Help Me Revive her Please

masterd · Sep 17, 2009

yeah washing ur hands isnt for the nico, its for everything else in the smoke leaving residue on ur fingers, nico is safe, im pretty sure theres even something in FAQ, if not youll find heaps in the forums about it....
the last forum i was in and talking about it, some dude rocked up when me or someone else recomended it he started abusing us coz hes mate told him not to smoke around the plant, used it 2 or 3 times myself, but i know people who use it all the time.

and the key to MG soil or any slow release fert, it comes out with the moisture(obvisously) but heat also brings it out, you can get nute burn from your soil being to warm, and you can get a def from being 2 cold... it funny stuff, unless you know what ur doing with it, save urself the time and the effort and go with actual nutes/fert

so if you try to flush the stuff getting it wet and warm will bring it out and then giving it another go should fix it, alternatively you can bath them for a while (i use a combo of both)

masterd · Sep 17, 2009

and ur ding leaves, first guess for a def, proabably N, but once i saw ur light setup i would have to say no light penetration, either lolipop or buy a real light

(no offence, i use cfls for veg, but they dont penetrate the plant enough during veg...) anyway nice grow cant wait to see her at the end, good luck!

wyteboi · Sep 17, 2009

cowboylogic said:
DR. DOOM BUG BOMB!!!!!! Can be used up to the last 7-10 days. DR. DOOM hates bugs!

The last 7 days for real ? i always thought them thangs were pretty safe but can you confirm 7 days from harvest is cool ? Thanks!
i just figured since the problem is so minor right now to just use neem. Either way you are good.

wyteboi · Sep 17, 2009

masterd said:
and ur ding leaves, first guess for a def, proabably N, but once i saw ur light setup i would have to say no light penetration, either lolipop or buy a real light (no offence, i use cfls for veg, but they dont penetrate the plant enough during veg...) anyway nice grow cant wait to see her at the end, good luck!

I agree , there is no problem with health , it just dont have enough light to get to all the JUNK on the bottom.

Foolieo · Sep 17, 2009

wyteboi said:
those white spots are where the lil fuckin mites ate the green outta that spot. If you have some loot , u need neem oil right away to prevent them from gettin worse. Plus they are already flowering so it needs to be done soon! (i told ya it was a girl)
Mine are so far into flower that i cant spray or anything but MY leaves are almost all white from mites , the tops of my buds are even webbed up. (thats when they are gettin BAD!)
most mites i have delt with do not kill a crop but if u dont keep them at least under control , then they start webbing all your buds up (so they cant grow like they want to.) plus the mites i have now WILL ruin a crop if i dont spray water every single day and keep temps down low as i can. I have never seen anything like the ones i have now!! In 2 days i seen them fuckers make EVERY leave on one plant white! Your do not look like that type of mite but take no chances with um. Even walmart has neem oil, well they used to. I know all the lowes an home depot has it. You need 100% neem concentrate .
mix 1/2 TB per 32oz. spray bottle and its always good to add a tsp of dish soap too. Shake real good the whole time u are spraying (cause the oil dont mix with water very well) AND MAKE SURE U SPRAY EVERY SINGLE CRACK OF THAT PLANT. (tops and bottoms) also go back about 4 days later and repeat and then do that one more time...........that should control them until harvest....
if u flip one of those leaves with spots on it upside down then u will see LOTS of eggs (an maybe some webs)

i just examined the leaves with those spots with a magnifying glass and there wasnt a single thing on the under side. I alrdy treat it with Neem oil fairly often because i do find little fruit fly looking guys around my soil some times but have never seen them take to the leaves
I also use this stuff called 1600 x-Clude. i spray that around the carpet and around the plant its self not on the actual plant

donkeyote · Sep 17, 2009

what are the temps in there, it looks awfully hot in there, especially since you have that fan blowing hot air from the lights, directly onto the plants. you need that fan down low blowing the hot air radiating from the bulbs, AWAY from the plants. Its not light penetration, Ive got 2 NL's doing just fin under 120 watts of CFL's each. There is def a problem in there. My plants are 1 and 2.5 weeks in flower after a 5 and 3 week veg, and i have not lost a single leaf yet. Go to Wal mart and spend 5 bucks on some distilled water and flush those bitches a few times and get everything back to square one.

