Health Warning: Meth Adulterated Weed in Portland Hempstalk

VladFromOG

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lol. it seems no one is even reading these - people keep making assumptions that are dispelled in the OP. pSi - no maybe about it; Marquis test proved it was meth beyond all doubt (see the pics/read the posts). And it wasnt some half eaten bag of chips, was a brand new personal sized one. And no meth head trades away the last of his tweak for some chips (there was a lot of crystals in there, a few doses), but some dumb young stoner who got sold a bag of laced (he mentioned buying the weed there at the event) very well may give up the last of his herb for some munchies. Southerner is right, part of the problem is these kids mistakenly think theyre immortal, which is why its so important for us adults to, you know, make sure they arent being sold poison at a damn pot legalization rally.
 

pSi007

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And it wasnt some half eaten bag of chips, was a brand new personal sized one. And no meth head trades away the last of his tweak for some chips..


(there was a lot of crystals in there, a few doses), but some dumb young stoner who got sold a bag of laced (he mentioned buying the weed there at the event) very well may give up the last of his herb for some munchies. Southerner is right, part of the problem is these kids mistakenly think theyre immortal, which is why its so important for us adults to, you know, make sure they arent being sold poison at a damn pot legalization rally.


you cant smoke a shard of crystal in a bud pipe.. He was not selling meth laced weed, it was a bud he crammed into his meth bag. Although, the way you described the bag of chips sounds VERY appealing.. were you eating the chips in a certain and sexy way :mrgreen: do you look like Brad Pitt? har har.. too many scenarios to know for sure. The dumbass should have told you there is METH in the weed. That pisses me off too but think about it, how many bags of that shit can he sell before someone punches his fucking lights out?




meth boils and bubbles, a person wont smoke it on weed if it was in shards and not a perfectly laced powder. You would be sucking boiling chunks of meth shards into your lungs. :) ..they don`t do that...
 

VladFromOG

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sigh, psi. I dont think he knew it was there, as mentioned prior, he was young, didnt look tweaky or even alternative, and, again, no tweaker gives up the last of his personal tweak stash (this wasnt jsut some left over crystal, there was a lot and it was smooshed into the bud, as I said before). And as I also already said, he wasnt out selling bags- this was a bag he had bought there from someone else, it was half used. I am aware that meth would behave oddly in a weed pipe compared to real weed (though the weed would likely keep the boiled meth in the bowl by soaking it up), but I also doubt some random ~13 yro would know the difference, esp if he was the sort that was dumb enough to purchase shard covered herb at a pot festival. Anyway, since attempting to communicate with you just involves me repeating myself over and over (seriously, when I say - "It was covered in table-salt-like crystals and I tested it with Marquis and it came out as meth", and you reply "If it was crystals than it was likely meth", its pretty obvious you stopped reading after a few words), I would advise you to go through the posts again if you want to see whats going on here.
it is likely crystal meth and that can FUCK you up and down if you don`t know what you are doing and/or are unhealthy
sounds like someone doesnt yet realize that meth *always* fucks you up and down, even if you "know what youre doing". Bro, I mean this from sincere concern; dont ever think you are healthy enough, or experienced enough, to control the meth, ok? Forgive me if this isnt the case, but those are the words of someone who still loves Krystal and wants to justify past or future use, and given that you cant seem to read whole paragraphs and your responses are jumping around a lot, I would wager it hasnt been too long since you last tried to control the tweak. Good luck, and dont take the fact that Im done repeating myself to you as a sign that I wish you anything but well.
 

pSi007

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Anyway, since attempting to communicate with you just involves me repeating myself over and over (seriously, when I say - "It was covered in table-salt-like crystals and I tested it with Marquis and it came out as meth", and you reply "If it was crystals than it was likely meth", its pretty obvious you stopped reading after a few words),

different kinds of meth, jack-wagon. Only the crystal shard looks like table salt and it is likely 10x-100x more potent than standard amphetamines. I suppose you don`t understand the point I was trying to make.

So.. You are telling us someone is going around and selling mass amounts of PURE CRYSTAL METH laced weed at a fucking pot show? Dude, like i said, you would be sucking in boiling shards of bitter poison, you would spit it out. It was an accident by a fucking idiot. It`s not a fad, Jack-wagon.

People would kill people if what you say is not an isolated incident. It also reminds me of shit COPS do.. They buy a bag of weed and put meth in it and be like, LOOK AT ME, I`m A STUPID FUCKING COP! I MADE THE BIGGEST DISCOVERY EVER!

You prob look like a cop and someone was fucking with you...
 

electricdayzie

New Member
The poor guy was just trying to warn innocent people out here. I appreciate his warning bcz it makes us pay more attention to what we are buying. No need to jump down his throat for watching over people.
 

VladFromOG

Active Member
Thanks Dayzie. You get it. I don't let the trolls stop me - they're why there's an Ignore List feature, lol. I just block the angry folks, and then keep on testing and reporting on it when I find shit like this going on. I know there are folks out there that will benefit from the information somehow :)
 

hillbillyherbs

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I was wondering only one thing in this drama fest, why do you carry around a meth test kit? I have never seen the need to have one and you seem to have some kind of normalcy in having one with you at all times.
That's all, carry on people....
 

