos or 2,2-dichlorovinyl dimethyl phosphate (Trade Names: DDVP, Vapona, etc.) is a highly volatile organophosphate, widely used as an organophosphorus insecticide to control household pests, in public health, and protecting stored product from insects. It is effective against mushroom flies, aphids, spider mites, caterpillars, thrips, and whiteflies in greenhouse, outdoor fruit, and vegetable crops. It is also used in the milling and grain handling industries and to treat a variety of parasitic worm infections in dogs, livestock, and humans. It is fed to livestock to control bot fly larvae in the manure. It acts against insects as both a contact and a stomach poison. It is available as an aerosol and soluble concentrate. It is also used in pet collars and "no-pest strips" as pesticide-impregnated plastic. In this form it has recently been labeled for use against bed bugs
The United States Environmental Protection Agency first considered a ban on DDVP in 1981. Since then it has been close to being banned on several occasions, but continues to be available. Major concerns are over acute and chronic toxicity. There is no conclusive evidence of carcinogenicity to date, however a 2010 study found that each 10-fold increase in urinary concentration of organophosphate metabolites was associated with a 55% to 72% increase in the odds of ADHD in children.[SUP][1][/SUP]
Dichlorvos is absorbed through all routes of exposure. Since it is an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, its overdose symptoms are weakness, headache, tightness in chest, blurred vision, salivation, sweating, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal cramps.
Dichlorvos damages DNA of insects in museum collections.[SUP][2][/SUP]
 

SS68396331

Active Member
If used as instructed, these work well. I use them, one at a time. BUT I just haven't found a better solution. I also use redwood and cedar shavings in the room, a natural deterant to insects/spiders.. and sanitation of course. Havent seen so much as a web or even a gnat. AS pescribed they have minimal risk.. putting 2,3..4 in a small room..100ft2 might raise the concentration levels up high enough to be unhealthy. AS with most things..MOST.. follow the directions..in this case, more is not better.
 

dray86man

Active Member
Great informative post too. :weed:
Thanks; appreciate ALL comments and ALL experiences w/ Hot Shot Pest Strips.

I've a formal background in bio & chem. Couple that w/ an obsessive stoner (Us? Obsessive? Never...) and I tend to research the shit outta stuff. I must've put in 40+ hours or more of reading and studying before I even considered growing.
 

dray86man

Active Member
The dreaded Spider Mites -

My favortite solution - Introduce Ladybirds or similar predators!

www.naturescontrol.com
www.multicult-hydroponics.co.uk
I certainly considered predator insects as a control. I settled on Dichlorovos for consistency and/uniform dosing & control, though I really dig the idea of the pesky little fuckers being devoured by what to them is a huge, snarling beast w/ bloody great jaws.
 

Don Gin and Ton

Well-Known Member
man f@ck those predator mites. i paid a load for 2 lots and never found a single one at the end of the grow. i was expecting to find the biggest fattest pred mite and nadda. and still had mites to boot.

i hear lady bugs are better but i think it's a bit cruel. besides you burn more than you save
 
hey i just bought the hot shot strip should i put in at the canopy of my tent please let me know right now its low on the floor in my tent in the corner?
 

dray86man

Active Member
And be sure to set ventilation to turn off when lights are off so the tent stays "sealed" w/ the D'Vos gas inside to kill the mites.
 

Confusedone

New Member
F that shit man!!! I don't want poison air around my buds all the time ever! I treat my plants when they are not in flower and or if needed in early flower and hang the non toxic sticky yellow strips for white flys. If you keep getting mites you should figure out if you are to unsterile to grow. Don't give me any of that poisoned air bud PLEASE!!! It will absorb right into the trics and bud leaves for sure and I don't like to burn poisons and then inhale them much less be in an inclosed room doing my farming, which takes more than 45 mins here and there. Hey dude, when your lungs don't work and or your vision goes call and ask for a refund!! LOLOL.. REally dude that is stupid.!
 

Confusedone

New Member
This kind of guys bud is why You never buy from people you don't know and or see the grow. Does anyone really think that a room filled with toxic gasses won't be absorbed by the buds your buddy here would give or sell u to smoke???? Scary!!!!
 

Confusedone

New Member
Please don't let others smoke your stuff!! I hope everyone that knows you knows what you grow. Poison yourself but don't share your stuff with healthy people!! Stupid is a part of life but there is no cure for it. WoW!!!!



Been doing a lot reading in this Bugs subforum on spider mites; thanks to everyone who's posted a lot of good information.

I keep coming back to threads that just rave about the Hot Shot No Pest Strips, and wanted to add a bit about how they work and how many to use.

HOW MANY PEST STRIPS SHOULD I USE ?


