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zamzia

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1.0ec in veg and 1.2ec in flower. Although some of his other grows (not posted on these boards) he has gone up higher for strains that require it. Basically, keep it low unless the plant indicates it is lacking. Better to work your way up gradually than over do it and have to deal with nute burn / stressing the plant.

zamzia
 

sqydro

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how the hell did he get in and out of that space though?? i am doing this with another level added and another 600w and white widow i think :) be sick
 

oceangreen

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Honestly, I am not impressed with this design at all. 46 with that many sites is not a big feat.

Ans so what if you need to you use more power....
 

sqydro

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Honestly, I am not impressed with this design at all. 46 with that many sites is not a big feat.

Ans so what if you need to you use more power....
yeah cos 46oz from a 600w light is everyday stuff id like to see u get half of that! the amount of plants is irrelevant he could get more off of 2 plants if he wanted hes maximising efficiancy 600w into 46oz = 2gpw+ so u show me a grow on here or anywere that breaks that with so little effort. no Ac no CO2.....man u must feel stupid now
 

Bluezdude

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yeah cos 46oz from a 600w light is everyday stuff id like to see u get half of that! the amount of plants is irrelevant he could get more off of 2 plants if he wanted hes maximising efficiancy 600w into 46oz = 2gpw+ so u show me a grow on here or anywere that breaks that with so little effort. no Ac no CO2.....man u must feel stupid now
i'd love to see me getting 1/4 of that! Amazing shit
 

oceangreen

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yeah cos 46oz from a 600w light is everyday stuff id like to see u get half of that! the amount of plants is irrelevant he could get more off of 2 plants if he wanted hes maximising efficiancy 600w into 46oz = 2gpw+ so u show me a grow on here or anywere that breaks that with so little effort. no Ac no CO2.....man u must feel stupid now
again 4 or 5 regular dwc, much less space, no need to drill and cluster fuck the situation. 1000 more watts and getting close to that is doable in a much simpler setup with much less plants + time/yield and space used.

If you are too cheap to get the extra lighting then do this... but probably spend even more money/time maintaining this setup.

and there is a mother somewhere getting 250w. So big deal, 600 watts or 1000 or 1500.

I not saying this is a bad setup. It good, just not amazing. He can do better, I already caught a flaw or two in the design that would have made things much easier for him.
In addtion he is forced to do 12/12 right away with that many sites close to each other or else he is asking for the system to clog. Its limited.

with all the money he spent on the mylar insulaltion. he could have gotten another light with less plant and hassle.

SB's setup if much more efficient
people are getting that much yeild, much less space, with a bit more power every 3 weeks

But still a good job, offcourse
 

sqydro

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again 4 or 5 regular dwc, much less space, no need to drill and cluster fuck the situation. 1000 more watts and getting close to that is doable in a much simpler setup with much less plants + time/yield and space used.

If you are too cheap to get the extra lighting then do this... but probably spend even more money/time maintaining this setup.

and there is a mother somewhere getting 250w. So big deal, 600 watts or 1000 or 1500.

I not saying this is a bad setup. It good, just not amazing. He can do better, I already caught a flaw or two in the design that would have made things much easier for him.
In addtion he is forced to do 12/12 right away with that many sites close to each other or else he is asking for the system to clog. Its limited.

with all the money he spent on the mylar insulaltion. he could have gotten another light with less plant and hassle.

SB's setup if much more efficient
people are getting that much yeild, much less space, with a bit more power every 3 weeks

But still a good job, offcourse
can u mail me a link to this other grow, what would u change in the design? i am planning bulding one with 2 more levels and 1 more 600w the only prob i can see is getting in n out the thing

and i think he done this as a test grow to see if it was going to work be4 he dialed it for bigger better yields, and the mylar he uses is readily available for free from any building site near you just look out for them, that and kingspan are always on them and both great for groom building :)

and as for the less plant sites problem if u did have less and veg 2 weeks or so i thing ud have to tie up the plants as theyd have a few colas instead of one?
 

oceangreen

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can u mail me a link to this other grow, what would u change in the design? i am planning bulding one with 2 more levels and 1 more 600w the only prob i can see is getting in n out the thing

and i think he done this as a test grow to see if it was going to work be4 he dialed it for bigger better yields, and the mylar he uses is readily available for free from any building site near you just look out for them, that and kingspan are always on them and both great for groom building :)

and as for the less plant sites problem if u did have less and veg 2 weeks or so i thing ud have to tie up the plants as theyd have a few colas instead of one?
Don't use this guys design for your op. No vegging are you serious?

Real ops have a veg/flr room.

if you want a max of 46 every 9 weeks then go right ahead. Do some more research
 

BearDown!

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In addtion he is forced to do 12/12 right away with that many sites close to each other or else he is asking for the system to clog. Its limited.


are you suggesting roots getting tied together because that is only thing i could think of that would keep him/me from veging longer to max the yiel you speak of w less plants..
 

oceangreen

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In addtion he is forced to do 12/12 right away with that many sites close to each other or else he is asking for the system to clog. Its limited.


are you suggesting roots getting tied together because that is only thing i could think of that would keep him/me from veging longer to max the yiel you speak of w less plants..
Not just that, no light penetration, not enough space for buds, roots will CLOG the system, if they get any bigger.

He would get more yeild if he DID EVERY OTHER site with less plants with the exact same setup.....
 

sqydro

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Don't use this guys design for your op. No vegging are you serious?

Real ops have a veg/flr room.

if you want a max of 46 every 9 weeks then go right ahead. Do some more research
i would have a cuttings/veg room put them in at 1 week old, and use more tiers 1 more 600 and less sites, it would not clog though, near impossible!

i am doing plenty research over on IC vert section they swear by more plants = bigger yield

you seem to know how to do improved way or better be good to see some stuff that i could look over. that link would be good also

sqydro
 

oceangreen

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i would have a cuttings/veg room put them in at 1 week old, and use more tiers 1 more 600 and less sites, it would not clog though, near impossible!

i am doing plenty research over on IC vert section they swear by more plants = bigger yield

you seem to know how to do improved way or better be good to see some stuff that i could look over. that link would be good also

sqydro
you are on to something. Make it more practical for yourself. less sites is easier and less messy, more room for plant, one more 600 is very easy to do and wont cost much, just improve yield.

1 week cuttling idea is good, but you will be left waiting 8 weeks for every harvest...

I would cut his system size in half...and make 2 flowering systems( use one and then start the second one after 4 weeks), have 1 600 on each of them, half the sites

Build a cloner system, have cuttings in the system for 3 weeks and then transplant to the flowering system.
You will have 46( or whatever you are supposed to get) every 4 weeks that way..
 

Corso312

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the guy is getting 2 grams a watt..that is amazing and very had to do...the way he hss it set up is perfect...he takes the cuttings when the plants begin to flower and roots them for the next round..nothing is wasted.
 

sqydro

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you are on to something. Make it more practical for yourself. less sites is easier and less messy, more room for plant, one more 600 is very easy to do and wont cost much, just improve yield.

1 week cuttling idea is good, but you will be left waiting 8 weeks for every harvest...

I would cut his system size in half...and make 2 flowering systems( use one and then start the second one after 4 weeks), have 1 600 on each of them, half the sites

Build a cloner system, have cuttings in the system for 3 weeks and then transplant to the flowering system.
You will have 46( or whatever you are supposed to get) every 4 weeks that way..
and do you run a dwc type system aswel?
 
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