Help to choose clones on this diagram please!!!

arkandsaw

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bigsteve said:
It's an indica, looks like some kind of kush. Wait a couple weeks before taking clones from her.
She is only about a month old and too young.

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Hey Big Steve,
Thanks for the advice. That is just what I am going to do. I am going to wait a few weeks. The plant is actually a seed that I ordered from Nirvana. It is Chrystal. People talk smack about Nirvana but the AK & the Chrystal that I ordered from them all came to fruition.

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Nirvana Chrystal is a White Widow hybrid that has been re-back-crossed with Northern Light. Two world-famous marijuana strains! Its big sticky buds give off an almost kerosene-like aroma and produce a quick-hitting high. An F1 hybrid, Chrystal produces outstanding yields of top quality grass. Its plants are much easier to manicure than White Widow. Chrystal was a first place winner of the Dutch Highlife Cup ( a renowned marijuana competition) in 2002.
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arkandsaw

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crazyhazey said:
coming from the person who calls people out on the angle they cut clones at, this means alot. forget it though, this is a waste, this guy needed help and i dont wanna take over this thread with petty arguments.
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Don't worry about taking over the thread with an argument. That is usually the only way a thread stays alive lol Thanks again to all of you for the advice.
 
xxxcmackk

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if anybody remembers ,buddy asked a question........i would say yes to raising the light,,,my opioion only,,this is a sensitive thread lol... if your growing that plant as a mother for cloning..just to get it a bit taller and open her up some..
 
arkandsaw

arkandsaw

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xxxcmackk said:
if anybody remembers ,buddy asked a question........i would say yes to raising the light,,,my opioion only,,this is a sensitive thread lol... if your growing that plant as a mother for cloning..just to get it a bit taller and open her up some..
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Not being real experienced but using common sense cmack, that seems like the right think to do. I agree. Thanks bro. Anyone else have an insight?
 
spitsbuds

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ok i know its of topic(but i will go get you some good cloning links op) i just want to say. that crazyhazy is a credit to riu. ive can get many thread up and show you in great detail were he as helped many a new growers with good solid advice backed up by links if needed and is always patient in his responses even how daft the q might seem to some or even if the op is having a hard time understanding. he is actually mt first stop of if i need help. im not saying everything he puts up is gospel(figure of speech). cause anyone with any growing exp knows what works for might not for another. but then there is basic proven facts we must all learn to grow successfully
 
crazyhazey

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spitsbuds said:
ok i know its of topic(but i will go get you some good cloning links op) i just want to say. that crazyhazy is a credit to riu. ive can get many thread up and show you in great detail were he as helped many a new growers with good solid advice backed up by links if needed and is always patient in his responses even how daft the q might seem to some or even if the op is having a hard time understanding. he is actually mt first stop of if i need help. im not saying everything he puts up is gospel(figure of speech). cause anyone with any growing exp knows what works for might not for another. but then there is basic proven facts we must all learn to grow successfully
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thanks spitsbuds, i completely agree forum knowledge can be spotty but i wont say anything unless ive seen good results or scientific proof like you said, some people just need to start arguments, i even told this guy i was done but he wanted to keep going. guess we all know haters gonna hate.
 
spitsbuds

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np hazy credit were due.
https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/50073-cloning-subcool-redundant-explanation-pictures.html
another link from this site. that just back up hazy info op. i know he as covered most points. but is just good to see another exp grower(even is haters carnt deny is exp) confirm what been said.
superstoner maybe a better reply would have been or ok i been cutting at 90 and here are my results on why i think it might be more beneficial. what have you noticed why 45. then as a community we might all can learn something. just my opinion thou
 
arkandsaw

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spitsbuds said:
ok i know its of topic(but i will go get you some good cloning links op) i just want to say. that crazyhazy is a credit to riu. ive can get many thread up and show you in great detail were he as helped many a new growers with good solid advice backed up by links if needed and is always patient in his responses even how daft the q might seem to some or even if the op is having a hard time understanding. he is actually mt first stop of if i need help. im not saying everything he puts up is gospel(figure of speech). cause anyone with any growing exp knows what works for might not for another. but then there is basic proven facts we must all learn to grow successfully
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Thanks guy! I really appreciate the help.
 
