Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

robotninja said:

Just wondering if I wanted to do a small scale version of your setup, how big of a res would I need for a 6 pot version of your cloner/vegger? Stick with the 18 gal beast?

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Here is a picture of my experimental 6 hole unit. I still use a 396 GPH pump but I scaled down res to 10 gal.

It's working great. Eventually I'm going to draw up some plans. I just need some spare time.

Picasso345 said:

Can anybody recommend a specific brand of pump? My local guy carries EcoPlus submersible pumps - are these reliable?

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I use the Ecoplus 396. It has a built in filter which is nice.

Always have a spare pump handy. You won't need one right away but if your pump breaks and you don't have a spare, you are fucked within a few hours.

Remember, pumps only break on the day the hydro shop is closed.

Same with C02. It only runs out after 5PM on Friday.

Hey Buddy,

Looks like those girls are reaching the ceiling soon.

What is the purpose of the PVC hand rails ?
Are they part of the plumbing ?,
or part of the stand ?
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bubblerking said:

put your netting up with 2 to 3 levels zip tie the netting to the pvc stand whats so great about netting is when the plants are sleeping they bend and droop when they have the netting they produce bigger fatter buds because all the energy goes in to the bud and not helping the droopy branch hope this makes sense if you try the netting you will never bread tie a branch again hope this helps you already have a bad ass system this will make it better trust me peace

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My last batch of buds where so phat that I couldn't keep them all up. Attaching the net to the frame would keep the buds up and still let me move my systems around.

I might try it with my new batch I just put into flower. I'm thinking the local hydro store may have some netting. If not I'm sure it would be easy to make your own with some string.

With the net we wouldn't need the center plant supports, just the outside.

I was also thinking if I made all the supports the same height and drill small holes, I could run string like shoelaces and have sturdy net.

Thanks again bro!

Earl said:

Hey Buddy,

Looks like those girls are reaching the ceiling soon.

What is the purpose of the PVC hand rails ?
Are they part of the plumbing ?,
or part of the stand ?
.

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First off I feel honored that you would take the time to read my thread. You are one of the few grow masters around here that actually know your shit. I've read many of your posts and you never spread misinformation. Right on bro!

Anyway, the "hand rails" are actually the plants supports. They also help to sturdy the frame.

I attach the plants to the PVC with bread ties. There is virtually no support from the roots so you need something to hold the plants up.

I really like the idea of using some sort of a net between the posts though. It might be the best solution.

Thanks for stopping by!

For everyone else...listen to Earl, he knows his shit!

StinkBud said:

My last batch of buds where so phat that I couldn't keep them all up. Attaching the net to the frame would keep the buds up and still let me move my systems around.

I might try it with my new batch I just put into flower. I'm thinking the local hydro store may have some netting. If not I'm sure it would be easy to make your own with some string.

With the net we wouldn't need the center plant supports, just the outside.

I was also thinking if I made all the supports the same height and drill small holes, I could run string like shoelaces and have sturdy net.

Thanks again bro!

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Lol, I like this idea too, you know I kinda like it so much I think I suggested it about 60+ pages ago. Hehe, no biggy, I'm lookin forward to seeing what happens if you try it. I had suggested you try it on the little system when you first built it. I thought it might help since you where gonna run sativas in it. Have a good one Stink, TC

Hey Stink, After doing the 1:5 timer, I noticed that the roots were still wet when the pump came back on. I figured they needed a lot more O2 than they were getting and I also wondered if it was really necessary to give more than a few seconds in the ON cycle. I mean, as long as they get thoroughly wet, what good would more do? So I'm running mine at maybe 20 seconds on and about 15 min off. My plants are doing great.

I decided to start a journal. check it out.

picasso345 said:

i'm no expert, but my understanding is that all the pvc glue you buy at a home depot, et al are safe for water pipes once it has dried.

The glue smells so nasty that i've always wondered the same thing as i work on projects around the house over the years. I look at it this way - 99% of the people who buy the stuff are using the glue for water piping around the house, so unless it says in giant letters on the glue not fit for potable water supplies - someone would be looking at huge lawsuits.

That doesn't mean it is safe of course, just that i don't worry about it i guess, lol. Maybe we have an expert here....

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you are the man!

StinkBud said:

Here is a picture of my experimental 6 hole unit. I still use a 396 GPH pump but I scaled down res to 10 gal.

It's working great. Eventually I'm going to draw up some plans. I just need some spare time.

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Cool beans, thats exactly what I'm lookin to build. Going in a sliding door closet 2' deep x 8' wide and like 8' tall. This would be perfect for my size limitations.

