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Alganj

Alganj

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Can stink or anyone help me out here. I am in process of building all of stinkbuds systems to specs. PLEASE HELP

Question:
You said : I keep my humidity below 60% and have a 200 CFM fan that vents into the attic to keep humidity in check.

If your room is 100% sealed for CO2 purposes, then if you vent the room into the attic, doesnt that suck your CO2 out of the room as well? How do you overcome this obstacle to keep the CO2 levels up? Thanks alot.

Much Respect.

BigNoob
 
JimmyT

JimmyT

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petersonscott79 said:
I have never grown so any advice with a tent and this system is wanted. How tall from the ground (including res and pvc supports) is the top of the plant at harvest? The tent I am looking at is only 6'5" tall. I dont want to change the original setup any more then I have to but I thought I may have to to accommodate taller plants. I have plant restrictions also so I can only flower 9 at any one time for right now so I am having the flower unit as a 3 post 3 hole setup if I can.

How much room does each planet need in the flowering stage with this Aero/NFT setup?
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At 6.5', you'll be fine. I've got a similar setup and my light mover runs on a track back and forth. With the reflector and intellidrive motor, I'm sacrificing almost a foot of height. My reservoir and 6" tubes add about 2.5' leaving me at roughly 3.5' of workable growing height. I thought it wouldn't be enough height but, with the aid of super-cropping and the proper strains, you'll realize it's plenty.

As you may have seen from the first several posts from Stink, you'll notice that he has them spaced out at 7"x12". Still, others argue that it should be 10"x12" or even 12"x12". Whichever way you decide to go in your quest for perfection and efficiency, it will always trace its way back to the particular strain/s you're dealing with:leaf:
 
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nitrofish

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Alganj said:
Can stink or anyone help me out here. I am in process of building all of stinkbuds systems to specs. PLEASE HELP

Question:
You said : I keep my humidity below 60% and have a 200 CFM fan that vents into the attic to keep humidity in check.

If your room is 100% sealed for CO2 purposes, then if you vent the room into the attic, doesnt that suck your CO2 out of the room as well? How do you overcome this obstacle to keep the CO2 levels up? Thanks alot.

Much Respect.

BigNoob
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He only does that in an emergency IF it goes above 60% in RH. Which he say's rarely happens. And he has the CO2 automatically shut down when the exhaust fan comes on to relieve the high humidity.
 
1906

1906

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my understanding is that using either a controller or timers when you need to vent you turn off you co2 and vent out the humidity. you do suck out your co2 along with the everything else but as soon as the vent van turns off you have the co2 recharge the space to proper levels which i believe is 1500. a controller will do this or you can do it with timers turning one on and the other off and then the co2 back on. with out a meter to measure co2 you need to calculate what your spaces needs - how much co2 at what rate of flow for how long to get your space to the right levels again. i had a website that has a good calulator for this but i can't seem to find it.

hope that helps - I am also new to this.

BigNoob[/QUOTE]

Alganj said:
Can stink or anyone help me out here. I am in process of building all of stinkbuds systems to specs. PLEASE HELP

Question:
You said : I keep my humidity below 60% and have a 200 CFM fan that vents into the attic to keep humidity in check.

If your room is 100% sealed for CO2 purposes, then if you vent the room into the attic, doesnt that suck your CO2 out of the room as well? How do you overcome this obstacle to keep the CO2 levels up? Thanks alot.

Much Respect.
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1906

1906

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Thanks stink and everyone else on here. newbie here and have built the first 2 stages. The cloner and veg. are working great - thanks again stink. I did change out the tubs to something a little bigger accommodating more plant stations with a little more space between them. Now I am building the flower station in a tent. what I would like to do is have 2 stations in tent with 8 ft fence posts instead of 4 ft like the plans. My question is will the 396 pumps be able to handle double the sprayers and pipe length. if not I could build 4 shorter stations running the other way in my tent but then there are 4 reservoirs instead of 2 to maintain. for me 2 cycles per 90 days is fine so I don't need any more than 2 reservoirs. If the 396 pump can’t do the job any recommendations on a different pump that could. Any help would be appreciated.


thanks
 
krizmac

krizmac

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Alganj said:
Stink,

Question:
You said : I keep my humidity below 60% and have a 200 CFM fan that vents into the attic to keep humidity in check.

If your room is 100% sealed for CO2 purposes, then if you vent the room into the attic, doesnt that suck your CO2 out of the room as well? How do you overcome this obsticle to keep the CO2 levels up? Thanks alot.

Much Respect.

BigNoob
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one of the best ways i have seen to keep a room cool while keeping your co2 inside, is to use cooltubes on your lights. this means that the ans aren't moving the c02 air in the grow room, only the heated ait in the lights. also, it is more cost-effective as you don't need as large of a fan.

hope that helped a bit!
 
