Health Canada issues “stronger, clearer” warnings about suicide risks linked to ADHD drugs

WHATFG

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Prompted by reports of suicidal behaviour in patients taking ADHD medications, Health Canada is issuing “stronger, clearer warnings” about the risks associated with the drugs.
The drugs are: Adderall XR, Concerta, Biphentin, Strattera, Intuniv XR, Dexedrine, Ritalin, Ritalin SR, and Vyvanse. They are prescribed to help manage attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, a term used to describe people with poor focus, impulsivity and hyperactivity.
Health Canada said that, overall, the benefits of these drugs in ADHD treatment continue to outweigh the risks.
The regulator made the announcement Monday after reviewing reports of suspected side-effects filed to the federal government. Such reports are typically made by doctors, nurses, patients and drug companies.
“The reports involved thoughts of suicide, suicide attempts, and in a very small number of cases, completed suicide,” Health Canada said in a statement. “These events have been reported at various times during treatment, particularly at the start or during dose changes, and also after stopping the drug treatment.”
This is the same type of data reviewed by the Star as part of its 2012 investigation that found nearly 600 cases of Canadian kids suffering serious, sometimes fatal side-effects suspected to have been caused by ADHD medications between 2002 and 2012. (Intuniv XR was not on the market then.)
In the ensuing years, Health Canada has received more reports, but the regulator was not immediately able to offer specifics of any that may have led to its decision.
The side-effect reports show only a suspected connection between the drug and side-effect but no medical proof that one caused the other.
In its Monday press release, Health Canada underscored that point, saying, “There is little evidence to establish that these drugs cause suicidal thoughts and behaviours, but it is possible that they may contribute to the risk.”
The Star’s 2012 investigation found in these suspected side-effect reports, which are filed in a federal database, that 76 kids on ADHD medications thought about killing themselves. One-third of these were children younger than 10; some were as young as 6.
In addition, the Star found that 22 Canadian youths aged 8 to 18 tried to kill themselves. Five completed the attempt. All were boys age 13 to 15.
It has been estimated that one in 20 Canadian children have ADHD.
Doctors who specialize in ADHD and other experts told the Star in 2012 that, while they worried the newspaper’s investigation would scare parents from medicating kids in need, Health Canada should consider the reports a “red flag” and move quickly to find out if doctors and patients know enough about the drugs’ risks.
The risk of suicidal behaviour was flagged for one of the drugs, Strattera, in 2005, but “new information has emerged since to suggest that the risks . . . may apply to all other ADHD drugs,” Health Canada said Monday.
Whitby doctor Sohail Khattak was surprised to see the regulator’s announcement covered all of the ADHD drugs.
“The wow element is: Why now? What specific additional information does Health Canada have on every medication that is being prescribed for ADHD?”
The regulator also published Monday brief summaries of recent safety reviews it conducted into ADHD medications containing amphetamines, such as Dexedrine and Adderall XR, and methylphenidate, including Concerta and Ritalin. Both kinds of drugs are commonly prescribed to Canadian children.
The reviews were prompted by side-effects reports sent to the regulator describing suicidal behaviour after a patient took ADHD medication.
“Side-effects are things that need to be monitored,” said Heidi Bernhardt, president and executive director of the Centre for ADHD Awareness Canada, an ADHD advocacy group. “It’s always a good thing to notify the public and medical professionals about this stuff as soon as there is some evidence that’s found that hasn’t been there. Is it something to panic about? No.”
The stronger warnings will apply to generic and brand-name ADHD drugs. Shire Canada, whose Vyvanse, Adderall XR and Intuniv XR were all listed in Health Canada’s announcement, did not immediately respond to questions from the Star.
Janssen, which manufactures Concerta, said a recent company review “did not identify evidence of a causal relationship between Concerta and suicide.”
Health Canada also notes in its Monday press release that people with ADHD “may already have a slightly increased risk of suicidal thoughts and behaviours,” and that “ADHD may also affect people who have other mental health conditions that are associated with an increased risk of suicide, such as depression or bipolar disorder.”
Khattak, who had concerns in 2012 that doctors were possibly over-prescribing ADHD medications, said the new warning language highlights the importance of health professionals carefully diagnosing a child whose ADHD symptoms may be the result of depression or anxiety.
 

gb123

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They should be warning people about benzodiazepines while they're at it.... and everything made by pharma!
Let people know that every 19 mins a person DIES from a side effect of a Pharma made medication!!!
100% TRUTH!!!!
The ADHD shit they are reporting about is candy by comparison!!
 

bcbreeder

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They should put out a warning about tilray house blends ,
If I was a vet with ptsd and I had to smoke that bacteria laden floor sweepings "medication" Id shoot myself...
 

