Heaths Flooded Tube Vertical

Wow, that took a long time to read!

I take my hat off to Heath and everyone else that has the ability to make these amazing systems. I wouldn't know where to get half the stuff from in the first place for the irrigation of the system. Amazing. Very well done. Wish he lived near me!

laughingduck said:

The center to center of the 45s end up 21 inches, the cut length needs to be 19 inches. Anyhow thats how i did it.

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I made my system bigger cuz I'm using a 1000 watt light myself I made my "room" "frame" 63 inches square and if you cut your pipe 22 1/8 inches long it should fit perfectly in a frame that size (the 1/8 inch is a good idea cuz you might lose some beveiling the edge of the pipe to fit into the fittings which SUCK to put together!!! and the little extra makes for a really perfect fit. the final inner diameter at this length is 54 inches which is 4 ft 6 inches so plants are a full 2 ft away from my cool tube! Hope this helps!

yeah in the good old usa the fittings are called double gasketed pipe fittings and you just use normal 4 inch sewer pipe (I spent weeks trying to figure that one out and almost ordered pipe from the uk till I found it at a pipe supply co.)

Heaths work definitely needs to be stickied.

I learned a lot from Heath, awesome work! I'm stepping out of this hobby.
I have got all the pvc sealed pipe connections/pump/netpots for this, anyone in sf area is interested in them, pm me.
Sorry to spam this thread, it is taken that way I can remove the post. Cheers!

Demosthenese said:

pics of my mini cascade vertical hydro.

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That looks pretty bad ass... +rep

anybody know if bob smith ever posted results of that tree looking 45 degrees y connection contraption?

scottyshakes said:

anybody know if bob smith ever posted results of that tree looking 45 degrees y connection contraption?

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Here's a link to a thread on vertical growing. Bob S has a few pics in there of the thing he put together. A lot of us based our setup off Heaths. Thank you sir.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/263751-vertical-growing-42.html

scottyshakes said:

anybody know if bob smith ever posted results of that tree looking 45 degrees y connection contraption?

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Still using it, bro.

Been taking my time with it as it's a prototype; gonna flip the switch in a couple of days after I put a screen in there (really been dragging my feet on this).

I'll throw up a pic or two sometime in the next couple of days.

EDIT: and to Jig's point, I'm not sure if I like my setup better or the setup he runs (obviously mine would have to be bigger) - the introduction of HP aero feed into this has really screwed up my learning curve, but I'm confident I'll get it sorted

Might build some custom walls out of PVC for the next version, time will tell.

BLOCKER - 05-03-2011 10:40 AM -
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Yes I agree about the LED, your verticle dome seems to be the most effiecent and cheapest way of maximising a 600w bulb that i've ever seen.. I was going to go with fatman's medium pressure setup ((((https://www.rollitup.org/aerogardeners/419038-medium-pressure-large-tube-aero.html)))).. but the savings and simplicity I would make with your vert is outstanding.. I'd love to get the 2gpw you got and don't see why its not achievable..

I thought about making a giant octagon with a 4ft in diameter octagon inside it with another 4 levels of racks for the outside of the 4ft octagon using 5x 600w lights (1 in the center as yours, then the other 4 placed evenly to get the giant octagon and the outside of the 4ft but i'd just be making it more complicated than needed..

my ideas are wild lol

I'll settle for 4x (4' in diameter) domes like yours which would already save me 1.6kw ph from 12hrs of 24hrs from my original plan..(medium pressure)..

If the LED did work just imagine how it would look hahaaha outa this world...

Well thanks for making life easier and cheaper... No hoods lol no timers for pumps etc

Heath do you think just using 2"neopone collars in net pots instead of the clay pebbles would work?

BLOCKER said:

Heath do you think just using 2"neopone collars in net pots instead of the clay pebbles would work?

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my names not heath, but in my exp, where the plants grow outwards away from the pipe and towards the light... they get heavy in late flower and like to tip.... the hydroton gives the roots a little something to hold against, you know?

IAm5toned said:

my names not heath, but in my exp, where the plants grow outwards away from the pipe and towards the light... they get heavy in late flower and like to tip.... the hydroton gives the roots a little something to hold against, you know?

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When we gonna see yours IAm5toned?
Daniels

BLOCKER said:

Heath do you think just using 2"neopone collars in net pots instead of the clay pebbles would work?

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You would definitely want to have a way to tie them up so they don't tip over and fall out. I'm not sue how well the 2in collars would fit with the round pipe but I know the three inch won't work with out the net cup at least and you still have to tie the plants up. Using the Hydroton in that typs of system is only going to help as it is a "fast water" circulation system

Heath, out of all the system's you built which one would you say is the most efficient? also if it isn't this one couldypu post a link to it please!

WWShadow said:

Heath, out of all the system's you built which one would you say is the most efficient? also if it isn't this one couldypu post a link to it please!

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If you google 'Heath Robinson Tree Grow' or 'Heath Robinson Grows' you'll see alot of his work

Hope this helps

tanon said:

yeah in the good old usa the fittings are called double gasketed pipe fittings and you just use normal 4 inch sewer pipe (I spent weeks trying to figure that one out and almost ordered pipe from the uk till I found it at a pipe supply co.)

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somewhere in this book of Heath's is a link I posted to order the gasketed collars theyare like $15.00 ea. or were at the time I posted the link. You don't have to use the soil pipe it is compatible with PVC you will want to consider "beveling" the PVC ends before inserting and perhaps use some silicone grease and a rubber mallet. Thsi meaning you would have to connect both sections of pipe to the collar before strapping it down, but with the grease and the rubber mallet it should be much easier.

Peace!!
I'll look it up and repost it, it's wroth having on here again!!

Here's the link to the the gasketed collars https://keithspecialty.com/dwv.gasketed_sewer_main.htm
Price is up a bit but that is to be expected!

Keith specialty is the place. About $500 for all of the fittings (big box full) and about $80 for the SDR 35 sourced locally. Putting the pipe in the fitting is a real bitch. Order the lub at the bottom of Keith's page with the fittings.
The pipe has to be beveled to about an inch back at most. There is such a thing as a pipe beveler, but I found that a large disk sander is better to do the bevels. To cut the pipe I used a cutoff type bandsaw that folds down to cut. This can be had at harbor freight.

I've got 2 grows in this thing and had problems with bacteria on the first grow, Thank you Heizenberg!! for the fix, and on the present grow I have severe mag and P problems, I think. I'm going to have to put up my next grow here, just to plead for some help.

tenthirty said:

Keith specialty is the place. About $500 for all of the fittings (big box full) and about $80 for the SDR 35 sourced locally. Putting the pipe in the fitting is a real bitch. Order the lub at the bottom of Keith's page with the fittings.
The pipe has to be beveled to about an inch back at most. There is such a thing as a pipe beveler, but I found that a large disk sander is better to do the bevels. To cut the pipe I used a cutoff type bandsaw that folds down to cut. This can be had at harbor freight.

I've got 2 grows in this thing and had problems with bacteria on the first grow, Thank you Heizenberg!! for the fix, and on the present grow I have severe mag and P problems, I think. I'm going to have to put up my next grow here, just to plead for some help.

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How hot were you running your nutes? somewhere in the beginning Heath states that he never get over (I think) an EC of 1.5! I dont know that he ever stated what his nutrients were.