Hazeman Seeds

40AmpstoFreedom said:

You need to order Grapefruit x BB by Chimera. A wide open F1 110% legitimate Sweet Tooth. The only difference is Chimera's BB selection and if I were to trust anyone with selections it would be him.

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finding it is going to be rough why did you not tell hi where to get them. lol
i had GG x BB legit male as a cut. only so i could let him fuck most of my ladies. it never happened. grrr somewhere recently online i forgot it was that cut and actually named a cut i didn't have by mistake.

icrag is done with selling his gear, very few banks have his stuff anyway
grow shop alien and Alphakronik but can't vouch for them personally if they are legit or how old the stock is if they have it.

N.R.G. said:

Hazeman is releasing 88g13/hp at $40 a pack, that's close enough to free for me! Also if you want to get technical Hazeman had no deal with ndnguy, that was Mota's deal. Hazeman just made the seeds Mota gave him. So technically when Hazeman went solo with Infinity Genetics he was free to sell the strain. Also look around, out of those original guys that were gifted 88G13/hp, who's been giving them away the last 7-8 years? Not a single one of them. Bodhi is putting out crosses with everything under the sun at $70 a pack. That's fine and all, I have nothing but respect for Bohdi but if not for Hazeman many of us would not have the pure 88g13/hp. So I'm thankful he does what he does.

As far as his PTK, well of course Nspecta is trying to say that, he has an agenda, he's trying to work on the line himself. Hazeman has been around way longer than Nspecta and sells his gear at amazing prices so again, take what you want from that.

As far as Stardawg IX, I have never seen that for sale. I was gifted a freebie pack when buying another pack though. Thankful for that as well.


Here is a quote about Hazeman by Shoes back in 2011.

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you are reinforcing what i said earlier today concerning who we think we know and can trust. most all of us don't fall into the know or the legit trust category.

just like you pointing out nspecta has a dog in the fight. ok, fine but that doesn't mean you know if he's being totally honest or just protecting his own project.
Again we don't know these folks that well if at all. what they reveal in a thread or not is up to them what they do behind closed doors that we aren't privy too is something else and often we just don't know it.

each and every time i or any of us speculate that is all it is. we don't usually have the evidence to support our assertions. just because they might seem reasonable does not mean that is the reality at all. i can only go by what i have heard or read online like most of us. just like all the origin stories that have come out for various strains. just when u think u have heard them all after a decade here comes another one. can some one say Bubba Kush ijs

I should say I'm coming from the perspective of a grower new to the scene.
An awful lot of the shadows hanging over various reputations are buried deep in forums and not readily accessible.
I did what research I could and whilst people argued his about ethics, nobody argued about his genetics.
And the bottom line is that's what matters.
I'm not condoning dishonourable behaviour, but from an outsider's perspective the jury was still out when I pulled the trigger on his gear.
And indeed it's the genetics I'm still interested in

I have a lemon stomper by hazeman and it is very very frosty. It must be the lemon larry dominant. Its impressive, lemon almost cookie smell/og smell and I will be buying more hazeman gear because of it. I have white grapes going in veg, hopefully I get a female. That is my next strain I really want a female of.

Stoned Cold Bulldog said:

you are reinforcing what i said earlier today concerning who we think we know and can trust. most all of us don't fall into the know or the legit trust category.

just like you pointing out nspecta has a dog in the fight. ok, fine but that doesn't mean you know if he's being totally honest or just protecting his own project.
Again we don't know these folks that well if at all. what they reveal in a thread or not is up to them what they do behind closed doors that we aren't privy too is something else and often we just don't know it.

each and every time i or any of us speculate that is all it is. we don't usually have the evidence to support our assertions. just because they might seem reasonable does not mean that is the reality at all. i can only go by what i have heard or read online like most of us. just like all the origin stories that have come out for various strains. just when u think u have heard them all after a decade here comes another one. can some one say Bubba Kush ijs

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You have a valid point. I asked Hazeman directly and he told me he was told it was PTK that he had. There is a long detailed grow involving Hazeman's PTK on THCfarmer and weeding through the whole thread and the ICmag thread, it's clear no one knows what the heck the real PTK looks like. Some guy named eastcoastjoe is claiming he had Xmas bud and gave Hazeman and others those seeds and that they came from ndnguy but who knows if that's even legit or not. What we do know for sure is that the genetics Hazeman has look just like what was being called PTK back in the early to mid 2000's.

As far as some secret society of growers and not being privy to certain things, none of that is true. A person is either honest or they are not. They are either transparent or they are not. Hazeman has answered every question I have asked him so far and I have no reason to doubt him. He seems like a very cool guy that's offering awesome strains at awesome prices and also does a good job of preserving older lines while the new breeders chase the flavor of the week. Go check out the grow on thcfarmer titled Bodhi and Hazeman, the guy runs like 7-9 strains mostly Bodhi and 2-3 Hazeman and at the end he says Hazeman's Madness is the best plant/genetics he has ever had and will never go without it in his garden. That grow included Bohdi's Goji OG, Acient OG, Blue Lotus and others. That's a testament to how legit Hazeman's genetics are. I have some Madness sitting here, I just need more room! I have so many strains I need to pop and go through but space is killing me.