GroErr

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Fuck all pharma meds. They tried to put my son on Ritalin when he was around 10 and almost broke up my marriage at the time (wish I had, it would have cost me less @#$!) because I refused to put him on it. My brother had both his kids on Ritalin from the time they were about 8 yrs. old. One killed himself 5 years ago, the other is a fucking basket case and now on multiple and much stronger pharma meds. DON'T DO IT!!!!! Particularly to kids. I'd rather give my kids MJ edibles/caps than any of that pharma crap.
 

The Hippy

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At least half the kids I've seen on Ritalin had parents that shoulda been on something even stronger. Sometimes I wondered if the parents weren't more of the cause of the kids needing it. Fuck a few of the little bastards were simply out of control from poor parenting more than natural needs. Discipline has become a bad word nowadays.
Most of em just needed some stern rules that they could take direction from.
Not always, I feel that many times it is parents who want to be the child's " friend " more than being a parent. Parent and guider first, friends will naturally follow second. Kids need a confident leader.
IMO anyway...sorry if I offended anyone.
Last resort is Ritalin imo....it's a crutch, not a fix.
These of course are only my observations and opinion, I admit, no science here.
 

gb123

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lol Hippy.
One thing I learned when I was a kid
Idiots can have children too. ;)

Ritalin was THE DRUG of choice by Family GP's. and they gave it out like candy.
I remember my buddy who was going to Rosseau Lake College, at the time.
He said 95% of the kids were on it and if they weren't some would ask the ones who had it for it :lol:
It did weird things to kids who were not hyperactive.
Half in the morning ( A ) and half in the afternoon ( B ) :)
 

doingdishes

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At least half the kids I've seen on Ritalin had parents that shoulda been on something even stronger. Sometimes I wondered if the parents weren't more of the cause of the kids needing it. Fuck a few of the little bastards were simply out of control from poor parenting more than natural needs. Discipline has become a bad word nowadays.
Most of em just needed some stern rules that they could take direction from.
Not always, I feel that many times it is parents who want to be the child's " friend " more than being a parent. Parent and guider first, friends will naturally follow second. Kids need a confident leader.
IMO anyway...sorry if I offended anyone.
Last resort is Ritalin imo....it's a crutch, not a fix.
These of course are only my observations and opinion, I admit, no science here.
being stern these days can get you in trouble.
when i was bad, i got smacked on the ass...not beaten. i knew what was and what wasn't OK...and from there I made a decision if the punishment was worth the crime...haha
i don't think all these kids should be on that stuff. it was very rare when i grew up but now they hand it out like candy. I think they should try natural first.
i have a friend who's kid was violent and unmanageable...she had an idea to feed him only natural foods (things you can pronounce) and he changed completely and is now very well mannered. I am not saying that's the right thing for everyone but instead of the Docs handing out pills, why not try something else. not everything is cured by phama.
 

The Hippy

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Yes my idea is certainly not the answer for all. I know it wouldn't work in every case.
Being a strong parent doesn't mean beating them. The odd threat may be needed but strength needs to be shown in other ways. Plus the biggest thing is being consistent and starting early. Once they get outta the cage, the chickens are hard to get back in lol
Showing self confidence is important as well. After all if your leader is a non functional low motivated parent, it's hard to feel confidence. Much can be achieved through self confidence. It's way over looked.
It's not easy for everyone to be a parent now matter who you are these days.
 

doingdishes

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trying to be their "friend first" i think is a good idea but you do have to show you are the PARENT...or they don't learn respect. i see that lack of respect in a lot of kids these days. i know I didn't have tons of it growing up and rebelling but when my Mom gave that "tone"...I shut up & did whatever she said right then & there...
 

