Help Rust spots yellow tips and holes...

smokeybandit22

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the problem with the constant drip is the soil stays saturated and there is not enough oxygen in the root zone nor the water to keep the roots happy. I think you are bteer off with DWC but if you insist on the constant drip you should add a stone bubbler to the resevoir to keep the water oxygenated. but I'm sure a constant drip in soil is a no no. Even with rockwool cubes, they get fed 2 times a day. ROOTSW DO NOT LIKE DAMP AND WET FEET. even Ebb & Flow which is more like what you are doing with the constant drip is done only 2x daily. pick yourself up a ph kit from the pet store-it will have a tester along with ph up and ph down to make your adjustments. why mess with lime juice? get your self a cheap timer too and forget the constant drip-look around this forum under hydro grow and I doubt you will see anyone that uses a constant drip.
and yes foliar feeding with nutes WITH THE LIGHTS ON will def burn the plants.

epsom salts 1 teaspon per gallon heated and boiled in water first, than cooled and than administer.
 

ma5terdp

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its not soil setup it would be pellets... in a strainer basket.. over a tubby with tub half filled with nut n water.. and baskets drain into tubby and a constant flow of fluid on the pellets.. dudes a professional hydro dude he owns the shop he said its fine cuzz the pellets disperses the water and run into the tub... is the guy full of crap??
 

smokeybandit22

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correct, this is not a constant drip. it has an airstone and pump if I am seeing this pic correct. and this set up looks like it is strictly for DWC-deep water culture or bubbleponics. I am pretty sure you do not need a drip if the roots are sitting in the water. If you drip, the roots may not grow down into the solution as they will not need to seek out water. there are a gazaalion way to grow hydroponically with many diff combinations. the theory behind DWC is that the popping bubbles sprinkle the roots and the roots are encouraged to grow down into the solution. I guess you could drip with them maybe at first but it's your call. I would be real careful about placing those roots in these net cups considering you just moved them. Dude your plants are supposfdly 2 months old and they look like 2 weeks so I am assuming they have been moved too much. Transplanting will cause the roots to go into shock for a couple of days. if the roots are too long than you can not simply just stuff them into the net cups. you may have to cut out the bottom or a portion of the bottom so they dont get crushed and go into more shock than necessary.
DWC plants will grow much faster than any other method but there are many caveats-the res temps cannot exceed 75 degrees, the bubbler can not lose power for more than an hour, it is easy to burn your plants and you must be very strict in measuring the ph and ppm's. again, go pick up a cheap ph tester kit-and use distilled water or if using tap than you must check the ppm's. a cheap ppm meter is an absolute necessity when growing with DWC.
take some pics of the plants again and also the roots when you take them out of soil and I can help you further. I also suggest a 3 part nute and not all in one b/c your plants need diff levels of nutes during veg, ending veg, entering flower and full flowering. a one bottle ix will def have too much nitrogen when you dont want it during flowering. you can get by with the nutes you have now but when you get close to flowering you must change it. This dude at the store should know all this-it is common knowledge and is posted everywhere on RIU. ask him what the benefits of an all in one solution is versus seperate and see what he says. simple. ask him 'dont my plants need less nitrogen and more potassium and phosporous when flowering?

more pics and I will continue helping you out. you rplants should be way bigger and you need to address these issues which i am trying to do for you. 2 months they should be presexing and starting alternate nodes, clones being taken and getting ready for flower.

anyone else reading this post disagree with what I am saying?
 

ma5terdp

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flushed em no nutes and they look like they blew up there is a big size difference... i think the mirical grow stunted em or from transplanting... i also lowered lights to 12inch from tops heat at plant is 85 degrees doesnt seem to hot.. have a fan keeping cool.. the all in one formual is a 321 or 323 whatever guy said its perfect i just need the bloom when ready.. when do you think i should start nutes.. should i do the epsom salt first without nutes or what?? do i need a bubble stone.. guy said bubble stone not needed i just have tubes on bottom of basket.. constant flow on pepples he said the airstone is just extra spray.. but isnt neeeded.. that pict was just an example of what i made minus the airstone i plan on just cloning these n put em in the hydro setup.. i dont trust myself taken em out of soil i have no clue what to do...
 

smokeybandit22

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prob 3-2-3 whic should be fine. I would do the espsom salts for 2-3 feedings and than resume nutes at 1/4 strength. an airstone will only help and for the pump and stone it's maybe $15.00. cant have enough oxygen-when the res gets too hot the dissolved oxygen goes way down and the airstone will help
 

calicat

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i've read 400 watt lights should be 4 feet away from plants. Could be light burn.

What kind of nutes are you using? You should usually use 1/4 or 1/2 strenght until plant can handle more. Also.. With soil I think you water twice then feed and repeat. How do you do the cycle?

2 1/2 months and under one foot.... Man something is serisouly wrong.

You know what strain u got? Indica or Sativa?
If you have a 400 W light at a distance of 4 ft whether it is a MH or HPS it is not putting out enough lumens to properly sustain growth.
 

calicat

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The obvious problem to your plants appearance right now is I agree with some others who have mentioned it is a medium grade Mg deficiency. If your going to feed use a nutrient cocktail that would provide it with macro and micronutrient display. If you let your plant continue to suffer without fixing it then you will eventually stunt its growth. I would suggest foliar feed spraying because for me that is the quickest way to alleviate deficiencies if soil is your medium. However it can be overdone very easy. The safest route for you would be to introduce nutrients that contain macro and micronutirents and exercise patience.
 

ma5terdp

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:clap: Here is update after flush no nutes.. lowered light to 12 inch cranked up the fan... i see a big growth improvement.. bought the epsom salt what do i do now how much do i add to a gallon??? how much do i water??? then when do i start the nutes?? Then when do u suggest i clone and put in my tubbby??? Another prob... the gnats have started to come out the dirt i sprayed rubbing alchohol on top of dirt as someone sugggested if i get sand how much do i put on top and does it really stop gnats??? this i what happen my first try and i ended up killing my ladies.. trying to fight the gnat battle cant wait to go to the dro side.. ne other suggestions and comments leave please...
 

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