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mr2shim

mr2shim

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nontheist said:
He puts too much stock into stupid fucks like pelosi and biden and refuses to lean center and get congress working. That's it in a nutshell I have nothing against Obama except he is a poor leader and hammering on MMJ. He has good character and attitude he really seems like a cool guy but that don't put food on the table.
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You're relying on a politician to put food on your table? He can't make Republicans pull their heads out of their asses. You can lead a horse to water... Republicans in congress have stated NUMEROUS times their only objective is to make Obama a one term president. Yet, you blame him for not being able to get them to meet in the middle. Are you THAT stupid?

What do you propose? He start giving handys to everyone to get them to play along?
 
desert dude

desert dude

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mr2shim said:
You have yet to provide one legitimate reason as to why you're not voting for him. You did however post some pretty racist remarks. You yourself don't even know why you're not voting for him. All you do know is that he's black and a socialist just like your buddy Rush Limbaugh has told you.

I can tell you right now why I'm voting for him. Our economy is on the upswing. Sure it may be slow, but it is a lot better than it was 4 years ago. We've been gaining jobs every month for 2.5 years. How is that not progress? Is it not good enough? Are you not voting for him because he didn't have the economy fixed in 3 weeks? That and I'd rather not take a change with another Republican. See where the last one got us.
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My first rule of voting is: never vote for an incumbent, so Barack could never get my vote for a second term.

My second rule of voting is never vote for a Democrat or a Republican. Admittedly, I would relax that rule for Ron Paul and a few (very few) other Republicans. Off-hand I can't think of ANY Democrat who deserves to be in office, though. I am not familiar with all Democrats, though, so there might be a few who I would consider worthy of my vote.

One of the main reasons I detest liberals is the constant stream of ugly accusations: "You're a racist because you disagree with me, and you get your marching orders from talk radio", yada yada yada.

You guys live in an ugly, distasteful, and fearful world.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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desert dude said:
One of the main reasons I detest liberals is the constant stream of ugly accusations: "You're a racist because you disagree with me, and you get your marching orders from talk radio", yada yada yada.

You guys live in an ugly, distasteful, and fearful world.
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one of the main reasons i detest conservatives is the constant stream of ugly accusations: "you're a communist because you disagree with me, and you get your marching orders from obama", yada yada yada.

you guys live in an ugly, distasteful, and fearful world.
 
nontheist

nontheist

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UncleBuck said:
one of the main reasons i detest conservatives is the constant stream of ugly accusations: "you're a communist because you disagree with me, and you get your marching orders from obama", yada yada yada.

you guys live in an ugly, distasteful, and fearful world.
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We can't ignore the fact that some liberals are just fucking retarded ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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abandonconflict

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althor said:
Here are three very LEGIT reasons.

1. During Obama's reign the 2 parties are as seperated as they have ever been. Every past president was able to come up with compromises to get what he wanted passed. Even the dreaded George W. Bush couldnt have done what he did without the help of the Dems. I just dont see him managing to get back in the type of graces he needs to be in to get things done. Look at the book coming out and recently released audio transcripts from Obama admitting that had he known Ryan was attending the meeting he never would have said the things he said. "it was a mistake". I dont think Obama can fix the seperation that he has largely caused.
2. Obama has no idea how to fix the economy. Erskine Bowles pointed out how Obama's budget plan wasnt even taken seriously and voted down 97-0. Where as he praised Ryan as being a sincere guy who wanted to fix the economy.
3. Obama's energy plan is hurting much more than helping at this point. Basically any thing that requires coal is off the table. He said something like we arent saying people cant open businesses using coal, we will just fine them so much they will go bankrupt.
This is something we have to get a grip on. Yes, we are tearing up the earth and destroying the atmosphere and depleting resources. Thats what population does. We have 4 billion people on the planet and we live the way we do. The only thing that is going to change the consumption of resources is awhole lot less people consuming those resources. By all means spend money on research to lead to more environmental friendly energy sources in the future. Right now, we have to do what we have to do. If we blow out the ozone, whats the worst that happens? Alot of people die, the earth repairs itself, and things start over. Isnt that what most liberals want anyway?
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1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc

2. See my response to 1.

3. Did a few billion people die?
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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kelly4 said:
Damn, I came late to another one of Cheesy's raceism debates...:cry:
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What's raceism? Do you use firefox? You do realize it has spell check. It doesn't take more than a few seconds to right click and correct your misspelled word.
 
nontheist

nontheist

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mr2shim said:
My posts seem to get ignored my conservatives, must be too much truth for them to handle.
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No we don't ignore it, it's pretty obvious Obama is a poor leader but you will have none of it regardless of how poor of a job he does. You're right up there with Chesus and Bucky believing in unicorns and leprechauns.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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nontheist said:
No we don't ignore it, it's pretty obvious Obama is a poor leader but you will have none of it regardless of how poor of a job he does. You're right up there with Chesus and Bucky believing in unicorns and leprechauns.
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You have yet to answer my question actually. It's ok, I can tell that's your thing. You have yet to give one legit reason as to why he's a poor leader. I don't really expect you to.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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nontheist said:
No we don't ignore it, it's pretty obvious Obama is a poor leader but you will have none of it regardless of how poor of a job he does. You're right up there with Chesus and Bucky believing in unicorns and leprechauns.
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no we don't ignore it, it's pretty obvious romney is a poor leader but you will have none of it regardless of how poor of a job he did. you're right up there with beenthere and red1966 believing in unicorns and leprechauns.
 
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