VladFromOG

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Hi hillbilly! Its funny you should ask. I don't carry one around at all times, but since this happened, however, I am considering carrying some around always. It seems in my encounters in festivals and music shows theres always some idiot selling mixed RC/Meth "molly", and apparently theres some methed up weed in Portland area, and though Id never be dumb enough to touch either, itd be nice to have a test on hand to call these scuzzbags out on their BS before they sell their poisons... As I said in the OP, it was a few days later when I tested, at home, when I was going through my pockets. I always have a few around at home in case something sketchy comes up like this, bc its better to know, ya know? They are not just meth tests, they are useful for determining the general composition of several compounds, not all drug related, but yes, including meth. As for the drama - it mostly seems to be coming from folks who didnt read carefully enough and got confused (and then angry) on the details, lol ;)
 

hillbillyherbs

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Some more info on the reagent test I used for you Hillybilly, if youre interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_reagent Theres a large list of different compounds you can differentiate there, but there are several other that arent shown as well. The wiki is just a brief overview.
Thanks I will look it up. I do have to say that in all my travels around Oregon I have never heard of anyone doing this. I do remember back in the day when joints where laced with all kinds of different drugs, it would have been nice to be able to test stuff back then. I remember some guys smoking joints with formaldehyde. The 70's where a wonderful time:roll:
 

mo2oregon

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They call it getting "wet." Personally, I don't want a stone where I cannot move my body if I want... or my senses are so impaired that I walk out into traffic.
 

hillbillyherbs

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They call it getting "wet." Personally, I don't want a stone where I cannot move my body if I want... or my senses are so impaired that I walk out into traffic.
Yep that's how the people turned out, completely brain dead after a couple months of smoking that shit. It was the same with pcp and other things. There was joints they called Shermans like the tank, that would shut you down. That was just to nasty for me.
 

hillbillyherbs

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Now we have a higher standard I hope and people under the age of 16 produce their own thc compounds in the brain so using cannabis is very harmful to the developing human mind. Lets keep it where it belongs in the medical community and for adults only. Kids have enough problems.
 

Zildjian

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"hash oil made with contaminated butane (Power 7x, Vector 5x were the two named by the various coops as being used, both of which are highly impure), which always makes me mad bc bho is supposed to be medicine, not toxic industrial lube."

How do you mean contaminated? Is it the type of butane that makes it so? Sorry for my ignorance on this but I am curious what you mean by contaminated butane. As my grower has started making BHO, and I want to make sure he is not using this, if this is the case.
 

VladFromOG

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By contaminated, I mean it has, in addition to butane, petroleum distillates, various thick oil based lubricants, and mercaptans mixed in it, none of which evaporates off or gets otherwise purged in the bho extraction process. These are all common additives to lighter butane, as they help with the functioning of the valves. Unfortunately, there is no regulation or oversight either here or internationally of butane purity, so butane manufacturers can disclose these additives or not and even lie about it on the labeling if they like. Since the boom in popularity of BHO there has been a rush of butane brands that have capitalized by selling cheap, impure, lube and mercaptan contaminated butane blends and labeling them as "Pure Butane", usually with some meaningless measure of purity like "5X refined", but as I said, there is no legal oversight as to such labeling claims. Vector is a popular brand that is highly contaminated. The big problem with this contamination is that there is no way to separate the contaminate from either the butane or your finished extract; butane dissolves lipids, the contaminates are lipids and so are the cannabinoids you want to extract. Once they are all mixed, its impossible to unmix (like trying to unmix a bottle of 50/50 canola/olive oil into light pure canola oil and dark pure olive oil, cant do it, they are too similar physically), and the contaminates themselves can cause lung, brain, and cardiovascular damage if vaped or smoked. You can easily test for these contaminates in your butane though, with a simple clean plate test - discharge the butane (or any solvent really) into a clear glass plate, let the butane evap (all this done outside, no sparks or flames), then allow the plate to come to room temp and the water condensate evap off, then smell it. If it smells like eggs, theres mercaptan contamination. Next, run your bare finger across it. If you feel greasy or slick, theres oil contamination. Around my way, seems everyone likes Vector, so I tested them, all 4 grades, and they all had equally huge amounts of oil contamination, over 10g a bottle! Turns out its popular round here bc it gives the highest amount of extract back - the kick though is the extract is half industrial lube, with no way to purify! I've never found a butane with a refinement number on the label that wasnt contaminated. Though sometimes I find other brands that have "pure" batches, the only brand Ive tested that is consistently pure butane (or at least a clean evaporating gas only) is Colibri. Its expensive, but with the jar method, you only need one can per oz herb. Check out the link in my sig for a full run down on BHO etc, and I have a list of confirmed contaminated and clean brands here: https://www.rollitup.org/medicating/653906-clean-plate-test-how-check.html. Definitely ask if he does a clean plate test on his butane, and what brand it is. If the first answer is no, or if he uses on of the contaminated brands, stay away from his extracts!
 
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