GroErr

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lol Hippy.
One thing I learned when I was a kid
Idiots can have children too. ;)

Ritalin was THE DRUG of choice by Family GP's. and they gave it out like candy.
I remember my buddy who was going to Rosseau Lake College, at the time.
He said 95% of the kids were on it and if they weren't some would ask the ones who had it for it :lol:
It did weird things to kids who were not hyperactive.
Half in the morning ( A ) and half in the afternoon ( B ) :)
In the US, the school systems are literally Ridalin pushers, they use it like it's a baby-sitting service so they don't actually have to deal with kids that don't fit the "norm". It's a disgrace, bad enough that so many adults are hooked on various pharma meds (many who give us a hard time about using the devil weed). But when it becomes normal to put your kids on any number of pills to manage behaviour, it speaks to the society that has evolved, it's a sad, sad state. I had to attend my nephew's funeral a few years back and his demise started when he was 8 years old and put on Ritalin. His younger brother is so fucked up he's 25 and acts like a 12 year old, he's on so many pharma meds he has one of those pill organizers to keep them straight. When that's the norm for a 25 year old, omfg $#%! Doesn't anyone step back and look at how ridiculous the situation is? I've discussed this with my brother a few times and he doesn't see anything wrong with it, nor associates the early adoption of Ritalin for both his kids as the "gateway" to the state his only son is in at 25 years old. But then again, my suggestion to wean him off some of that shit and use MJ as an alternative was met with comments about me being a stoner. Maybe I'm the asshole who just doesn't get it?
 

gb123

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IT"S A HUGE business.
Like Warfarin.. 100 of thousands on it..tests that go with it. It's worth BILLIONS a year!!!!!!!!!!
There are a TONs of Pharma drugs that most don't realize, get handed out in huge amounts.
Addiction is a good thing when you are supplying the remedy.
Look at Methadone! etc..


......its just wacked!!!
 

The Hippy

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In the US, the school systems are literally Ridalin pushers, they use it like it's a baby-sitting service so they don't actually have to deal with kids that don't fit the "norm". It's a disgrace, bad enough that so many adults are hooked on various pharma meds (many who give us a hard time about using the devil weed). But when it becomes normal to put your kids on any number of pills to manage behaviour, it speaks to the society that has evolved, it's a sad, sad state. I had to attend my nephew's funeral a few years back and his demise started when he was 8 years old and put on Ritalin. His younger brother is so fucked up he's 25 and acts like a 12 year old, he's on so many pharma meds he has one of those pill organizers to keep them straight. When that's the norm for a 25 year old, omfg $#%! Doesn't anyone step back and look at how ridiculous the situation is? I've discussed this with my brother a few times and he doesn't see anything wrong with it, nor associates the early adoption of Ritalin for both his kids as the "gateway" to the state his only son is in at 25 years old. But then again, my suggestion to wean him off some of that shit and use MJ as an alternative was met with comments about me being a stoner. Maybe I'm the asshole who just doesn't get it?
Figures eh...ya and your the stoner ???
 

GroErr

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Figures eh...ya and your the stoner ???
Yeah, many with that attitude still. The neighbour on one side of me bitches at her son for puffing weed with his buddies on weekends, while she's so stoned on pharma meds 24/7 that you can tell when she's off her meds because she can actually hold a conversation. Most of the time she's so stoned she can't even make eye contact, never mind make any sense talking to her, but her son's a stoner... yeah...
 

The Hippy

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You should tell her she's worse than him and a bigger stoner too. I did that recently and boy did the conversation go quiet....er. When I pointed out to the drinking relatives that they are doing far worse than people who smoke pot are, they looked a bit....off put.

We need to fight back more imo....I do plenty and get kinda " shunned " slightly for it......but who gives a fuck.
 

doingdishes

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You should tell her she's worse than him and a bigger stoner too. I did that recently and boy did the conversation go quiet....er. When I pointed out to the drinking relatives that they are doing far worse than people who smoke pot are, they looked a bit....off put.

We need to fight back more imo....I do plenty and get kinda " shunned " slightly for it......but who gives a fuck.
when i hit back with that i get the same thing. makes me laugh. one argument i heard "it's legal & pot isn't"...so my next comment-if it was legal, would you still have a problem with it?" that's usually met with a blank stare & a change of conversation
 
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