Pics are my two plants last week under CFL's.....

Foolieo · Sep 17, 2009

donkeyote said:
what are the temps in there, it looks awfully hot in there, especially since you have that fan blowing hot air from the lights, directly onto the plants. you need that fan down low blowing the hot air radiating from the bulbs, AWAY from the plants. Its not light penetration, Ive got 2 NL's doing just fin under 120 watts of CFL's each. There is def a problem in there. My plants are 1 and 2.5 weeks in flower after a 5 and 3 week veg, and i have not lost a single leaf yet. Go to Wal mart and spend 5 bucks on some distilled water and flush those bitches a few times and get everything back to square one.

Pics are my two plants last week under CFL's.....

temps are low 80s to high 70s the fan is not blowing heat onto the plant it is blowing cold air up from the ground to the plant. i think u only looked at the first page.. Your plant is also only 1/4 the bushiness of said plant and u don't have a problem with light penetrating the canopy so the bottom wouldn't die off like mine is. Sense my bottom crap died off im really only losen maybe 1 or 2 leaves aday. and the tops are striving like a slampig a night on the town

masterd · Sep 17, 2009

yeah thats right foolio, your plant has a thicker canopy, and in his photos of te grow room, you can quite clearly see no lght penetrating through to the bottom wher the leaves are dying, its a common trade off made by plants in low light, kill the bottom to make the top thrive, hell we even replicate it by "lollipoping"

btw whyteboi, GO TRAILER PARK BOYS, ricky would have to be the smartest person on the face of this earth!...

"ive seen cats and dogs smarted than cory and trevor" - ricky

" a dope trailer is no place for a kitty" - bubbles

wyteboi · Sep 18, 2009

masterd said:
yeah thats right foolio, your plant has a thicker canopy, and in his photos of te grow room, you can quite clearly see no lght penetrating through to the bottom wher the leaves are dying, its a common trade off made by plants in low light, kill the bottom to make the top thrive, hell we even replicate it by "lollipoping"

Yes i totally agree with masterd! On your next grow go with some better soil/mix , but YOU ARE FINE right now.

masterd said:
btw whyteboi, GO TRAILER PARK BOYS, ricky would have to be the smartest person on the face of this earth!...

"ive seen cats and dogs smarted than cory and trevor" - ricky

" a dope trailer is no place for a kitty" - bubbles

yea i dont think there is a smarter human than ricky!
You my friend are the MAN for even knowing those quotes!!! :clap:

"fuck boys, i think theres a heli-cocksucker followin us" BUBBZ

"oh fuck.. purple squirrels" Ricky with the rag glued to his face

"intermediate range , surface to air nuclear shit missle" LAHEY

"We love you guys" *with their hands in the air* Corey and trevor

wyteboi · Sep 18, 2009

hey foolieo , what mix are u usin to feed ? Is it the Shultz still? Are u feeding every watering ? It dont look bad or nothin but i dont like those lil curls on the tips of leaves. Run that food shedule by me again........

Mattithius · Sep 18, 2009

the comments near the end about your cfls not being enough might just be it and or the heat issue during veg.

possible that is is a combo of the two, the heat stress looks minimal so it must be moreso the light. When you stress your plant it brings a greater possiblity of males.

To keep the male problem at bay just clone from a known female, which you might have after this.

Get that air flow right in that veg space or you are going to keep having problems though

wyteboi · Sep 18, 2009

Mattithius said:
the comments near the end about your cfls not being enough might just be it and or the heat issue during veg.

possible that is is a combo of the two, the heat stress looks minimal so it must be moreso the light. When you stress your plant it brings a greater possiblity of males.

To keep the male problem at bay just clone from a known female, which you might have after this.

