Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Aeroweed

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I appreciate the responses but nobody really answered my question about plant height and yield. Also the CO2 question.
There's too many variables to guess at height/yield. Beginning with plant strain. The Stink system isn't the cheapest, but it works great. Try looking on Craigs list for lights. There are usually some pretty good deals on there.

You can flower without CO2. Then with the $ you've saved by growing your own, add either CO2 tanks or a propane burner later. The posts I've read about the bucket CO2 don't really sound like a good option.

Hope this helps you. :peace:
 

jblwired

Active Member
Maybe I can help a little with the PVC toxicity question. Heating white PVC somewhere from 100-120 degrees will give off a little something I know, but it's no going to be verm much or continue for very long. White PVC is safe for drinking water so I assume it's ok to grow plants, then smoke them. I can't remember, but I don't think pvc is on the list of micronutriants that these plants require anyway. I doubt any PVC we use ever gets warm enough to ever leach much of anything, unless we have really hot rooms. I have extensive experience as a pro plumber and as far as I know, PVC may add a little bit of a plastic taste but that's about all, and it goes away real quick after running a little water through the lines. The yellow looking CPVC is designed for hot water, so it can handle way hotter temps without leaching anything into the water. Have you ever left a bottle of drinking water out in the heat of summer or somewhere hot, then drink some cause it's better than nothing, and then notice the taste of plastic? You don't get that plastic taste if the water bottle only gets to 85 or 90 degrees. Hope this helps a little. I personally would not worry at all, although, fence posts were not really made for drinking water. :-)
 

jblwired

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Damn! According to my stats, I have a very small dick, and it doesn't hardly get used at all! Lol. (Yeah, I read it ALL) Once again, please accept my apologise for my spelling errors. I got things more fun to do other than going back and checking for errors. Peace out! :-)
 

WhiteDiamond

Active Member
Maybe I can help a little with the PVC toxicity question. Heating white PVC somewhere from 100-120 degrees will give off a little something I know, but it's no going to be verm much or continue for very long. White PVC is safe for drinking water so I assume it's ok to grow plants, then smoke them. I can't remember, but I don't think pvc is on the list of micronutriants that these plants require anyway. I doubt any PVC we use ever gets warm enough to ever leach much of anything, unless we have really hot rooms. I have extensive experience as a pro plumber and as far as I know, PVC may add a little bit of a plastic taste but that's about all, and it goes away real quick after running a little water through the lines. The yellow looking CPVC is designed for hot water, so it can handle way hotter temps without leaching anything into the water. Have you ever left a bottle of drinking water out in the heat of summer or somewhere hot, then drink some cause it's better than nothing, and then notice the taste of plastic? You don't get that plastic taste if the water bottle only gets to 85 or 90 degrees. Hope this helps a little. I personally would not worry at all, although, fence posts were not really made for drinking water. :-)
just the answer i was looking for! thanks kiss-ass+rep
 

LionsRoor

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Hey Stink,

I want to start off by thanking you and the other posters who provided so much knowledge about the subject matter to us noobs. :clap:

I have two questions..

1.) What do you guys do about smell (odor), how do you mask or remove it so that you can remain stealth.

2.) A - Would it work if instead of building the Areo/NFT system, I can just use a Rubbermaid similar to the veg system and grow one BIG ASS PLANT (similar to a Christmas tree :weed:).
2.) B - How big would the tree be in order to harvest a pound? How long will I have to veg the tree?

I am also looking at an alternative to CO2, this system looks like it will be expensive (the lights alone could run you half a grand) I wanted to know if there was an alternative to a CO2 tank?
While it is possible to flower with the veg unit - you will have issues. Plant support is a problem, but more importantly, res access becomes an issue. It's hard to get into the bottom res to check your P's, res level, and then to add nutes and PH, etc... If you want to use just one unit - build the MiniStink Flower Unit. I just built one for my sister and it is the bomb! Drill it with 3 holes per 2' post - use as many sites as you want (just 1 would be cool!)

