Help with advanced nutrients

Strain: The Incredible Bulk
Can anyone tell me what's going on here? I use R/O 0ppm
Connessuier a+b
Voodoo juice
Bud ignitor
B-52
Big bud
Bud candy
Nirvana
Sensizym
Rhino skin
Bud factor X
All have been used since the beginning of bloom (as suggested on bottle) and this plant is currently at day 21.
Grown in 5gal buckets (with plenty of holes drilled in them 50+ each) with pro-mix HP top fed with 1 quart nute solution a day.

This is the third time I've grown this strain. The first time they made it to about day 50 before any sign of burn or deficiency then they started to spot and turn yellow (from the top). At that same time summer was just starting to hit and my room was warmer than I wanted and I just attributed everything to that.

Second time growing the strain temps were way too high and humidity got out of control due to me not wanting to run my ac to help keep my electric bill down. Every strain I had was burnt and spotted with yellow leaves at this point.

Somewhere between the first and second grow of this strain I added a few more additives to my line up and sorry I'm not exactly sure which ones at this point but it was the rest of the additives I didn't have.

After the second grow I decided to turn the ac back on and the room has been holding steady at 78.

Now that I'm having these problems in my 3rd grow with this strain I've come to realize that all those additives probably aren't necessary and I've dropped my concentrations to half only using base a+b, big bud, b-52, bud candy, and rhino skin.

About a week ago I quit feeding this strain any nute solution in fear that they're in a lock out and just started feeding RO water. Half a gallon once a day but I'm still seeing the progression of the brown spots and "burn". HELP!

I also have blue kush, critical cure cbd, and a no name purp strain with a STRONG blueberry smell and taste that are still being fed the 1/2 concentrate nute solution and they're loving it with no signs of any burn or deficiency.

Sorry for all the detail and rambling but I wanted to be as specific as possible so I can get the best diagnosis possible.

a lot of information in your post but nothing pertinent. first off, dump the bullshit well marketed nutrient solutions and get basic. also, why spend all that money on nutes and bitch out on the ac? guess some people like burning money.

It seems like the same condition I get into when I mix vodka,gin,rum,whiskey and a few beers all in one day everyday...
I too get sick and die

fandango said:

It seems like the same condition I get into when I mix vodka,gin,rum,whiskey and a few beers all in one day everyday...
I too get sick and die

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Lol yea I guess it does look rather 'systematic'. The splotching usually is something micro related, which could come from def or toxicity of.... Lots of stuff

420texan710 said:

Strain: The Incredible Bulk
Can anyone tell me what's going on here? I use R/O 0ppm
Connessuier a+b
Voodoo juice
Bud ignitor
B-52
Big bud
Bud candy
Nirvana
Sensizym
Rhino skin
Bud factor X
All have been used since the beginning of bloom (as suggested on bottle) and this plant is currently at day 21.
Grown in 5gal buckets (with plenty of holes drilled in them 50+ each) with pro-mix HP top fed with 1 quart nute solution a day.

This is the third time I've grown this strain. The first time they made it to about day 50 before any sign of burn or deficiency then they started to spot and turn yellow (from the top). At that same time summer was just starting to hit and my room was warmer than I wanted and I just attributed everything to that.

Second time growing the strain temps were way too high and humidity got out of control due to me not wanting to run my ac to help keep my electric bill down. Every strain I had was burnt and spotted with yellow leaves at this point.

Somewhere between the first and second grow of this strain I added a few more additives to my line up and sorry I'm not exactly sure which ones at this point but it was the rest of the additives I didn't have.

After the second grow I decided to turn the ac back on and the room has been holding steady at 78.

Now that I'm having these problems in my 3rd grow with this strain I've come to realize that all those additives probably aren't necessary and I've dropped my concentrations to half only using base a+b, big bud, b-52, bud candy, and rhino skin.

About a week ago I quit feeding this strain any nute solution in fear that they're in a lock out and just started feeding RO water. Half a gallon once a day but I'm still seeing the progression of the brown spots and "burn". HELP!

I also have blue kush, critical cure cbd, and a no name purp strain with a STRONG blueberry smell and taste that are still being fed the 1/2 concentrate nute solution and they're loving it with no signs of any burn or deficiency.

Sorry for all the detail and rambling but I wanted to be as specific as possible so I can get the best diagnosis possible.