Since your sporting a 10gal res, whats the recalculations of your nutes? And is a 400w overkill or just right for 6 plants?

This thread is the best on RIU!

I would think that you add the nutes the same way as the bigger units...just add slowly until you reach the desired level (1500ppm) first week of flower up to (2000) 2nd week.

robotninja said:

Cool beans, thats exactly what I'm lookin to build. Going in a sliding door closet 2' deep x 8' wide and like 8' tall. This would be perfect for my size limitations.

Since your sporting a 10gal res, whats the recalculations of your nutes? And is a 400w overkill or just right for 6 plants?

This thread is the best on RIU!

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hey man.. im doing 5 plants under 400 watt hps and abotu another 100 cfl....

Ill be buying the 600 watt here for christmas...

do yourself the favor and go with 600 for bud all the way to the bottom..ya dig?



Not that the 400 does bad.... it just doesnt have the depth like we want... max it will grow good at 17 inches down the plant....im looking for something double that.... 34 to 40 inches depth of growth on the plant...

genfranco said:

hey man.. im doing 5 plants under 400 watt hps and abotu another 100 cfl....

Ill be buying the 600 watt here for christmas...

do yourself the favor and go with 600 for bud all the way to the bottom..ya dig?



Not that the 400 does bad.... it just doesnt have the depth like we want... max it will grow good at 17 inches down the plant....im looking for something double that.... 34 to 40 inches depth of growth on the plant...

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Yeah a 600 would be nice, but I'v spent enough on supplys already so the 400 I already have will have to do for now. I'll just mylar the hell out of the room.

Also how hot do those 600's get? My flower room is only 2'x4'x8' and I live in southern california, summers can get warm

robotninja said:

Yeah a 600 would be nice, but I'v spent enough on supplys already so the 400 I already have will have to do for now. I'll just mylar the hell out of the room.

Also how hot do those 600's get? My flower room is only 2'x4'x8' and I live in southern california, summers can get warm

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well if you already bought it... then your like me... hehe... it doesnt do it bad... youll just be able to see in peoples pics.... lol... heat is allways an issue.
My summer grow is usually outdoors... but i did one indoors in june i beleave and it was hot as hell... but then again i grow in my garage...so kinda hard to cool it off.... my first grow was in a smaller space than that... like 3 feet wide 1 1/2 feet deep...



If you grow with AC then your good.


Now i only use that cabinet for veg...

StinkBud said:

My last batch of buds where so phat that I couldn't keep them all up. Attaching the net to the frame would keep the buds up and still let me move my systems around.

I might try it with my new batch I just put into flower. I'm thinking the local hydro store may have some netting. If not I'm sure it would be easy to make your own with some string.

With the net we wouldn't need the center plant supports, just the outside.

I was also thinking if I made all the supports the same height and drill small holes, I could run string like shoelaces and have sturdy net.

Thanks again bro!

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No worries bro the netting is like 8 bucks at any hydro shop and again love the system bad ass

robotninja, if you have the 400 watt light use it, use could always just lolipop them since the 400 wont have the penetration that a 600 or 1000 watt light has. good luck with whatever method u use!

hate to keep asking questions but theres always help at this thread. whats a CHEAP form of mylar like i need to deck out my closet.its 7x3 feet if it matters but mylar is kinda expensive and from what i THINK its only sold in strips. ANY HELP WOULD BE AWESOME! +rep

happyface said:

hate to keep asking questions but theres always help at this thread. whats a CHEAP form of mylar like i need to deck out my closet.its 7x3 feet if it matters but mylar is kinda expensive and from what i THINK its only sold in strips. ANY HELP WOULD BE AWESOME! +rep

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If you wait until the day after Xmas you can get get mylar-like wrapping paper CHEAP. You may be able to now at Wally world or the like anyways.

Hello Everyone,
Has been 3 weeks and is time to change out the nutes in the Veg unit. I still have 1 galon jug with 1/4 full of nutes. Can I still use these nutes or should I make a fresh batch???
If 3 weeks is too long , what's a safe timeframe to use them up.

happyface said:

hate to keep asking questions but theres always help at this thread. whats a CHEAP form of mylar like i need to deck out my closet.its 7x3 feet if it matters but mylar is kinda expensive and from what i THINK its only sold in strips. ANY HELP WOULD BE AWESOME! +rep

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try the "shelby mall or shelbymall " online its in Shelby ohio (ohigho) the store is called Glenns Surplus , they sell army surplus stuff there and other things. I just bought two 4' rolls that are either 50 or 100 ft long and they were only $13 each. it looks just like a mirror , infact I put a strip over my bed like a mirror. Hope this helps