Has anyone used a AIT Air Injection Technology "The Spider" Airstone?

AlphaPhase

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yeah bro, they are GREAT!!!!! I mean, my roots were so happy to see the AIT they engulfed it in a huge octopus hug lol. I definitely recommend them and if I can figure out a way to not have my roots tangle I will never look into another air stone.
 

Jason9922

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Got the Ait spiders in the mail today. Will report back with how they do.


hello, is there any way you could post or send me a photo of what it looked like when you opened the package and what it contained? I'm pretty sure I could easily make a few of these andv kind of wanted to copy their design. Cheaper than $45 on the four I need ya know & already have tons of plastic fittings and size hoses, and metal washers. Thanks!
 

thump easy

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You actually use an oxygen tank in your room? And you use a air stone made from lead? I'm not a hundred percent sure but both if those things, IMO, are not things that you would want to use. The oxygen tank is a big bomb waiting to go off and the lead, well its lead lol.
Lolz your smoked no way!!
 

WeedFreak78

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You actually use an oxygen tank in your room? And you use a air stone made from lead? I'm not a hundred percent sure but both if those things, IMO, are not things that you would want to use. The oxygen tank is a big bomb waiting to go off and the lead, well its lead lol.
So my 80 gal compressor that holds 200+psi in my garage is a "bomb waiting to happen"? Or my oxy/acetylene or my argon that could have thousands of psi in them? There are reasons these tanks get certified. Make sure your tanks are in cert. , keep caps on tanks that aren't in use, put a safety chain to the wall so it can't fall over..no problems.
 

AlphaPhase

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hello, is there any way you could post or send me a photo of what it looked like when you opened the package and what it contained? I'm pretty sure I could easily make a few of these andv kind of wanted to copy their design. Cheaper than $45 on the four I need ya know & already have tons of plastic fittings and size hoses, and metal washers. Thanks!
I don't have a pic besides this one on this page after I put it together. >>http://rollitup.org/t/has-anyone-used-a-ait-air-injection-technology-the-spider-airstone.848740/page-2

But if you can visualize, each section is a single piece held together buy a plastic hollow T coupler. It is very basic, if you can find the material that the tubing is made out of and find the little couplers that hold them together, you could easier build them. There is also a + coupler in the middle. Actually hang on, I'll get a pic of the couplers and the pieces for you, I have one laying around.
 

waterdawg

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So my 80 gal compressor that holds 200+psi in my garage is a "bomb waiting to happen"? Or my oxy/acetylene or my argon that could have thousands of psi in them? There are reasons these tanks get certified. Make sure your tanks are in cert. , keep caps on tanks that aren't in use, put a safety chain to the wall so it can't fall over..no problems.
Your compressor is not pure oxygen, its air, just air. And your oxygen/acetylene tank is not dumping pure oxygen into a room, its burning it so not what Im refering to. And argon is an inert gas so it'll just kill you if it displaces the air your breathing. I weld to lol. But I dont dump pure oxygen into my room as that is a bad ideal imo, but hey each to his own.
 

Jason9922

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I don't have a pic besides this one on this page after I put it together. >>http://rollitup.org/t/has-anyone-used-a-ait-air-injection-technology-the-spider-airstone.848740/page-2

But if you can visualize, each section is a single piece held together buy a plastic hollow T coupler. It is very basic, if you can find the material that the tubing is made out of and find the little couplers that hold them together, you could easier build them. There is also a + coupler in the middle. Actually hang on, I'll get a pic of the couplers and the pieces for you, I have one laying around.
I can only find that hosing sold by a company called aeroflo. You have to spend at least $150 and buy 100ft of it because it's pond hosing. But I might have found something cheaper & easier. You know those lens cleaning cloths that are kind of shiny and feel smooth as silk? Take a cottage cheese / small butter plastic container, cut a hole in the lid and leave about 3/4" of the actual lid piece so it snaps on the container with a open top. Take the cloth and wrap it around the top, then put the lid on over top, run some hot glue around it to hold in place, should of told ya to fill plastic dish with marbles hallway to weigh it down. Poke or drill a small hole somewhere along the bottom edge a little smaller than your air line so your air line will fit it tight. When you turn on the pump the lens cloth acts just like a rubber micro membrane diffuser. Here check out this, its where I found it, just trying to find a material that will work like the lens cloth but is bigger that 2" square to make a nicer larger one out of a nice sturdy container. The link to the video is below.

 

Jason9922

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I don't have a pic besides this one on this page after I put it together. >>http://rollitup.org/t/has-anyone-used-a-ait-air-injection-technology-the-spider-airstone.848740/page-2

But if you can visualize, each section is a single piece held together buy a plastic hollow T coupler. It is very basic, if you can find the material that the tubing is made out of and find the little couplers that hold them together, you could easier build them. There is also a + coupler in the middle. Actually hang on, I'll get a pic of the couplers and the pieces for you, I have one laying around.
I couldn't find the material or that porous hosing anywhere, but I did find the same type 9" AIT spider like diffuser for $11.95!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hydroponics-Air-Stone-or-9-Spider-for-a-3-5-or-5-gallon-bucket-Awsome-growth/261290265903?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid=555012&algo=PW.MBE&ao=1&asc=29005&meid=a6e69749cde046039b2fb8665ae79794&pid=100010&rk=10&rkt=19&sd=111622706934



I bought 4 of them!! They look awesome when they run, Is yours working really well? I was a little worried that I could over oxygenate the water with all 4 of these running off my 1400 GPH commercial pump because my large pump doesn't have an adjustment.
 