JimmyT

JimmyT

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1906 said:
Thanks stink and everyone else on here. newbie here and have built the first 2 stages. The cloner and veg. are working great - thanks again stink. I did change out the tubs to something a little bigger accommodating more plant stations with a little more space between them. Now I am building the flower station in a tent. what I would like to do is have 2 stations in tent with 8 ft fence posts instead of 4 ft like the plans. My question is will the 396 pumps be able to handle double the sprayers and pipe length. if not I could build 4 shorter stations running the other way in my tent but then there are 4 reservoirs instead of 2 to maintain. for me 2 cycles per 90 days is fine so I don't need any more than 2 reservoirs. If the 396 pump can’t do the job any recommendations on a different pump that could. Any help would be appreciated.


thanks
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396gph x 2(twice the amount of sprayers) = 792gph

Get yourself a pump rated at 800gph or more and you should have no worries. Some will say that you need to keep heat build-up within the reservoir in check if you're going to increase the amount of gph. However, imo, a pump turning on for a minute or less every 5-10 minutes won't affect water temps dramatically.

And if it's the size of the connectors that come with each pump that concerns you then just do what I do. I use 1/2" diameter hose to connect the sprayer piece apparatus to the tip of the water pump. It gives me more freedom to move things around this way

Here's an example:leaf:
 
1906

1906

Member
You know I'm running 18 sprayers in my veg unit off a 396 with out any problems but that's a far cry from 28. i just have several spare 396's laying around so i will try and see if one can handle it. I like your 1/2 hose connection by the way - like you say more flexibility.

Is it the number of sprayers that matter or the pipe length or both?
 
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RobertInAz

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thegoodkelly said:
I am noobier than most. This is my first post. Sorry that I didn't wait beyond page 14 all the way to page 800-something, in case you've answered this. I have SOME patience, just not THAT much. I am a girl with cancer and power tools scare me. I am sure I will take off a finger or something. I would love to build my own, but if it involves a swiftly moving sharp part, it is best that i don't attempt it. I have found homemade aero cloners for sale on eBay for under $30. Do you think I could start your system with something like that?

I'm on my first grow now, flowering stage of a DWC, bought 5 feminized seeds from Amsterdam. Looking good to my untrained eye. I will probably start a journal soon because most of my time is spent fixing my mistakes and I've taken copious notes.

I have lost 16 pounds in the last two months and I didn't need to lose it. I HAVE to make this work because it is the only thing that helps me.

Is there any way to do it without power tools?

Thanks for any help you can provide! xoxo
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Hi Kelly, if you are anywhere near the Phoenix AZ area, I can help you.
Robert in Arizona
 
jeeba

jeeba

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Hi all new to forum and growing in general,was wondering what increasing the net pot/size of post/pipe would do for me?Does a 2inch net pot yield more as opposed to 3.75?I read alot of this thread not all of it,but didnt see anything touching on this point.Thanks in advance.
 
Alganj

Alganj

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Does anyone know what temperature Stinkbud runs his cloner at?
Im setting up my cloner and the night / day temps are 70 night- 80-84 during the day. Is that too hot? 80 seems like the max. Im thinking 75-80 max.....what do you all think?
 
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budman2014

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Hey Stink i have a question. can you leave your plants in darkness for more than 12 hrs if you needed to ? would that mess things up past the point of return? or just make the total time longer?
 
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RobertInAz

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Hi,
Have a question: I just started a Stinkbud-type cloner, and sprouted some seeds in it several days ago. The all popped and are growing quickly, but they appear to be developing too much stretch -- they are tall and thin. I have them about 10" under two 48" x 40 watt 6500 fluorescents, which, I believe, is about what Stickbud runs. Anybody know why this might be happening?
Thanx, Bob
 
JimmyT

JimmyT

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RobertInAz said:
Hi,
Have a question: I just started a Stinkbud-type cloner, and sprouted some seeds in it several days ago. The all popped and are growing quickly, but they appear to be developing too much stretch -- they are tall and thin. I have them about 10" under two 48" x 40 watt 6500 fluorescents, which, I believe, is about what Stickbud runs. Anybody know why this might be happening?
Thanx, Bob
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Depending on what kind of floros and strain. If you're using T8 bulbs, they need to be much closer than that. If they are T5 High Outputs then 10" is fine and could still get closer. If it's a Sativa dominant strain then there's nothing you can do about that. Well, you could LST, top, and/or supercrop:leaf:
 
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RobertInAz

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Hi JimmyT,
Thanks for the help, Jimmy ...you kind of supported what I was thinking myself. I think the deal is that SB runs floros for clones, which don't need to grow more leaf, just roots. Seedlings, on the other hand, need both. I have switched to my 8x48 T5s w/ 6 bulbs at 6500 and 2 bulbs at 2700, and I'll see if that does the trick.
Thanks again, Bob
 
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RobertInAz

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Hi again,
It just occurred to me that I've maybe been making a mistake with my seedlings: , as per my understanding of the Stinkbud method, I started some seeds in rapid rooters set into 2" net pots w/ a 15 minute on/off pump schedule, but I put in Clonex ...should I be using the regular veg formula instead? The seedlings are about a week old at this point and look OK.
Thanx again in advance, Bob
 
JimmyT

JimmyT

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Just replace the water completely if you're ready to start vegging them and give them the proper nute formula. It should be very low considering young seedlings only need the bare minimum of nutrients. Work your way up as they get more vigorous:leaf:
 
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