Hey old farts..how many over 50 yrs?

GroErr

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I just heard some Dr. talking about the opioud epidemic on the news that Cannabis was a gateway drug to opium addiction.

WTF? I thought Dr. Son-jay Gupta put that one to bed years ago.

I drank snitched beer & cig's wayyy before I saw my first weed.
Whether Dr.'s, cops, or politicians, ignorance and ignoring facts seems to be the call of the day when it comes to MJ. If anything it could be a much less risky and healthier replacement for some patients using opioids #$@%
 

haight

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I remember Steve Martin having some fun with how we use Shit as a placeholder word.

"I visited the turd museum. Hey don't laugh, they have some neat crap in there.
You know, I hear that some of this Shit is very valuable"
That's shit for the birds
 

ttystikk

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Whether Dr.'s, cops, or politicians, ignorance and ignoring facts seems to be the call of the day when it comes to MJ. If anything it could be a much less risky and healthier replacement for some patients using opioids #$@%
Conservatives tend to ignore facts. It appears to be endemic to the mindset.
 

ttystikk

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I thought it was Mother's milk that led to it. I've been smoking for over 50 years and no opium addiction yet. I wonder when I'm supposed to become addicted.
Weed is my main DEFENSE against opioids; on several occasions after surgery of various kinds, I've been prescribed various opioids. I hate them, they don't work well, i have nasty side effects like constipation...

Weed just flat works better as a pain medication for me.

So much for the gateway drug theory.
 

babe

Member
I'm past 63. Didn't expect life to be the way it was, not just for myself, but for every body I knew in my age group. What they did to us was reprehensible, so I see that they pretty much made up for it as far as people behaved reasonably.
 

haight

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I'm past 63. Didn't expect life to be the way it was, not just for myself, but for every body I knew in my age group. What they did to us was reprehensible, so I see that they pretty much made up for it as far as people behaved reasonably.
Exactly what did they do to us? We have it a hell of a sight better than our parents, grandparents and great-grandparents.
 

haight

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No, I don't think the current generation has it better than their parents, at least not here in the States. That hadn't been true for 40 years now, ever since the Regan Revolution. Coincidence? I think not!
C'mon. I've outlived all my grandparents thanks to a better diet, medical care and education. Two years pat the age my dad made it to and 9 more years to out live mom. Autos are safer, medicine is far better and rotary phones are history. Air conditioning, cable TV and municipal spraying of mosquitos. Some of that may sound petty but the quality of life is better because of it.
 

ttystikk

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C'mon. I've outlived all my grandparents thanks to a better diet, medical care and education. Two years pat the age my dad made it to and 9 more years to out live mom. Autos are safer, medicine is far better and rotary phones are history. Air conditioning, cable TV and municipal spraying of mosquitos. Some of that may sound petty but the quality of life is better because of it.
The average American is not more prosperous than their parents anymore. In fact, health statistics clearly show a peak and a decline in life expectancy and some populations in America have an even lower life expectancy than some third world countries.

Air conditioning and the XBox doesn't address that.

Subjectively, my eldest grandparent made it to 104, ten and a half months of age. I'm not expecting to better her mark!
 

greg nr

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When I graduated, I worked for a company who's founder said he didn't employ people to build products, he built products to employ people. He lived that philosophy, refusing to lay anyone off even when times got rough, until the board finally was able to retire him. That world died a long time ago. Loyalty once meant something, and it was a two way street. Not anymore.

Now the american dream is more myth than reality. With the death of union jobs and the rise of the mba's, working hard and being smart doesn't give you much of an advantage by itself.

You have to be the product of the system; go to the right schools, work for the right companies, know the right mentors. Otherwise you will likely just be another assistant manager who might make it to headquarters some day. Maybe.

Want to start a company and make it to unicorn status? You better fit the mold or the system will chew you up and spit you out. Your ideas can still make billions, but you won't be the one with all the money.

I was a product of a golden age. That age is over. It's now the age of the mega-rich, racist, authoritarian, jingoistic, cultists (they aren't religious - that doesn't fit). If you are a part of it, you are one lucky bastard. Just like in the 1800's, but without all the opportunity of new frontiers.
 

ttystikk

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When I graduated, I worked for a company who's founder said he didn't employ people to build products, he built products to employ people. He lived that philosophy, refusing to lay anyone off even when times got rough, until the board finally was able to retire him. That world died a long time ago. Loyalty once meant something, and it was a two way street. Not anymore.