I kept my mother plants in a grow closet overnight this summer when they weren't out on the deck in full sun. The were placed in this 200 cubic foot closet that contained TWO pest strips (shown here w/ only one of the plants):




The HotShot Pest Strip packaging states the product is effective in 900-1200 cubic foot. Assuming 1000 cubic feet as a recommended volume since it's a nice round number, two HotShots in my 200 cubic foot closet is TEN TIMES the recommended dosage.

1000/200 = 5 times a concentrated for one strip.

Wow. That's really gassing the shit out of the plants. Little wonder I never saw a mite.

THEN, I moved the three mother plants into my main grow room that contained only two HotShots:



Within a week, a sharp-eyed neighbor spotted....SPIDER MITES on one of the plants. If one plant is infected, what do you think the chances are that all three are infected? Pretty substantial.

Hmmmmm....how big is the grow room? It's about 800 cubic feet, and only contained two HotShots, so I did a bit of an experiment.

I brought the visibly infected plant back up to the grow closet and, treated once w/ Aza Max, and let it sit in there for a week, w/ 18 hours of light and full ventilation. For 6 hours a day, the lights & ventilation would shut off, leaving the plant to get the shit gassed out of it, which is illustrated in the first pic in this post.

The main grow room plants? I did nothing but place four, FRESH new Hot Shots in the room, and stuffed two old ones into the room's supply air duct. We know that for every 200 cubic feet of space, one Hot Shot strip provides FIVE times the recommended dose, so the four fresh HotShots provided five times the recommended doseage during the six hours of no lights/no ventilation, and a bit less during lights and ventilation due to the air exhaust.

Results? Both the main grow room plants and the grow closet plants are completely mite free.

TO SUMMARIZE

1. Hot Shot No Pest Strips are an effective spider mite control if used correctly.

2. Using one strip per 200 cubic feet of grow space seems to provides good overall mite control. Infected plants can be treated w/ an appropriate spray and then isolated in a smaller space that contains two strips per 200 cubic feet of grow space.

3. The active ingredient in Hot Shot No Pest Strips is Dichlorovos, an organophosphate insecticide. The strips work by evaporating/off gassing the Dichlorovos into the room air. Rate of of gassing is dependent upon temperature, humidity, and air movement. These strips are designed for use in ENCLOSED spaces such as closets, garages, attics, etc., so a ventilated room (like our grow rooms) will cause the Dichlorovos to evaporate more quickly. Instructions state user should change every four months, or when effectiveness wanes. I'm changing mine very 8 weeks.

3. Toxicity: Dichlorovos is absorbed through inhalation, ingestion, and skin absorption. Wash hands thoroughly after handling. Packaging recommends spending NO MORE than four hours per day in a room being treated w/ Hot Shots No Pest Strips, however we are using them at higher concentrations, so here's the recommendation:


IF USING ONE STRIP PER 200 CUBIC FEET: Limit time in unventilated grow room to 45 MINUTES.

IF USING TWO STRIPS PER 200 CUBIC FEET: The exposure time is halved to about 20 MINUTES.

(Just don't hang out in the grow room doing bong hits and admiring your buds. Get the work done and get out.)

Overexposure symptoms are weakness, headache, tightness in chest, blurred vision, salivation, sweating, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal cramps

More on Dichlorovos:

http://www.osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/dichlorvos/recognition.html
 

Don Gin and Ton

Well-Known Member
the amount of exposure the buds get will not harm you at all. they aren't radioactive, they don't have a half life. simple science applied logically proves you wrong.
 

dray86man

Active Member
F that shit man!!! I don't want poison air around my buds all the time ever! I treat my plants when they are not in flower and or if needed in early flower and hang the non toxic sticky yellow strips for white flys. If you keep getting mites you should figure out if you are to unsterile to grow. Don't give me any of that poisoned air bud PLEASE!!! It will absorb right into the trics and bud leaves for sure and I don't like to burn poisons and then inhale them much less be in an inclosed room doing my farming, which takes more than 45 mins here and there. Hey dude, when your lungs don't work and or your vision goes call and ask for a refund!! LOLOL.. REally dude that is stupid.!
I don't bust this out very often, but with an undergraduate degree in biology AND chemistry, and a master's degree that included studies in toxicology, I know more about this subject than you do.

Period.

The Dicholorvos will NOT produce "poisoned air buds" (whatever the fuck THAT is), since the chemical is very volatile and does not absorb or adsorb onto the plant material.

(If you need an explanation of volatile chemicals and their behavior, my hourly rate to tutor the less-scientifically enlightened is 30 bucks an hour with a two hour minimum.)

Peace.
 
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