WeedFreak78

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Wouldn't a loop of air line poked with a pin do the same thing? I've done it on a smaller scale, just need to heat the pin so it melts a hole rather than just piercing. You can also use a single strand of copper wire to get really small holes, just time consuming.
 

AlphaPhase

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I couldn't find the material or that porous hosing anywhere, but I did find the same type 9" AIT spider like diffuser for $11.95!!! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hydroponics-Air-Stone-or-9-Spider-for-a-3-5-or-5-gallon-bucket-Awsome-growth/261290265903?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid=555012&algo=PW.MBE&ao=1&asc=29005&meid=a6e69749cde046039b2fb8665ae79794&pid=100010&rk=10&rkt=19&sd=111622706934



I bought 4 of them!! They look awesome when they run, Is yours working really well? I was a little worried that I could over oxygenate the water with all 4 of these running off my 1400 GPH commercial pump because my large pump doesn't have an adjustment.
Right on man, I got the same ones :) They work well, I'm not sure what my air pump is in LPM or GPH, but my pump is 34watts and I have used them with 4-6 3.5gallon buckets. Just watch for the roots, they grow so fast and tend to start growing around the air stone (pain in the ass to untangle them)
 

AlphaPhase

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Wouldn't a loop of air line poked with a pin do the same thing? I've done it on a smaller scale, just need to heat the pin so it melts a hole rather than just piercing. You can also use a single strand of copper wire to get really small holes, just time consuming.
This could work, but the spider diffusers have thousands of holes, it would take some time and a steady hand I think to make one. I think the holes are fairy small, much smaller than a pin hole I think, but not positive.
 

Jason9922

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Wouldn't a loop of air line poked with a pin do the same thing? I've done it on a smaller scale, just need to heat the pin so it melts a hole rather than just piercing. You can also use a single strand of copper wire to get really small holes, just time consuming.
Yeah that would work but it's not the same, The diffuser hosing is made of an EPMD porous material and that is how it creates such tiny .5 - 1 micron size air bubbles. I'm not positive but it seems like that wouldn't be possible using drip line hose. Even if you used a syringe the holes would still be to big. Rather than spend the time on getting that porous pond hosing, T fittings, then the time to build each one, $11.95 is cheap enough for me. Originally the ones I was looking at were $22 - $35. Plus these are set up to work perfect with my 4 outlet 7 liter per extra quiet air pump. Rather than use my commercial air pump with manifolds and crazy amounts of crappy air stones.

Now I just need to figure out how I'm going to run my plumbing in my RDWC. I got 3/4" flex hose for in / out on each side of module but now I have General Hydroponics drip ring kits with drain level tubes and the drip rings are powered using an air pump. So should I have a 3/4" circulation line with the drip rings? Or I also have 1/2" manifold that has eight 1/4" outlets, I was going to run two 1/4" lines into the buckets with a 360' spinning head on one and a "fogger" or atomizer head on the other with the idea being the two mist and fog heads drain at the bottom back to reservoir. Now I don't know which way to use, 3/4" circulation + drip ring or two 1/4" lines with mister heads spraying net pots draining to a 3/4" return line? Any advice?
 

Jason9922

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Right on man, I got the same ones :) They work well, I'm not sure what my air pump is in LPM or GPH, but my pump is 34watts and I have used them with 4-6 3.5gallon buckets. Just watch for the roots, they grow so fast and tend to start growing around the air stone (pain in the ass to untangle them)
Depends on how I plumb my buckets. If I intake with two 1/4" spray heads I planned to use a second bucket to drain into with a micron screen in the top one. I read this drainage from the top bucket to the bottom creating a small water fall effect is good for DO & I read so are the atomizing heads. That's why I need to decide how I'm going to plumb this dam setup!!

I got 3/4" flex hose for in / out on each side of module but now I have General Hydroponics drip ring kits with drain level tubes and the drip rings are powered using an air pump. So should I have a 3/4" circulation line with the drip rings? Or I also have 1/2" manifold that has eight 1/4" outlets, I was going to run two 1/4" lines into the buckets with a 360' spinning head on one and a "fogger" or atomizer head on the other with the idea being the two mist and fog heads drain at the bottom back to reservoir. Now I don't know which way to use, 3/4" circulation + drip ring or two 1/4" lines with mister heads spraying net pots draining to a 3/4" return line? Any advice?
 

ttystikk

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Well if it straight DWC not sure if there is a choice. That does look like it will provide lots of surface agitation. I really have no clue but would even a couple of teed tubes weighted at the end provide bigger bubbles to help get DO in water? I did a DWC system a while back (20 years lol) and stones kept plugging up lol.
A small pump in the bottom of a DWC bucket that pushes the water to the surface works great, as does having a short length of tubing that clears the water's surface. Look up 'flooming' for a more in depth explanation.
 

bigwood247

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Your compressor is not pure oxygen, its air, just air. And your oxygen/acetylene tank is not dumping pure oxygen into a room, its burning it so not what Im refering to. And argon is an inert gas so it'll just kill you if it displaces the air your breathing. I weld to lol. But I dont dump pure oxygen into my room as that is a bad ideal imo, but hey each to his own.
Y is dumping pure o2 in a room not a good idea i k now it would be expensive to do but i really dont see a saftey issue unlesss u do it inproperly
 
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