Now the american dream is more myth than reality. With the death of union jobs and the rise of the mba's, working hard and being smart doesn't give you much of an advantage by itself.

You have to be the product of the system; go to the right schools, work for the right companies, know the right mentors. Otherwise you will likely just be another assistant manager who might make it to headquarters some day. Maybe.

Want to start a company and make it to unicorn status? You better fit the mold or the system will chew you up and spit you out. Your ideas can still make billions, but you won't be the one with all the money.

I was a product of a golden age. That age is over. It's now the age of the mega-rich, racist, authoritarian, jingoistic, cultists (they aren't religious - that doesn't fit). If you are a part of it, you are one lucky bastard. Just like in the 1800's, but without all the opportunity of new frontiers.
Please repost this in my Mark Blyth economics thread in the politics section.

That works is gone, but not forgotten.

And it needs to come back if this country is to pull itself out of the nosedive it's in.

If corporations don't recognize the contributions of the citizens and consumers they employ, maybe they don't need access to our markets.

And fuck their elitist cult.
 

BarnBuster

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Hospital stays, even long ones, can be as out-patients, not in-patients, which will affect the determination as to who pays for subsequent, if needed nursing home care re:Medicare.

"Patients can appeal virtually any other claim that Medicare denies. But there’s no way to appeal observation status. Even Mrs. Niemi’s congressman, contacted by her family, couldn’t help.

But a recent ruling in a case that’s bounced through the courts since 2011 may be a harbinger of changes to come.

On July 31, a federal judge in Connecticut certified a class in a class-action lawsuit: all Medicare recipients who’ve been hospitalized and received observation services as outpatients since January 1, 2009.

That means hundreds of thousands of people, Ms. Niemi among them, will be eligible to join the suit against the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, with a trial expected next year. If the plaintiffs prevail, they’ll be able to appeal their observation-outpatient stays.
"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/health/medicare-observation-hospitals.html
 

ttystikk

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Hospital stays, even long ones, can be as out-patients, not in-patients, which will affect the determination as to who pays for subsequent, if needed nursing home care re:Medicare.

"Patients can appeal virtually any other claim that Medicare denies. But there’s no way to appeal observation status. Even Mrs. Niemi’s congressman, contacted by her family, couldn’t help.

But a recent ruling in a case that’s bounced through the courts since 2011 may be a harbinger of changes to come.

On July 31, a federal judge in Connecticut certified a class in a class-action lawsuit: all Medicare recipients who’ve been hospitalized and received observation services as outpatients since January 1, 2009.

That means hundreds of thousands of people, Ms. Niemi among them, will be eligible to join the suit against the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, with a trial expected next year. If the plaintiffs prevail, they’ll be able to appeal their observation-outpatient stays.
"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/health/medicare-observation-hospitals.html
Let's hope the long era of corporations fucking over the needy and helpless is finally coming to an end.
 

OldMedUser

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I'll be 63 mid-October and it sickens me to see what has become of our north american society.

My sons live in the first generation that is not going to benefit from the medical progression that has raised life expectancy for every generation the last 400 years, Thanks to fast food, fast lives and total disregard for the common good over maintaining corporate greed they will be dropping like flies in a DDT fog like the ones they fogged my neighbourhood with when I was a kid.

I thank Jah every day that I'm a Canadian and live in one of the top 10 safe countries in the world compared to the US that ranks 114. You poor bastards are dragging us all down with your latest ass-clown president as we all become cave-people thanks to the ignorance of 50 years of guns, bombs and dreams of world domination.

Kill the Nazis like we did in WWII and maybe Americans can sit at the table with the rest of the enlightened world.
 

ttystikk

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I'll be 63 mid-October and it sickens me to see what has become of our north american society.

My sons live in the first generation that is not going to benefit from the medical progression that has raised life expectancy for every generation the last 400 years, Thanks to fast food, fast lives and total disregard for the common good over maintaining corporate greed they will be dropping like flies in a DDT fog like the ones they fogged my neighbourhood with when I was a kid.

I thank Jah every day that I'm a Canadian and live in one of the top 10 safe countries in the world compared to the US that ranks 114. You poor bastards are dragging us all down with your latest ass-clown president as we all become cave-people thanks to the ignorance of 50 years of guns, bombs and dreams of world domination.

Kill the Nazis like we did in WWII and maybe Americans can sit at the table with the rest of the enlightened world.
We'll need to learn how to pay taxes to support the common good first.
 
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