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First you are mixing organic nutrient with chemical nutrients : chemical use your Bud factor X (in flower) Rhino skin in flower anlong woth Big bud, bud candy, B-52 and Bud ingitor. - You do know that each nutrient has it's on "time-frame" to use ) when to use them?. Also need not feed plant every day: a plant needs one just water day and also dry periods in a 7 day ccyle. Do you feed every day? Nutrient should be used at reduced rates 1/2 amounts - you will find that Less is Best when it comes to nutrients

Yeah way to much crap you will be surprised what just a three part nutrients will do drop the additives and see we're you stand

Where's your cal/mag? Is it in the nutes?
Also you're using promix and watering everyday. It's not coco. Promix needs to dry out completely before saturating it. Repeat.

mista32 said:

Yeah way to much crap you will be surprised what just a three part nutrients will do drop the additives and see we're you stand

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I agree a good tea and a good 3 part will work fine (cal-mag is good) (super thrive is good (Great White also)

Always had those same issues when I ran AN in RO water.. Now I just run it in my tap water which is around 117 ppm and I rarely will ever go over half what their recommended strength says. Also, if you're using RO you 100% need Cal-Mag.. I give full feeding of Cal mag in RO

Do you use cal/mag with your tap water?

Chef420 said:

Do you use cal/mag with your tap water?

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Yes I still use Cal-Mag with my tap. But instead of me using the full 5mL per gallon, I use 2mL per gallon. So my 2 buckets take 10g of water each and I'll add 20mL to each.

RO is better in the long run if you can manage it but I always had issues running RO with dwc. Tap hasn't failed me yet, but then again my tap water ppm is only 100 so it's pretty nice

Qronyq said:

Yes I still use Cal-Mag with my tap. But instead of me using the full 5mL per gallon, I use 2mL per gallon. So my 2 buckets take 10g of water each and I'll add 20mL to each.

RO is better in the long run if you can manage it but I always had issues running RO with dwc. Tap hasn't failed me yet, but then again my tap water ppm is only 100 so it's pretty nice

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Should try to get a copy of your cities water report and see how much cal/mag it has. Should shoot for about 100ppm Ca in your final mix- 5ml/gal CALiMAGic adds about 75ppm. Add too much and you might start knocking nutrients out of the solution (precipitate).

Ok, you read the bottles wrong, Voodoo Juice and Bud Ignitor are only for the first 2 weeks, B52 doesn't start until the second (and vitamins do NOTHING for roots, that myth is based on an experiment disproved about 30 years ago), Senzizym is for breaking down dead roots in your growing medium which sounds great for coco, but we're in water. Anything comes off the roots it's gone next flush, enzymes have nothing to do. Voodoo Juice is pretty useless in DWC also for the same reason.

Advanced Nutrients have a nutrient calculator that tells you what to use and when on their website, http://www.advancednutrients.com/nutrient-calculator/

Personally I've read a few bad reports on Bud Candy affecting taste, Nirvana and Bud Factor X sound like pure BS, I'm using Sensi with Big Bud, Overdrive and Rhino Skin for my next.

You shouldn't need calmag with AN, it's supposed to be built in.

Oh sorry...thought you were going to ask for help paying for the overpriced nutes and I was going to suggest gofundme.com.

Wow where to start,I'll start with your water,why are you using RO water,is your water well water or high ppm city water ? as long as your water is 100 ppm or less there is no need to run RO.

Watering the plants,in soil its best to water each plant when the soil is completely dry when sticking your finger down a couple inches into the soil,not a hard nailed regime where you give them a measured amount of water every watering,you should be watering until water flows from all drain holes on the bottom,then waiting to rewater until the top 2-3 inches are bone dry.

The Advanced Nutrient line is the worst nutes any newish grower could ever chose to grow with,AN took the NPK needed & broke it down to its smallest elemental formulas,which makes creating an excess of 1 nute or the other very easy to do,I can't remember what's in all those bottles of AN sauce but for budding all you need to feed the plants is the complete spectrum of micros & the PK sauces,if I was in your shoes I'd stop feeding AN nutes for 10 days,then buy a quart of GH flora micro & a quart of GH flora bloom .

If you can't afford to run the AC to keep humidity at 30%-20% & temps below 80 degrees its in your best interest to keep the ppm below 500,then only feed every 10-14 days.

IMO. Too much RO. Add calcium.
http://www.growweedeasy.com/calcium-deficiency-cannabis.
Good luck

Qronyq said:

Always had those same issues when I ran AN in RO water.. Now I just run it in my tap water which is around 117 ppm and I rarely will ever go over half what their recommended strength says. Also, if you're using RO you 100% need Cal-Mag.. I give full feeding of Cal mag in RO

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always let tap water sit out for 24hr to "de-nature" it - before use