Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

LionsRoor

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Any thoughts on my PPM question - should I be using the CF or EC scale? I have plants in the veg unit for about 5 days and I started noticing patches of bronze/copper coloring on the fan leaves. Would this be from running the wrong PPM number?
PPM and EC are just different forms of measuring the same thing... it's like deciding upon using inches or centimeters to measure the length of an object. Most meters today use 700 PPM = 1.0 ms - so 2.0 ms = 1400 ppm. Your plants won't know the difference - as long as you do!
 

sdkid

Active Member
Guys i need some quick help on my grow room. I plan on running all the system in one room. Is that even possible? The room is 12'long,8.5'wide, and 8' tall. I plan on running HO flour for the clones(2 bulbs, the cooler white one correct?), 400MH lights for the veg, either 600HPS or 1k HPS for the flowering. I dont plan on running CO2 anytime soon yet, so is it possible to run it all in the same room?
 

westmich

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PPM and EC are just different forms of measuring the same thing... it's like deciding upon using inches or centimeters to measure the length of an object. Most meters today use 700 PPM = 1.0 ms - so 2.0 ms = 1400 ppm. Your plants won't know the difference - as long as you do!
Thanks, but that doesn't really answer my question. Instructions say to set nutrients at 2000 PPM, but which scale. I am either going to be too high or too low if I am using the wrong scale.
 

jblwired

Active Member
Sure - good portable units work really well... people forget they have to be ducted, exhausted, etc to work effectively. This can sometimes be hard to do - especially to outside - requiring you to cut a hole in the side of the house! Venting your portable out of the bathroom will, at least, require a hole in the door.
This is just a quick thought on the whole portable A/C situation that Southern Grower has encountered.

A very thin, very wide ducting adapter could be fashioned at the bottom of the door on the inside to hook the portable A/Cs exhaust to. Maybe something 12" deep into the room, as wide as the door, and just an inch tall. Then if you have a 4" round duct, it can be attached to the adapter to blow the exhaust out from under the door. The door may have to be cut down, but how big a deal is an inch gap under it. If the adapter was sturdy enough then you could just step on it walking in, if not, just step over it. The adapter shoud DEFINITLY be tapered up on the hookup side to not choke the round duct, or have to squish it at all.
 

jblwired

Active Member
thanks i took toilet & tub out could i duct the exhaust to the sewer where the toilet was its caped off now. thanks again
WOW! GROSS!!! This is both absolutely genius and the grossest thing I have ever heard of. I would have never thought of this, nor would I do it, so maybe that's why I never thought of it. Lol. I hope any of you, that are using this method, never get a sewage backup. Not only does your own shit come back to haunt you, but so does your neighbors. Lol. I'll bet this post gets some poeple to re-thinking thier stategy. Lol At least with the toilet still down there, there would be a little buffer from the shit your eventually going to have to put up with!
 

jblwired

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Has anybody tried adding oxygen to the roots. Oxygen is more dangerous than CO2. The effects on growth might be more startling than CO2

In my system I use a 12V battery and RV pumps. Controlling 12V is a lot easier than 110V or 240V 555 timers are cheap. It is possible to control the system with a computer or microcontroller.
I still have a bit of work to do both with the plants and control system.

I have finally read all the pages and my brain nips but the knowledge and kindness of all the stinkbuddies is a fantastic example and I love it
THANK YOU VERY MUCH Hengis!!! 12 volt systems are the way to go! 555 timer kits are soooooo easy to build too, but no one but a couple of people seems to hold much interest for this. I've heard from some that it sounds way too complicated.

I also have been wondering about adding oxygen to the roots. I have put the clear air line in pots with dirt, after riddled it full of tiny holes, adding an air pump to force air in, and figuring it was helping ward off root rot, over-watering problems, and promoting faster growth. Air sure seemed to help, a HELL of a lot, in dirt.

I'm theorizing like this; a sealed grow tube, with a p-trap below it to let water out, but keep gases in(like a sink lets water go down but keeps sewer gases out of your house). I figure a controller and sensor would be needed for the oxygen supply, and having to find the ideal PPM range in the tube. I think we might really be on to something now! I'm going for it! As long as it isn't complicated.

P.S. I'm just fucking with you Dirt. I still love you man. Lol. ALL criticism is greatly appreciated and needed for progression of ANY system. And BTW, Awesome work with Stinks' method.
 

