HELP ME PLEASE.. my White Widow not well need info about PH solution...!

Maxzimus

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Well Anybody would help me ?? i check PH level and now i got the do some ph down stuff, i never ever done anything whit PH first time problem... so how this PH down solution works ?? wjat i have to do to get PH level down ? add this in the water and water one time or several ? do i flush first ? do i add some nutes in ph down water ? is these ph solutions strong ?? !!! God Shaken Balls Help me !!:peace:
 

Maxzimus

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I dont have a bottle or instructions :) PH is 7.0-7.6 i dont have meter, just old fashion test pack... so PH will rise again when i give nutes so it's not so bad if it get's little bit under it. solution PH down
 

Maxzimus

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but what a bout and how about that advance hyfroponic PH -down solution what i got... i think i have to flush the medium for real and then wait 1-2h and flush whit PH down solution water and then little bit nute water ?? is this grazy or not ? or just water with lemon juice or some acid like orange juice or so on.. ?? do i have to add the juice hole end time ?? coz like vingar dosent hold ph down, only just like 2-3 days, so should i water or add every water that juice or some vingar ??

And these ph solutions is they better than orcanig juice or vingar use ?
 

stumps

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I shoot for 6-6.5 ph every time. my water is 7.4-8. so I add 1-3 caps of lemon juice. My run off hasn't been higher then 7 ever. mostley it runs around 6.5. I also added 1 tsp garden lime per gal of coco mix. to help keep ph stable.
 

Maxzimus

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Nice info, but hey yu do that juice add only in the flowering ?? and hole flowering time ? and so i dont have to flush for real first just add some that stuff or juice in the water ? or is it good to flush first and then add nice ph water and then ph.ed water with nutes ?
 

Maxzimus

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not sure why you would flush You want your ph to change slowley. but thats a imo.

Well is there matter if i use Sugar or Sugar Free lemon juice ?? and is it better if i Squeeze fresh kuice from lemons or oranges ?? or can i use any juice ?

i got only 2liters watering pot's
 

WhitestOfWidows

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Best advice I can offer is a digital ph meter and a dropper pippette, how much water are you using at a time ? I use 15 litres of water and to get it down to 5.8 only takes a couple of drops, no more or the ph up has to come out , its not really that difficult , just seems it at first. when you know round about how much it takes to level off the ph of your tank, eg my tap water is 7.3 and i mix 15 litres up every week or so and to get it down i use 3 to 4 drops, ( one little teardrop out of the dripper) , at first i would use way too much and waste a lot of water and ph down, when you get the correct level add your nutes , give it a good mixing , stand for a while and test again, if its still too high , mix up some ph down and water in another tub and gradually add that to the mix, testing and stirring til you reach your desired levels . . . but of messing about but in 12 weeks time you'll be glad you took the time to learn this process, simple but effective. same goes if your too low a ph , mix some ph up in water and gradually add that to the mix , adding straight acid/alkaline can make too steep of a jump in your nutes, small bit at a time and your not wasting money or nutes . This was a technique i had to adapt as i was forever going to say 9+ or 3- , way too much up or down . . .. . its all a big learning curve, but i would highly reccomend a digi meter, cheap enough if you shop round, its the neutral calibration liquid thats expensive , but thats another story , and you should get a bottle free with the meter for first time calibtration ( instructions come with the meter too) hop;e this helps , WoW :)
 

Maxzimus

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Best advice I can offer is a digital ph meter and a dropper pippette, how much water are you using at a time ? I use 15 litres of water and to get it down to 5.8 only takes a couple of drops, no more or the ph up has to come out , its not really that difficult , just seems it at first. when you know round about how much it takes to level off the ph of your tank, eg my tap water is 7.3 and i mix 15 litres up every week or so and to get it down i use 3 to 4 drops, ( one little teardrop out of the dripper) , at first i would use way too much and waste a lot of water and ph down, when you get the correct level add your nutes , give it a good mixing , stand for a while and test again, if its still too high , mix up some ph down and water in another tub and gradually add that to the mix, testing and stirring til you reach your desired levels . . . but of messing about but in 12 weeks time you'll be glad you took the time to learn this process, simple but effective. same goes if your too low a ph , mix some ph up in water and gradually add that to the mix , adding straight acid/alkaline can make too steep of a jump in your nutes, small bit at a time and your not wasting money or nutes . This was a technique i had to adapt as i was forever going to say 9+ or 3- , way too much up or down . . .. . its all a big learning curve, but i would highly reccomend a digi meter, cheap enough if you shop round, its the neutral calibration liquid thats expensive , but thats another story , and you should get a bottle free with the meter for first time calibtration ( instructions come with the meter too) hop;e this helps , WoW :)

