Headband and OG Kush grow (LST)

ZEN MASTER

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So here are the clones I have managed to screw up badly. I am gutted about this as they have almost died previously and I brought them back to life (they have been on the go for over 6 weeks as clones), literally within 24 hours of taking the last pic of them - see in previous post - they have ended up like this. Only added Rain water, then this started to happen, so I flushed them but they have steadily got worse. The same rain water also done my clones in. without testing this water further not sure (ph showed as 7.0)
Any ideas, is this over watering, which I am puzzled about as there is no run off from the pots after flushing)???????

hey man this is just a guess ok. coco has the ability to hold so many times its own weight, especially in pots. how long had it been between the time you last feed and the time you flushed. because "IN MY EXPERIENCE" , that's so i won't be misqouted again, but "IN MY EXPERIENCE" from what it looks like is that they can't breathe because it's too much water in the pot, because after the initial runoff whatever fluid is left bonds to that coco and it kinda expands thge coco a little.well when you go an put more fluid in before the plant has a chance to absorbed liquid in it, it basically holds that fluid. therefore decreasing the amount of oxygen in the root zone. that's just my opinion.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 

DST

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Zen, I was actually thinking of just pulling one out and seeing what was happening (and I mean in a very careful way as appossed to howkin it right out the pot!). Can always try and re-pot it....my guess is whats to loose, what you recks bud?
 

ZEN MASTER

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well seeing that it is in a critical state right now, shocking the roots might not be good for it. what i've found out is that if a clone is gonna die, it's gonna die. at this point anything you do could aid in the dying process. my best advice would be to just put them under the light, with the light just a little higher than usual(only if it's a HID), just in case they can't take the intensity of the light. and just see how they respond, if it is overwatering then they should pick back up, but the damage is irreversable. if it's too much nutes let it dry, and when"IT'S TIME" to feed give a real light nute mix like 20%-25% of what you usually do. hope that helps man, i hate that happened to you. do you have any more clones, or can you get some. i hope so on either account, hey good luck bro!!!


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 

mcone

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That is too bad man. I would let them be and see if they bounce back.. Don't water again unless the soil is dry..
In other news, I had to harvest one of my three girls early yesterday due to mildew... Looks like it'll be over an OZ dry but it's a week early..
 

DST

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Based on the state of the clones I have done the following, left 3 pretty much intact - removed a few of the most mashed up looking leaves. The two worst ones, not good looking at all - I have cut back all the dead leaves and re-potted the very worst one and left the other with what nice green foliage it had left. Lets see which ones survive. It's all good, if these things didn't happen, you wouldn't appreciate the good times as much:mrgreen:

I have put nine new headband seeds on the go....still have one Cali Orange seedling...not looking great for her but we shall see. the others have had the light turned off on them...lost causes.

So it's goodnight from him, And its goodnight from him, Goodnight!
 

DST

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And the broader shot:
 

DST

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And for all those RIU who want to remain annonymous


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ok, thats enough, check it out if you want to. Onto a more greener stickier pic now.
 

323cheezy

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headband and og kush are two of my faves.....
how did u get those genetic??? from where .....
they must have been clones... bcause i cant find any banks with headband and og is always out of stock..
Dame blanch...wooah that must be some fire....
u must live in socal huh???
 

DST

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So this is the OG kush I cut about 2 weeks ago....just to compare with the final product which will come down at the weekend....lots of amber trichs developing already...this stuff is already stank-ing and has a real thick kush sweet kush smell to it....will see what it smokes like later.
 

DST

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headband and og kush are two of my faves.....
how did u get those genetic??? from where .....
they must have been clones... bcause i cant find any banks with headband and og is always out of stock..
Dame blanch...wooah that must be some fire....
u must live in socal huh???
hi 323cheezy, thanks for stoppin by. I got the initial Headband seed from a bag I bought from a coffeeshop (lucky me!!) First batch I done with them I got a whole load of seeds from self germination, then 2nd and 3rd generation clones calmed down (I got 2 seeds from my last crop) - no bananas on this crop.

However - I just destroyed my latest clones - doh!! So I am starting again.

Dame Blanch seeds also died (being having a mare recently)

oh, and I live in Europe.
 

Hayduke

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no need to argue dude. that's why i put up the disclaimer. you know, this just works for me. also i hear what you are "saying", but i'm actually speaking from side by side comparisons. i don't know maybe it's just the strains i've grown, which up until the last two grows has been bagseed. but hey that's just what really, really works for me.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
Hey Zen Dude, I was absolutely not trying to be argumentative, just a second opinion. Sorry Hommie.

DST, Bummer dude! They do look like they have been drowned, but it would have to be a combo of issues. I sure hope you can save them. The exact thing happened to 3 hijack and a K-train, though I think the k-train was a result of a happy dose of superthrive as sort of an experiment, based on success with nursery plants...Good luck bro, I sure hope they make it! If I lost my HB I would be devastated and be on a mission to find another!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

Hayduke

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I went back to remove the post, and now remember that I was trying not to sound argumentative or ruffle any feathers...which is why I started and ended with this...

I am definitely not a master grower, nor am I arguing but IMHO...[...my opinion stuff]
But hey...it is just an opinion!
just for the record! I will delete the post if I can. edit: evidently it was too long ago. sorry dude.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

DST

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I went back to remove the post, and now remember that I was trying not to sound argumentative or ruffle any feathers...which is why I started and ended with this...



just for the record! I will delete the post if I can. edit: evidently it was too long ago. sorry dude.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
To Zen and Hayduke, it's good to fuel debate about plants so it's all chiefs in my eyes....and i reckon the zen is a chilled dude so no need to delete. Peace folks:bigjoint:

Update:
Got 9 Headband seeds in shot glasses, and 5 Orange Cali (if at first you don't succeed, try try again!) A few of the HB beans have popped a shoot so just waiting on the others. Progress report to follow.
 

DST

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So here we go, another day ended, and another one starting (dam, I need to get to bed 00:40....However wanted to get these up so as not to disturb the girls.
I got 4 kush and 1 small Headband i am going to chop. I have left 4 headbands in the grow space.
Yes, it is very dark

The four girls that survived the cull

One of the kush nugs



And the headband that is also going

Our next update folks will be from the hanging gardens of eden......oh what joy
 

Hayduke

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Do you leave them in total darkness before you chop? If so how long? I do for 24-48hrs, but I do not know if it does much/anything.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

DST

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Do you leave them in total darkness before you chop? If so how long? I do for 24-48hrs, but I do not know if it does much/anything.

:leaf::peace::leaf:
Indeed Hayduke, I am just off to cut them now, the girls being chopped have been out of the light and under that plastic sheeting - see previous pic since Thursday evening. My understanding is that it makes the plant think it is dying so it powers all its energy into developing seed which it can't without pollem so I am guessing the potency increases through higher thc. AS I say, I am guessing, but I am sure there is a scientific explanation to be found...or are we just waiting time that light could be on them...mmmmm???
 
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