HLG vs HGL Side By Side Take 2

Picking up from where we left off.

There are 2 Girls Gone Wild #1's My #2 looks like the photo but #1 is different. Ill show later.
And 2 HeavyDutyFruity x SweetTooth. These plants are dry in the pics but are pretty even in all ways. They are same cut from same mom taken on the same day. They all just started getting nutrients besides CloneX or water & are looking to get growing.
New x3 coat paint job with white Panda divider. Each side being an even 5'3" x 4'3" 18" manufacturer recommended growing height. Am currently Running the QB Trinity around 36" Using a 320w power draw. Goes up to 528w & all the way down to 202w. That's using the screw on the driver. Im running the Trinity Protype here guys. Not the actual production model. HLG said that will be different with more Beef & a few other things. But the proto will emit the same light.
He asked to wait till this wknd to show it awaiting Patent to go through even though its the proto.

Running x3 of the x4 , Penetrator 84x HGL'S for a total draw of 472w.

Side By Side Parameters:

• LIGHTS: will be divided at all times

HYDROGROW LED = X4 , 84X models
https://www.hydrogrowled.com

Horticultural Lighting Group = QB Trinity 520
Releases in July
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com

Flower Area: 4x4

MEDIA: CycoPearl Coco switching to Canna at transplant with mild ETC Amendment.

Nutrients: TechNaFlora + Mag

Strains to select from if both dont fit.

- Girls Gone Wild (pheno #1) = GirlScoutCookies (forum cut) x Blueberry Muffin

- HeavyDutyFruity x SweeTooth
Been attacked by a rare alien root bug recently that yellowed her leaves but heres the mom:
No root bug will get me again. Eerrrggg!!!
Co2 : Yes

Style : -Double Trellis support / Bush
-hand water
-drain to vac/waste

Potts: 6"-1 gall to 2-3 gall to 7 gall

Feel free to ask if there's any questions or if missed anything .

HLG Trinity @ 35" centered HGL 84x in that 3 light configuration. All 3 on, about 17".
And a 2' reading.
Dropped the Trinity down to 32" .
Stays around 300 on the corners.
These reading are taken dimmed to 320w.

Is it straight to flower or is there a veg period hybridway?

Following

Do you want questions here or would you like to start a new thread for the questions as not to clog this thread up ?

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Why do you have different height measurements for each brand?

The HGL you did a 17”, 2 foot

HLG you did 35” and 32”

Makes no sense

Nice light readings. Following.

Why do you need to run the blurples 132 watts harder and at almost half the distance do they lack in intensity or penetration?

Can we see a pic of the HLG light please?

ill follow along with your journey

diggs99 said:

Can we see a pic of the HLG light please?

ill follow along with your journey

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He said he'll post pics this weekend after HLG clears that.

Axion42 said:

He said he'll post pics this weekend after HLG clears that.

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Thanks

coreywebster said:

Is it straight to flower or is there a veg period hybridway?

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Yes, aprox one mo left of veg. Transplanting to 3's shortly.

boilingoil said:

Do you want questions here or would you like to start a new thread for the questions as not to clog this thread up ?

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Questions here are fine, commentary about anything not directly pertaining to the grow, not so much. If a comment is irrelevant to the grow id luke it to not be posted here. Thank you for asking! Discussion should take place on the original shot up thread pls. That way i know where to go to read peoples opinions n such.

BMWEATER said:

Why do you have different height measurements for each brand?

The HGL you did a 17”, 2 foot

HLG you did 35” and 32”

Makes no sense

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I am to follow manufacturers reccomendations. Although 18" was causing light stress on them, preventing growth, so they are at 2' now & plants are happy. I will try to lower closer to 18" as the plants toughen up.
The hgl 2' readings are similiar to the hlg 36" readings.

kotobide said:

Why do you need to run the blurples 132 watts harder and at almost half the distance do they lack in intensity or penetration?

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X3 lights is needed to cover those plants, happens to be 475 w.
The Trinity covers all the plants with 320w @ the manufactures recommended height of 30-36".
Will have a tape measure out on them later today.

Today
Clones seem to be enjoying themselves.

Hang height and light engine spacing can change yield/watt,.. but yield/μmol will be less affected by these variables.

(Total grams of cannibinoids) / (cummalitive μmol of DLI including veg).
^^If this metric were being measured, the community could glean a benefit of one SPD over another, regardless of chip manufacturer, or flux binning, or light engine spacing, ect. A bit ahead of where we're at, but itd be sweet to have the cannibinoid % tested (maybe the manufacturers would throw down on it).

That's all I wanted to say, I'll be watching whatever the method ends up being, keep it up!

This is how the girls for each side are today.
32" centered (no lenses)
HLG HGL (each plant 24" hight, centered under a 84x w/ lenses x3 & overlapping light pattern)
Plants on both sides appear happy here. Im sure as they become more acclimated they will take more just as a good girl should.

ChiefRunningPhist said:

Hang height and light engine spacing can change yield/watt,.. but yield/μmol will be less affected by these variables.

(Total grams of cannibinoids) / (cummalitive μmol of DLI including veg).
^^If this metric were being measured, the community could glean a benefit of one SPD over another, regardless of chip manufacturer, or flux binning, or light engine spacing, ect. A bit ahead of where we're at, but itd be sweet to have the cannibinoid % tested (maybe the manufacturers would throw down on it).

That's all I wanted to say, I'll be watching whatever the method ends up being, keep it up!

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Id love to get the thc,cbd,n, cannabinoid test done. There is a timelapse camera HGL sent that ill be setting up asap.
Rn they are pretty even par but that will change soon because i am to follow the recommendations of the manufacturers.
Who knows, maybe Stephen will ask fir a 750 umol reading on his veg plants to? Only time will tell. Today however, they will be growing at equal umols centered. Tom is another story .