arkandsaw

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crazyhazey said:
thanks spitsbuds, i completely agree forum knowledge can be spotty but i wont say anything unless ive seen good results or scientific proof like you said, some people just need to start arguments, i even told this guy i was done but he wanted to keep going. guess we all know haters gonna hate.
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Do you agree I should lift the lights for a week or so?
 
crazyhazey

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arkandsaw said:
Do you agree I should lift the lights for a week or so?
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depends what you mean when you say lift the lights clones wont need much light really, i just use 2 t5s or 2 42w cfls and keep em about 4 inches away from the lid of my dome. you can have too much light for them but its pretty hard to, if they do have too much light they'll curl up in a few minutes.
 
arkandsaw

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crazyhazey said:
depends what you mean when you say lift the lights clones wont need much light really, i just use 2 t5s or 2 42w cfls and keep em about 4 inches away from the lid of my dome. you can have too much light for them but its pretty hard to, if they do have too much light they'll curl up in a few minutes.
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No, no. I mean should I lift the lights on the plant that you see pictured to allow it to stretch a little before taking clones? It is extremely bushy.
 
crazyhazey

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arkandsaw said:
No, no. I mean should I lift the lights on the plant that you see pictured to allow it to stretch a little before taking clones? It is extremely bushy.
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tight internodal space is usually a good thing, if they're too bushy its even better for clones honestly. it kind of depends what kind of light your under too, you could just switch spectrums to around 2500k so they give you the before flower stretch, keeping your lights further from your plants isnt usually good, if you can get as many lumens as possible itd be suggested to do so, and maybe train her if your tired of dealing with a bushy plant.
 
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crazyhazey said:
and to the op, you dont want these types ruining your thread even if it keeps it alive, they'll call out people and call their advice "rocket science". the point is, by doing a 45 degree cut you expose the inside of the stem where roots come from, by cutting off leaves, you take whatever energy was stored, so keep as many as you can. if you want them to harden off, crack open that dome after about 7 days so they know they cant use their leaves to feed off moisture for much longer, then they'll know they have to put off roots to feed. clones will die here and there, i dont care how good you are at cloning, i come from a long line of growers and even they know that.
it should take 7-12 days to get roots, 14 at most with the more sensitive strains.
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even though this guy clearly thinks he knows the best procedure for everything.... may i make a suggestion... when taking clones, i would cut branch like "j" at 45* right below a node. then pull the leaf off of this bottom most node. scratch up the stem with a knife or scissors (only where it will be in the dirt). dip in your rooting hormone and plant. then cut the tips off of the leaves. yes, i said CUT THE LEAVES! since they won't be able to pull as much energy from the leaves as they are now cut, the roots will form faster. keep your dome at 100% humidity by spritzing the dome, not the plants! the method i have quoted above seems like my way, except he's just waiting for the tips to die so that the clone produces roots instead of clipping the leaves off to start with! and hey, crazyhazey, you sound smart, and i see you like to pick fights. i'm not trying to fight, i'm just trying to offer some help! which i believe is what superstoner was trying to do in the first place!
 
crazyhazey

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reese123 said:
even though this guy clearly thinks he knows the best procedure for everything.... may i make a suggestion... when taking clones, i would cut branch like "j" at 45* right below a node. then pull the leaf off of this bottom most node. scratch up the stem with a knife or scissors (only where it will be in the dirt). dip in your rooting hormone and plant. then cut the tips off of the leaves. yes, i said CUT THE LEAVES! since they won't be able to pull as much energy from the leaves as they are now cut, the roots will form faster. keep your dome at 100% humidity by spritzing the dome, not the plants! the method i have quoted above seems like my way, except he's just waiting for the tips to die so that the clone produces roots instead of clipping the leaves off to start with! and hey, crazyhazey, you sound smart, and i see you like to pick fights. i'm not trying to fight, i'm just trying to offer some help! which i believe is what superstoner was trying to do in the first place!
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where did i say this is the best procedure? im glad you didnt put it as "blah 45 degrees blah pierce that blah blah rocket science", sorry if i take that as coming off as arrogant(saying i believe my method is the best however, is a tad arrogant), i dont appreciate arrogance after i take my time to post to help somebody. as for cutting leaves on clone, i dont see why anyone would do this, more leaves are always better than less leaves, and by popping the lid after about 7 days you let them know they cant use those leaves to feed off humidity, forcing them to put off roots rather than cutting off something they'll need once theyve got roots. taking off leaves is like taking away the only food they have once they're cut off the plant, im not gonna keep explaining this. as for the 45 degree thing, im sure superstoner would tell you your over-complicating things, and how his only proof is saying "i take thousands of clones, but only 1 has died", lol give me a break dude. kind of odd you show up in his defense too, out of all the threads you could have gone to, just sayin ghost accounts seem to be a huge problem on here especially for those with the ego of a child, so tell me superstoner, why couldnt you just post your method rather than trying to call me out? seems a little bit suspicous, especially how you come to a thread with a grunge against me for no apparent reason, just saying.
and no need to put things in capitalized letters, i can clearly read.
 