I like hazeman seeds i dont have alot of experience with them but the prices and crosses are always interesting..

Only thing i dont like is the way he list his lineages its not always 100% clear fpr example

He sells la pure kush .. but la pure kush is clone only so what male did u use ? Says pure kush male how ?

insane that he offers a 12 pack of his seeds for $25 plus shipping. I have to get some now.

40AmpstoFreedom said:

You need to order Grapefruit x BB by Chimera. A wide open F1 110% legitimate Sweet Tooth. The only difference is Chimera's BB selection and if I were to trust anyone with selections it would be him.

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tanx for that tip, where is Chimera to be had these days?

Which banks have the best stock?

greencropper said:

tanx for that tip, where is Chimera to be had these days?

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Hit him up on icmag. He has his own forum and breeders retail was his seed company he made for seed distribution. I forgot recently his seedbank in UK had to close down as the person running it for him had to tend to other matters. Hempdepot.ca used to always have his stuff but I was surprised to see no more just now. He probably removed it from all vendors when he started his own bank which was great bitcoin rocked... I would highly recommend you hunt him downa nd get these seeds though I know he has a good bit of stock left and I too need to restock on at least 6 packs. I have run 4-5 and it's fantastic stuff. Awesome GF and BB leaners to find. My favorite is the bb dom ones but the grapefruit is all the rage with many.

Also his new blockhead lines are fire. Think I got like 15+ different packs.

Way off topic though so sorry to rest of thread.

Stoned Cold Bulldog said:

you are reinforcing what i said earlier today concerning who we think we know and can trust. most all of us don't fall into the know or the legit trust category.

just like you pointing out nspecta has a dog in the fight. ok, fine but that doesn't mean you know if he's being totally honest or just protecting his own project.
Again we don't know these folks that well if at all. what they reveal in a thread or not is up to them what they do behind closed doors that we aren't privy too is something else and often we just don't know it.

each and every time i or any of us speculate that is all it is. we don't usually have the evidence to support our assertions. just because they might seem reasonable does not mean that is the reality at all. i can only go by what i have heard or read online like most of us. just like all the origin stories that have come out for various strains. just when u think u have heard them all after a decade here comes another one. can some one say Bubba Kush ijs

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at the end of the day lifes too short...if a few known cats on here grow a strain thats from a nefarious background yet turn out fire and its traits are what i like then im in boots n all...person can split hairs all day, definitely gotta draw a line somewhere and i wouldnt purchase if the funds were to support terror or anything like that, but thats about it, purchased Rezdogs sour diesel x chemdog before i knew it was supposedly stolen, yet am i going to throw them away cos they are? no way, supposed to be one of he best expressions out there are Rez's stuff, pollen chucked them well & have 1000's of offspring that 'are fire', regretful? nahhhh, really glad i grabbed that Rez gear

40AmpstoFreedom said:

Hit him up on icmag. He has his own forum and breeders retail was his seed company he made for seed distribution. I forgot recently his seedbank in UK had to close down as the person running it for him had to tend to other matters. Hempdepot.ca used to always have his stuff but I was surprised to see no more just now. He probably removed it from all vendors when he started his own bank which was great bitcoin rocked... I would highly recommend you hunt him downa nd get these seeds though I know he has a good bit of stock left and I too need to restock on at least 6 packs. I have run 4-5 and it's fantastic stuff. Awesome GF and BB leaners to find. My favorite is the bb dom ones but the grapefruit is all the rage with many.

Also his new blockhead lines are fire. Think I got like 15+ different packs.

Way off topic though so sorry to rest of thread.

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its all good info, no restrictions here if anyone wants to go off topic, thanks

N.R.G. said:

Hazeman is releasing 88g13/hp at $40 a pack, that's close enough to free for me! Also if you want to get technical Hazeman had no deal with ndnguy, that was Mota's deal. Hazeman just made the seeds Mota gave him. So technically when Hazeman went solo with Infinity Genetics he was free to sell the strain. Also look around, out of those original guys that were gifted 88G13/hp, who's been giving them away the last 7-8 years? Not a single one of them. Bodhi is putting out crosses with everything under the sun at $70 a pack. That's fine and all, I have nothing but respect for Bohdi but if not for Hazeman many of us would not have the pure 88g13/hp. So I'm thankful he does what he does.

As far as his PTK, well of course Nspecta is trying to say that, he has an agenda, he's trying to work on the line himself. Hazeman has been around way longer than Nspecta and sells his gear at amazing prices so again, take what you want from that.

As far as Stardawg IX, I have never seen that for sale. I was gifted a freebie pack when buying another pack though. Thankful for that as well.


Here is a quote about Hazeman by Shoes back in 2011.

