Help :'(

Its just compost m8 nothing fancy i got told its ok untill i transplant as it already has nutes in n cheers pal ile be deffo putting in more suitable medium

Cheers mick

400w HPS is great for flowering up to 4 plants 2 - 3' tall ( yes - more light better result ) BUT that's a lil plant and it sure looks like it wanted to grow great. Daylight bulb fluorescent (HO T5 great T8 about as good w/less power and heat).
I vegged under HPS and keeping the plant compact is hard - start them in fluorescent, maybe finish a few weeks of VEG w/HPS - I recommend U look online at AG related paper's and studies like from Universities and such. You are going to get overwhelmed with BAD information on mineral/amendments and watering HERE. Truthfully I get great result with historically known farming traditions like earthworm castings (U can make for free at home BTW, has beneficial nematodes & Calcium,Magnesium ect Basically several of the 4 groups of minerals U will ever need) and other natural amendments. Maybe you will learn from your mistakes the important thing is understanding what you did or not do to create a mistake.

Oliver_Wendell_Douglas said:

400w HPS is great for flowering up to 4 plants 2 - 3' tall ( yes - more light better result ) BUT that's a lil plant and it sure looks like it wanted to grow great. Daylight bulb fluorescent (HO T5 great T8 about as good w/less power and heat).
I vegged under HPS and keeping the plant compact is hard - start them in fluorescent, maybe finish a few weeks of VEG w/HPS - I recommend U look online at AG related paper's and studies like from Universities and such. You are going to get overwhelmed with BAD information on mineral/amendments and watering HERE. Truthfully I get great result with historically known farming traditions like earthworm castings (U can make for free at home BTW) and other natural amendments. Maybe you will learn from your mistakes the important thing is understanding what you did or not do to create a mistake.

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So Olly you think we don't know what we're doing hmmm lol



I'm just messing with ya, welcome aboard.

Your dirt is too compact, i don't see any aeration, i bet that is drowning from lack of oxygen to the roots, get a better potting mix and reduce watering a bit. Also looks like heat stress, back your light off.

Already backed off light m8 and cheers will get a better medium asap

Cheers oliver i will deffo do more research thank for the advice

Well. When you wake up. And it smells like smoke very strong from friends toking . second hand before work. And its to damn early . its not hard to make a mistake. .

Cheers for all the help guys the problem seems to be my light distance an maybe need to aeerate medium i must of gone full retard having the light 8inch also near the end of 18 hr temps are going from 76 to 85f is this ok or should i maybe run light at night as i dont want temps to plummet to harshly

carl reddock said:

also near the end of 18 hr temps are going from 76 to 85f is this ok or should i maybe run light at night as i dont want temps to plummet to harshly

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well, what are your night temperatures?
I like to keep the day-night temperature difference within 10 degrees of each other (but I use centigrade, not sure how much that is in F).
Also, 85°F is a tad hot. Is that measured at plant height?

Yes thats measured at canopy top and when i go to bed i got the heating on a timer to kick in after lights as its like -1c outside i have it on 65f

-1c holy shit , I run mine at night for that reason plus there are other benefits also like off peak hours on utility's

carl reddock said:

Yes thats measured at canopy top and when i go to bed i got the heating on a timer to kick in after lights as its like -1c outside i have it on 65f

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Yeah best thing you can do then is switch to night light like Bareback.
I've done it too for the same reasons in the past and was very happy I did!

Just let them run dark after lights out until the new on time (so they get one very long night).
Plants aren't bothered at all by the change either

Ahh ok i will do cheers i was worried about shock due to sudden light cycle change but keeping them dark until the new cycle makes sense

Is it ok to switch from hps to cfl in veg as ive been told hps isnt suitable for veg only flower or will this stress plant

carl reddock said:

Is it ok to switch from hps to cfl in veg as ive been told hps isnt suitable for veg only flower or will this stress plant

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some very bad advice . you can veg with any spectrum you want and switch them from 6500 or what a lot of us use today 7200k . and throw a 2700 k hps on top of the plant . there will NOT be any stress to the plants . as long as the time of day is steady 24/7 or 18 /6 no harm . this is done a lot with my friends . and a lot of people veg with hps with great results .

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Is it ok to switch from hps to cfl in veg as ive been told hps isnt suitable for veg only flower or will this stress plant

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I have used hps from start to finish . It's not perfect but it works. The worst part for me was the stretch and the heat .

Yeah not good as long as there happy for now i had a few problems with temps too but i manage to stabalize but now they seem to be growing bushy not taller a little slow too

Cheers bryan i have the red spectrum light tho not blue is this bad

no not at all . the plants might have a little bit more stretch . no big deal . I will say plants grow a lot faster under a 7200 because in veg the plants like that added blue spectrum . . but some people swear by using hps in veg . lot of people use hps . so is it wrong to use them in veg . no . keep them rocking .