Dalek Supreme

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crazyhazey said:
where did i say this is the best procedure? im glad you didnt put it as "blah 45 degrees blah pierce that blah blah rocket science", sorry if i take that as coming off as arrogant(saying i believe my method is the best however, is a tad arrogant), i dont appreciate arrogance after i take my time to post to help somebody. as for cutting leaves on clone, i dont see why anyone would do this, more leaves are always better than less leaves, and by popping the lid after about 7 days you let them know they cant use those leaves to feed off humidity, forcing them to put off roots rather than cutting off something they'll need once theyve got roots. taking off leaves is like taking away the only food they have once they're cut off the plant, im not gonna keep explaining this. as for the 45 degree thing, im sure superstoner would tell you your over-complicating things, and how his only proof is saying "i take thousands of clones, but only 1 has died", lol give me a break dude. kind of odd you show up in his defense too, out of all the threads you could have gone to, just sayin ghost accounts seem to be a huge problem on here especially for those with the ego of a child, so tell me superstoner, why couldnt you just post your method rather than trying to call me out? seems a little bit suspicous, especially how you come to a thread with a grunge against me for no apparent reason, just saying.
and no need to put things in capitalized letters, i can clearly read.
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Sorry op for hijack
I have to try this Crazyhazy because I notice the quicker to root has more leaf I left on...thks
disregard fools too......
 

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Dalek Supreme said:
Sorry op for hijack
I have to try this Crazyhazy because I notice the quicker to root has more leaf I left on...thks
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exactly what ive been trying to tell these dumbasses. ill get back to acquiring currency now haha love the pic btw.
 
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reese123

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crazyhazey said:
where did i say this is the best procedure? im glad you didnt put it as "blah 45 degrees blah pierce that blah blah rocket science", sorry if i take that as coming off as arrogant(saying i believe my method is the best however, is a tad arrogant), i dont appreciate arrogance after i take my time to post to help somebody. as for cutting leaves on clone, i dont see why anyone would do this, more leaves are always better than less leaves, and by popping the lid after about 7 days you let them know they cant use those leaves to feed off humidity, forcing them to put off roots rather than cutting off something they'll need once theyve got roots. taking off leaves is like taking away the only food they have once they're cut off the plant, im not gonna keep explaining this. as for the 45 degree thing, im sure superstoner would tell you your over-complicating things, and how his only proof is saying "i take thousands of clones, but only 1 has died", lol give me a break dude. kind of odd you show up in his defense too, out of all the threads you could have gone to, just sayin ghost accounts seem to be a huge problem on here especially for those with the ego of a child, so tell me superstoner, why couldnt you just post your method rather than trying to call me out? seems a little bit suspicous, especially how you come to a thread with a grunge against me for no apparent reason, just saying.
and no need to put things in capitalized letters, i can clearly read.
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i hope you are not implying i am a "ghost account". i came here to learn as much as i can. next time i clone i am going to cut half of them, and leave the others and see which roots faster. i have always agreed that you should leave as many leaves on the plant as possible, however, the person who told me to use this cutting method has grown for a decade, and has some very impressive walking sticks made from stems (the root ball at the top of the walking stick is about the size of my fist). so i think he knows what he's doing. of course there are always going to be people who prefer different methods, i was just offering another option.
 
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