Realclosetgreenz

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i have a septic tank
If its filtered it might be fine, although i believe septic tanks utilize natural bateria to break down waste(rid-x,etc) This releases gas's that also help breakdown solids, I dont know if its a good idea to stir this stuff up. You better just filter and release into an area below the house.
 

jblwired

Active Member
Yeah but your plant will stretch like crazy and your yield will be crappy. If you do manage to get anything, the main stem will probably be too weak to support the buds.
:peace:
Really. I'm also wondering what you are talking about the clones stretching from.
 

jblwired

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Hey Stink! Where are you at? Hows are things going? Please teach us a little more of your stink wisdom, show us some bud porn, or at least let us know your alive. Maybe it's just me, but I'm wondering what happened to you. Did I miss a "I'll be away for a while" message or something?

You know what you guys and gals? I pray for all of you everyday, that everything is ok in your worlds, and that none of you get electrocuted by your line voltage pumps or anything. Be careful with that shit. That's why I like 12 volt stuff.

Everyone take care. I got to go rebuild a carb., 35 miles away, one way. It's a long drive :-(

BTW. I'm fixing to post a cute little Paint pic that I made up of my proposed, used auto parts aero system, and my poor little trashed, overheated Mom. I just got to figure out how to do the pic upload thing. I want to and never have. Can anyone tell me how to easily get a pic on this site? Where is the best place to upload them and all?
 

southern homegrower

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WOW! GROSS!!! This is both absolutely genius and the grossest thing I have ever heard of. I would have never thought of this, nor would I do it, so maybe that's why I never thought of it. Lol. I hope any of you, that are using this method, never get a sewage backup. Not only does your own shit come back to haunt you, but so does your neighbors. Lol. I'll bet this post gets some poeple to re-thinking thier stategy. Lol At least with the toilet still down there, there would be a little buffer from the shit your eventually going to have to put up with!
man my house is 4 ft off the ground with a a sewer vent that is 2 ft off the ground the vent is 6 ich it will not back up in to my house it is made that way so u dont get sewer back up in ur house with an over flow tank so if it does back up it will go to the over flow tank befor it ever reaches the vent and if it fills the over flow tank then it would come out of the vent that is out side . it could not backup into the house unless it filled my hole yard with sewage to over 3 1/2 foot this is not city sewer
 

BIGTIMEROOFERR

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hey stinkbuds
when its flower time do you start counting the weeks when you first put the lights on 12/12
or when they start to show there sex
thanks for any help
 

jblwired

Active Member
man my house is 4 ft off the ground with a a sewer vent that is 2 ft off the ground the vent is 6 ich it will not back up in to my house it is made that way so u dont get sewer back up in ur house with an over flow tank so if it does back up it will go to the over flow tank befor it ever reaches the vent and if it fills the over flow tank then it would come out of the vent that is out side . it could not backup into the house unless it filled my hole yard with sewage to over 3 1/2 foot this is not city sewer
Awesome! You got it under control! My advice is for people who don't know anything about thier house, property or sewer lines. Funny thing is, is that my shit backed up in this rental house that I live in, about once a week, for like three or four weeks, but never did it again for the 6 years I have been here. I checked all the lines and there was no blockage. Must have been a city sewer problem I figure.
 

jblwired

Active Member
hey stinkbuds
when its flower time do you start counting the weeks when you first put the lights on 12/12
or when they start to show there sex
thanks for any help
Howdey BigTime. I am about 95% sure that a person would start counting down the days to finish right after going to 12/12. That's what I do. Do I need corrected anyone?
 

GringoLoco

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hey stinkbuds
when its flower time do you start counting the weeks when you first put the lights on 12/12
or when they start to show there sex
thanks for any help
Different strains can start flowering at different times, also if you started from seed they can take longer if they aren't mature - I always start counting from when they first flower.
 

sssdad

Active Member
Guys i need some quick help on my grow room. I plan on running all the system in one room. Is that even possible? The room is 12'long,8.5'wide, and 8' tall. I plan on running HO flour for the clones(2 bulbs, the cooler white one correct?), 400MH lights for the veg, either 600HPS or 1k HPS for the flowering. I dont plan on running CO2 anytime soon yet, so is it possible to run it all in the same room?
dude you can not flower and veg in the same room period...... they have to be seperated period.
 

sdkid

Active Member
dude you can not flower and veg in the same room period...... they have to be seperated period.
Is there any reasons behind that? Answers like that does not really show nor prove anything. Give me some factual information that i cant :shock:
 
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