Than YOU very very much !! i know i have to buy one of those Digi Ph Meters. but i cant find any meter here, i have to order from graden shop. i know the meter is the best and tell me exact the ph level.. my ph was like 7.5-8, no i have flushed once and then i gave ph water with nutes and seaweed like ph 4-5 level and then PH 6.5-7 level water and this morning i gave it to my WW PH 5.5-6.5 level water and add some guano just a little bit on the soil, like 2 teaspoon.

i already got dropper pippette :) i just need the digi meter too... fuck this is ditchweed and why is so hard ?? :) lol.. i think we just give those plants too much of everything, i have seen those 2 plants ( not the problem one ) i havent give much of nutes just little bit and 99% just guano + micro elements and they are fine.. i think these hard core nutes are bad and not good in the end. i think natural, little bit nutes at time will be the best choice :) even simply chiken shit my friend have grow killer ass buds...

PH is now around 5.9-7.0 coz i dont have meter just the tips and the paper.. :( well the plant looking nice, all the tiny leaves and the tops are green, tiny leaves are dark green and the tops are just fine green, all those fan leaves are 50/50 green/yellow(ing) or Yellow or White Yellow, or 70% green and 30% yellow.

So plant look nice, only those yellowing things and the bud's are comin, little bit slow compared these 2 others they got nicely bud's and the plants are green and healty and they got almost colas there 3 weeks is almost gone since i turned 12/12

i think the White widow with problems will come to harvest but the leaves are gonna go in the vodka bottle or i make some butter, i think the buds will be nice and sweet taste kickers, but it may take little bit longer to mature to harvest. but i dont simply dont know why is that 2 other plants are nice like heavens land and this one will fuck me up :) lol... i have done same thing all of these, only the difference is i have given more veg nutes to WW. but not too much.

rep+ for advice thanks!
 

WhitestOfWidows

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No worries :) I'm no expert grower but what i have learned over the past few weeks has taught me a lot , I find you have to sit tight and wait for replies on these forums, everyone is an expert and only a few want to share the knowlegdge. I'm happpy to help where i can , and where i cant I'm happy to learn, nobody wants to seee sick plants now do they, I'm growing widow myself , and I have put her through some torment , but she's surviving and I'm gonna be so happy , but also sad when the time comes to harvest her as she's so pretty and my favourite addition to the family :), im in the middle of upping some pics now on my thread . . . . give it half hour and you can see her :) thread is in my sig . . .
 

stumps

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Well is there matter if i use Sugar or Sugar Free lemon juice ?? and is it better if i Squeeze fresh kuice from lemons or oranges ?? or can i use any juice ?

i got only 2liters watering pot's
I use Real lemon jucie I've never seen sugar free you could use any acid to lower ph. Lemon juice works good for me.
 

Maxzimus

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No worries :) I'm no expert grower but what i have learned over the past few weeks has taught me a lot , I find you have to sit tight and wait for replies on these forums, everyone is an expert and only a few want to share the knowlegdge. I'm happpy to help where i can , and where i cant I'm happy to learn, nobody wants to seee sick plants now do they, I'm growing widow myself , and I have put her through some torment , but she's surviving and I'm gonna be so happy , but also sad when the time comes to harvest her as she's so pretty and my favourite addition to the family :), im in the middle of upping some pics now on my thread . . . . give it half hour and you can see her :) thread is in my sig . . .



You Can See my thread : https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/273811-white-widow-white-rhino-one.html klick that... :) i will send some pic's soon as i can.
 

Maxzimus

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Well i think i have to lower PH a little more and give more nutes, and do one flush before nutes... leaves are yellowing and looks like she need's nutes.. or maybe she got too much... damm.. this sucks---
 

bigwheel

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I would spring for the regular old pure 100% lemon juice from concentrate. Usually around 3 bucks at the store for a big bottle. How much to use depends on the starting ph of the water you are using. My tapwater requires 1 capful of lemon juice per gallon of water. I used 2 Tablespoons for an extended period a few grows back and came within about an inch of killing them all. I think either the ph of the tapwater went down or the lemon juice got stronger during that time frame. I checked it just on a lark and the test tube showed blood red. That is a sign of real low ph on my tester. Just aint quite sure on that deal. I know its right now.
 
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