help me fellas

workin on my first round..6 purple cush in 4x4 rockwool cubes ebb&flow table..having problems.. First i got some bad advice and i was watering everyday and my ppm was a little too high.. I flushed the cubes and got my nutrients down to 1200 ppm. My question is on watering. The cubes stay wet for 2 days and fairly heavy. I figured i was over watering because they started to droop and get a yellow tint. I didnt water for 2 days..cubes still felt moist and plants still showed same signs.. they're growing and the root systems seem to be doing good..they're nice and white. So do you think it's over-watering? or should i stick with my two day schedule? my buddy used this system in the past, but he's no help lately...so i turn to you. any help would be greatly appreciated.

they dont look verry healthy to me? what do you think??

quick question: my table has plastic over the top of it so there is really now way air can get in and out of the tray.. besides the holes cut around the stems.. I think this is why the blocks stay wet so long. check the threads i posted to have a look. thanks guys

what is your ph

i,ve kept it at 5.5 when it got to 6.1 i kocked it back down

thats the one thing about RW, holds onto water all too well, as your root system grows they will suck that cube dry, the key when dealing with RW is moisture, not wet, i see that you have it covered up, its gonna stay pretty damp and humid under that poly, this only means it will stay moist for longer which is good, it shouldnt be too much longer till you get more comfortable with the cubes, one thing i did notice is that your ppms are high, no matter the meter or conversion i would let it down to 500-600, you can even let them get bigger at max them out at 1000 without a problem, less is more and half the time the plants dont even need this much, i think you did the right thing by flushing aswell as RW holds onto water, it holds onto salts better, thus skewing your readings, for example your res water will read one number but a sample from the cubes will be much higher, a monthly flush just for precaution will ensure a problem free crop. they look good and should be sorted out soon, good luck!

I'm selling this 3x3 ebon flow setup I have right was was like 300 new. I'd switch to aero save those clones an put all six of those in a rubbermaid roughneck setup, I make each aero setup for under 85 bucks and that's not penny pinching, I just don't like rockwool personally, just a couple months ago I had 12 hashberry clones in 8x8 rockwool cubes and they only needed watered once every 4 days twice a week etc. Really slow growing first 3 weeks were slow growing compaired ot my aero or even soil plants just my .02

I never check ph or ppm blah blah and always have great results.

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I kinda grow like this guy just a little better

yea dankness like i said my buddy used to grow like this he liked it i guess but he's no fuckin help anymore
i likr that setup makes more sence to me. thanks for your time guys.

in my opinion, RW should only be used for starting new plants, i only clone in them, see if they get too wet they will deprive young tender roots of much need oxygen, its better to water them a tiny bit daily then to water log them 2 times a week, for now in the tray i would hand water or daily spray the cubes just for moisture. if your tray is deep enough you put those cubes in pots of clay pellets and just flood the pots, i dont know but you have to be a true master of RW to finish a cycle without craxy lockouts and such, i dont know how they do it in slabs

here is another thought on rockwool, many of the people who i have seen on the forums who use the stuff if flooding will flood for like5 minutes, many use drippers and just a few drops a few times a day, many of us run 15min segment timers, one cycle is too much, especially this early on

no shit! its been two whole days and no water!! well i watered monday at 1:00 .. the cubes still are wet?? i mean their far from dry the tops are still damp.. roots are out the bottom of the 4x4's the new growth is looking good but the old stuff looks shitty. ebb and flow my ass i could mix up a pitcher of nutes every week pour it over the plants and that's it. what the hell??? Should i take off the cover to the table and just cover the cubes???

Simple Simple quick fix. Up the size of your rockwool cubes. Or alternatively put the rockwool cubes into some hydropots full of clayton, this will mean the cubes itself doesn't get wet directly, just off of the clayton balls getting damp.

Also, with a bigger rockwool cube you'll have a large mass meaning it'd take longer.

sorry for the rant, im baked. But hope it helped let us know

the issue here is your root system is still small, once you have a bigger root system they will suck that cube bone dry, soon you will have a bed of roots and they wont be so dependant on the RW, unless you intend on stacking that cube ontop of a larger RW slab. its very rare to see somone flood cubes , if they do they do it 1-2 times a day thats when it has a lrger root system, most people run drip systems and its so easy to hook up

your ppm seems too high to me for plants this young. I keep mine at half that when my girls are at this stage of growth. You might be experiencing and over-fert'ing problem... Good luck.

also, if you keep the RW too wet for too long over extended days, it will ROT and MOLD, and that rot and mold will transfer to your stem and eventually kill your plant as well...FYI. RW does not work well in a flood/drain system, in my opinion...

i got my ppm's down to about 750 i'll water today and let you know how things go from here i am going to change this setup however so if you have any good links for me send then please. i went with this setup because my buddy said it was an easy cleanup.its turning into a pain in the ass. but i knew this shit wasn't going to be easy im learning though thanks to all of you.

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i got my ppm's down to about 750 i'll water today and let you know how things go from here i am going to change this setup however so if you have any good links for me send then please. i went with this setup because my buddy said it was an easy cleanup.its turning into a pain in the ass. but i knew this shit wasn't going to be easy im learning though thanks to all of you.

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