has anyone used pargro quick drain rockwool cubes?

tree king

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im having overwatering problems with grodan rockwool and i just found out about these pargro quick drain cubes and there supposed to be 14% drier than regular cubes. anyone try these and notice a difference?
 

homebrewer

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im having overwatering problems with grodan rockwool and i just found out about these pargro quick drain cubes and there supposed to be 14% drier than regular cubes. anyone try these and notice a difference?
I've used rockwool exclusively since I began hydroponic growing years ago. The overwatering problem is operator error and not an issue of the rockwool. Ever thought about flooding/dripping/watering/feeding less frequently? I think the last thing rockwool needs is the ability to dry out faster. More feedings mean quicker salt buildup in the medium.
 

silasraven

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I've used rockwool exclusively since I began hydroponic growing years ago. The overwatering problem is operator error and not an issue of the rockwool. Ever thought about flooding/dripping/watering/feeding less frequently? I think the last thing rockwool needs is the ability to dry out faster. More feedings mean quicker salt buildup in the medium.
WHAT? the roots are in water all the time from what ive been lead to believe how can you dry a hydro plant and still retain moisture?
 

tree king

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I've used rockwool exclusively since I began hydroponic growing years ago. The overwatering problem is operator error and not an issue of the rockwool. Ever thought about flooding/dripping/watering/feeding less frequently? I think the last thing rockwool needs is the ability to dry out faster. More feedings mean quicker salt buildup in the medium.
the problem is if i water less frequently then as long as im using h202 it will probably fix the root rot problem im having but ive noticed unless your able to water frequently the plants grow extemely slow and it makes it not even worth using the rockwool in the first place
 

homebrewer

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the problem is if i water less frequently then as long as im using h202 it will probably fix the root rot problem im having but ive noticed unless your able to water frequently the plants grow extemely slow and it makes it not even worth using the rockwool in the first place
What is your environment like? Do you have plenty of airflow? Are your cubes too big for your plants? Why type of hydro system do you run? How big are your plants and how many times are you flooding during veg and flower? I get rapid growth in my rockwool cubes and I'm not saying it's the end-all-be-all of hydro mediums, but when used and maintained correctly, it performs beautifully.
 

tree king

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What is your environment like? Do you have plenty of airflow? Are your cubes too big for your plants? Why type of hydro system do you run? How big are your plants and how many times are you flooding during veg and flower? I get rapid growth in my rockwool cubes and I'm not saying it's the end-all-be-all of hydro mediums, but when used and maintained correctly, it performs beautifully.
4" squared cubes watered twice a day max. sea of green with no veg time. temp 78-83, humidity 45-50. im not gonna lie the air flow isnt that good i gotta get more fans. i do have success though when i let the cubes get almost bone dry before watering and when i say bone dry im not kidding, watering like every 5 days the first 2-3 weeks and growth is slow
 

i81two

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I grow 99% of all my plants in rw also and air flow below the canopy is very important. I use those little 6" fans and put them right in the tray just above water leval.

With that said, plants do love to be watered more often. Specially if ur conditions are ideal. They just grow faster and bigger because of the constant nutrients at the root zone. In lying the problem of root issues.

I like to run benificials, so my take is keep your water cool and add stuff like GH vegan blend, sub cult. M and B and use lots of flora nectar to feed em.

There should be no problem (unless ur room is stagnant with high rh and lacks proper fresh air and fans) to water ur 4x4 rw 2x pday in veg and 3 in flower.
 

homebrewer

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Homebrew,

Could yu please give us a run down on your RW cube regiment from clone to flower?

Thanks!
I clone into rapid rooters, then plant in soil cups. When roots are established, I knock the dirt off of the roots and move the cuttings to 6" rockwool cubes. Two floods per day in veg and three in flower work well with my environment.

4" squared cubes watered twice a day max. sea of green with no veg time. temp 78-83, humidity 45-50. im not gonna lie the air flow isnt that good i gotta get more fans. i do have success though when i let the cubes get almost bone dry before watering and when i say bone dry im not kidding, watering like every 5 days the first 2-3 weeks and growth is slow
My plants would be dead if I watered every 5 days. It sounds like your temps and humidity are good, I'm just really surprised that you can't water multiple times a day without root issues. Even if I dunk a cube into water and set it on a desk, that cube dries out in 24 hours even without a plant in it.

What kind of hydro system/method are you running?
 

tree king

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I clone into rapid rooters, then plant in soil cups. When roots are established, I knock the dirt off of the roots and move the cuttings to 6" rockwool cubes. Two floods per day in veg and three in flower work well with my environment.

My plants would be dead if I watered every 5 days. It sounds like your temps and humidity are good, I'm just really surprised that you can't water multiple times a day without root issues. Even if I dunk a cube into water and set it on a desk, that cube dries out in 24 hours even without a plant in it.

What kind of hydro system/method are you running?
ebb n flow. i dont know what kind of rockwool you use but no way in hell the grodan cubes dry out in 24 hours. i use 4 inch squared grodan cubes and they take like a week to dry out. did you ever put the rockwool on a scale and see what % of the weight is gone before you water again?
 

Ogcurse

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I dont know if your using these rockwool cubes for clones, or as a growing medium, but if its your growing medium, fuck that. Switch to Hydroton or a 50/50 Perlite/Vermiculite mixture, or just straight perlite if your trying to save a few bucks.

Im using a DWC system.
 

tree king

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I dont know if your using these rockwool cubes for clones, or as a growing medium, but if its your growing medium, fuck that. Switch to Hydroton or a 50/50 Perlite/Vermiculite mixture, or just straight perlite if your trying to save a few bucks.

Im using a DWC system.
if i do a a 50/50 Perlite/Vermiculite mixture does it wick and soak up like a sponge? with 100% perlite i want coarse perlite right? im trying to find a medium that wicks but at the same time has alot more air to water ratio. the cubes im talkin about are in flower with no veg and homebrewer theres no puddle brotha
 

i81two

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if you want a medium that dries out fast then use hydroton.

My best yeilding plants were in hydroton.
 

nicedreamz

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Hey homebrewer are you using the B'CUZZ blocks? I'm using the Grodan as well and my blocks have been wet for 4 days under my 1K hps. It looked like that 's what you're using when i was following the GH vs DG thread? If so i'm guessing they must be different forms of RW? You said that yours will dry out in a day with no plant, mine would probly stay wet for a week under no light. Curious to know what the differences are.
 

i81two

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I do not cover my rw and the fans blow just over the top of them

You are supposed to cut 1/2" deep slits in the bottom of the rw in a X pattern. It helps them drain.

I read somewhere that a fully saturated rw cube still has something like 15% air still entraped in it.
 
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