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My understanding was that 88g13HP was given out with the instructions that anyone given it shouldn’t sell it. The purpose wasn’t to hoard genetics. It was the opposite, make sure people had access to it. Crosses using the strain was never the issue, it was the pure line. Yeah, $40 is cheap, but going against the original breeders intentions isn’t something I can support.

Nspecta is about as open, honest, and knowledgeable when it comes to old school genetics as anyone. As far as I know, he has zero intention of selling anything involved with the Pine Tar Kush project. His number one priority is just preserving the genetics of this old work, not making money off of it. Tom Hill even offered to give him his remaining seed stock so he could work on preserving it before he disappeared. On top of that, Xmas Bud is a strain that Nspecta HAS used for crosses that he sells and is a strain in high demand among collectors of older stuff. If he just wanted to slander the competition, he would’ve said it wasn’t anything at all. He’s just trying to make it clear that Hazeman’s PTK isn’t the real thing so people shouldn’t continue muddying up the genetics.

Also, from what I gathered, this came after Nspecta had sourced as many PTK seeds as he could. I believe the deal was he’d send new pure line PTK seeds to anyone who sent him seeds from old stock. After growing out seeds from every source he could find, the Hazeman seeds didn’t match and appeared to be Xmas Bud. He also wasn’t accusing Hazeman of being intentionally dishonest, but thought that he probably received mislabeled seeds from someone else.

9 x Mikado day 15 12/12, approx 3' high, happy with growth though about 5 casualties grower error first time full coco grow

i may add that out of 24 germinated Mikado though approx 5 have 'drowned' through grower error not 1 have hermied...compared to 40% of Greenpoints Orange Blossom Special & 20% of Exotic Genetix Candy Apple Kush grown in exactly same circumstances as the Mikado...more stable genetics from Hazeman are obvious

N.R.G. said:

Hazeman is releasing 88g13/hp at $40 a pack, that's close enough to free for me! Also if you want to get technical Hazeman had no deal with ndnguy, that was Mota's deal. Hazeman just made the seeds Mota gave him. So technically when Hazeman went solo with Infinity Genetics he was free to sell the strain. Also look around, out of those original guys that were gifted 88G13/hp, who's been giving them away the last 7-8 years? Not a single one of them. Bodhi is putting out crosses with everything under the sun at $70 a pack. That's fine and all, I have nothing but respect for Bohdi but if not for Hazeman many of us would not have the pure 88g13/hp. So I'm thankful he does what he does.

As far as his PTK, well of course Nspecta is trying to say that, he has an agenda, he's trying to work on the line himself. Hazeman has been around way longer than Nspecta and sells his gear at amazing prices so again, take what you want from that.

As far as Stardawg IX, I have never seen that for sale. I was gifted a freebie pack when buying another pack though. Thankful for that as well.


Here is a quote about Hazeman by Shoes back in 2011.

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I was thinking the same thing about Bodhi and the 88hp. Like wtf this dude talking about?

Stoned Cold Bulldog said:

you are reinforcing what i said earlier today concerning who we think we know and can trust. most all of us don't fall into the know or the legit trust category.

just like you pointing out nspecta has a dog in the fight. ok, fine but that doesn't mean you know if he's being totally honest or just protecting his own project.
Again we don't know these folks that well if at all. what they reveal in a thread or not is up to them what they do behind closed doors that we aren't privy too is something else and often we just don't know it.

each and every time i or any of us speculate that is all it is. we don't usually have the evidence to support our assertions. just because they might seem reasonable does not mean that is the reality at all. i can only go by what i have heard or read online like most of us. just like all the origin stories that have come out for various strains. just when u think u have heard them all after a decade here comes another one. can some one say Bubba Kush ijs

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Dude, who do you order seeds from then? I mean look at the seed industry now and tell me how you think Hazeman is more dubious.

If you don't like what he is selling then go check out some breeders you're digging but expecting a breeder to go into conversation with every Tom Dick and Harry about where they got a male or a female is expecting a bit too much imo.

At $40 a pack, I mean come on.

He said, she said... Elephant Stomper is still a top ten for me. I'll eventually get around to his work with the Sour Grapes. Cheers everybody and happy hunting. In the end, it's just a plant. Grow it already!

I was actually going to grab the Elephant stomper instead but snagged the grapes 13. My bro did the ele stomper and love them too.

I might still snag a pack of the E stomper but I think I got a really nice grape soda pheno of grapes 13 for now.

I just hit this grapes 13 (one of the non keepers out of 4 females) with a male tangerine power by sin city.

thenotsoesoteric said:

I was actually going to grab the Elephant stomper instead but snagged the grapes 13. My bro did the ele stomper and love them too.

I might still snag a pack of the E stomper but I think I got a really nice grape soda pheno of grapes 13 for now.

I just hit this grapes 13 (one of the non keepers out of 4 females) with a male tangerine power by sin city.
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should be a killer cross that, looking forward to when you grow the offspring out!