Get that air flow right in that veg space or you are going to keep having problems though

There is NO heat probs, what are u guys reading? Also did u not see the BUD on there ? Male??????????
folks quit tryin to get brownie points for posting on threads u didnt even read. are u tryin to make your green line longer ?
:spew:

cowboylogic · Sep 18, 2009

wyteboi said:
The last 7 days for real ? i always thought them thangs were pretty safe but can you confirm 7 days from harvest is cool ? Thanks!
i just figured since the problem is so minor right now to just use neem. Either way you are good.

You bet Bot. It is pyrethrin, natural. Breaks down under the lights in just a few days. If its just a light infestation bombing the whole room is not needed. Get a spray can of it instead of a bomb. Give the plants a blast just before lights out. Repeat every 3 days, 3 times total to bhelp break the breeding cycle. And you are correct, neem oil works great. Used in the same way. The 3 day thing.
By the way, I think the plant looks great.

Foolieo · Sep 18, 2009

wyteboi said:
hey foolieo , what mix are u usin to feed ? Is it the Shultz still? Are u feeding every watering ? It dont look bad or nothin but i dont like those lil curls on the tips of leaves. Run that food shedule by me again........

i have been giving it the shultz bloom at full strength each time watering so far. due to water today or 2moro was going to just do tap water just got home from work will try to get some pics

wyteboi · Sep 18, 2009

Foolieo said:
i have been giving it the shultz bloom at full strength each time watering so far. due to water today or 2moro was going to just do tap water just got home from work will try to get some pics

I would go ahead and do every other water with the food. It seems to be suckin it up pretty good But we dont wont those lil tip droops to progress. :weed:

Foolieo · Sep 18, 2009

wyteboi said:
I would go ahead and do every other water with the food. It seems to be suckin it up pretty good But we dont wont those lil tip droops to progress.

its been drinking a entire gallon every 2 to 3 days. if i wanted i could really water at the end of 2 but i let it dry out good by the end of 3 im shocked at the amount its drinking. stay tuned picking threw some pics i just took.

Foolieo · Sep 18, 2009

was smoken a J taken some pics :-)

. lets here what you all think.

Im trying to figure out away to hang some lights to get to the lower canopy's not to many ideas working out

Does anyone know how to add text to a image? besides scribbles

wyteboi · Sep 18, 2009

looks real good . you need to rig up some sort of hood for those lights to reflect downwards. Hell foil is better then just being open like that. Also turn that red paint white and that will make a huge difference in light.

u can right click on the image and "open with" microsoft paint and do it that way , but thats the only way i know.

poopycheeks · Sep 18, 2009

I tried that bon-neem shit that you got and had no luck with the mites. The place that I bought that at (Mclendons Hardware) had some emergency blankets that are only $2.50 7'x6' you should invest in something reflective. I was going commando with no reflection but when I got those emergency blankets they really showed much more growth. Trust me get 2 of those and you will be amazed. http://www.mclendons.com/item.asp?sku=11098160&from=search youcan order them here. $5 and you cant go wrong. They also don't add heat like foil does.

Edit: Your Plants resemble mine, what is the strain? https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/243804-small-leave-problem.html

Foolieo · Sep 19, 2009

poopycheeks said:
I tried that bon-neem shit that you got and had no luck with the mites. The place that I bought that at (Mclendons Hardware) had some emergency blankets that are only $2.50 7'x6' you should invest in something reflective. I was going commando with no reflection but when I got those emergency blankets they really showed much more growth. Trust me get 2 of those and you will be amazed. http://www.mclendons.com/item.asp?sku=11098160&from=search youcan order them here. $5 and you cant go wrong. They also don't add heat like foil does.

Edit: Your Plants resemble mine, what is the strain? https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/243804-small-leave-problem.html

i am un sure of what strain it was. when i planted my plants i had used 2 differant seeds. some really good bag seed and some seeds from a friend who grows still unsure of eather strain. im deff going to have to invest in some kinda hood

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