To produce a pound from one plant, you will need to veg for several weeks (months) (as Matty pointed out). The exact time will depend upon the strain and the environment it is grown in. Generally - to get a pound off one plant, it will need to be 6' minimum and even bigger around. Most people can not grow such monsters indoors due to space constraints. The reason the Stink system has 7" spacing on the plant sites is for efficiency. Using more, smaller, closely spaced plants, we are able to reduce our veg time to a few weeks or less (some go zero veg!). Not only can we produce that pound of bud more quickly than veging out a single plant for an extra month, but the quality of the bud is generally better. There is a direct relationship between the productivity (and usually size) of roots to plant mass. In short, 10 small plants with a large main cola each, will have a higher ratio of productive roots to plant mass, than a single plant that has been topped and grown to produce 10 colas - hence the potential increase in quality. In the preceeding scenario, we would save approx 3 - 4 weeks of veg time using 10 small plants vs 1 large plant.

Having said that - there is a growing trend towards large plants indoors with lower plant counts (likely due to MMJ allowable plant counts, etc). Growing larger plants certainly has advantages too! You can move your op quickly, you have fewer plants to tend to, and growing trees is just plain cool! Many contend that more mature plants have more mature flavors too... I am not sure about this. I think that the makeup of the final dried product is better when the internal branching of the plant is smaller.

Currently, there are only 2 real options for gassing: Use CO2 from a tank, or generate CO2 by burning gas or propane. Search CO2 generators to see options to tanked CO2.
 

Maybetomorrow

Well-Known Member
While it is possible to flower with the veg unit - you will have issues. Plant support is a problem, but more importantly, res access becomes an issue. It's hard to get into the bottom res to check your P's, res level, and then to add nutes and PH, etc... If you want to use just one unit - build the MiniStink Flower Unit. I just built one for my sister and it is the bomb! Drill it with 3 holes per 2' post - use as many sites as you want (just 1 would be cool!)

To produce a pound from one plant, you will need to veg for several weeks (months) (as Matty pointed out). The exact time will depend upon the strain and the environment it is grown in. Generally - to get a pound off one plant, it will need to be 6' minimum and even bigger around. Most people can not grow such monsters indoors due to space constraints. The reason the Stink system has 7" spacing on the plant sites is for efficiency. Using more, smaller, closely spaced plants, we are able to reduce our veg time to a few weeks or less (some go zero veg!). Not only can we produce that pound of bud more quickly than veging out a single plant for an extra month, but the quality of the bud is generally better. There is a direct relationship between the productivity (and usually size) of roots to plant mass. In short, 10 small plants with a large main cola each, will have a higher ratio of productive roots to plant mass, than a single plant that has been topped and grown to produce 10 colas - hence the potential increase in quality. In the preceeding scenario, we would save approx 3 - 4 weeks of veg time using 10 small plants vs 1 large plant.

Having said that - there is a growing trend towards large plants indoors with lower plant counts (likely due to MMJ allowable plant counts, etc). Growing larger plants certainly has advantages too! You can move your op quickly, you have fewer plants to tend to, and growing trees is just plain cool! Many contend that more mature plants have more mature flavors too... I am not sure about this. I think that the makeup of the final dried product is better when the internal branching of the plant is smaller.

Currently, there are only 2 real options for gassing: Use CO2 from a tank, or generate CO2 by burning gas or propane. Search CO2 generators to see options to tanked CO2.

I just wanted to add to this that growing a pound per plant is a long long process. You would need at least 1000w per plant to get to a lbs a plant. With out the light penetration you are not able to get the lower branches. If you use say 3 light one on top and 2 on the sides and put the plant on a turn table to have it move through out the day you could do it. But why go through all that when It will take you say 6 months at least, when I could already have 6 pounds by the time your one plant is up to 1 pound. Also think about the room that is needed for just one plant. I was able to archive 6 ounces from 5 plants that were very nice, and maybe a ounce of mids from bag seed that went hermie and pollinated itself. But you have to really think about what your goal is. Then go about it the most efficient way possible. I veg under a 400w MH for two weeks then put the 10-14 inch plants into the flower unit. I still get 4 ft plants so I'm learning to top earlier and start flowering at 10 inches no matter what.



Just some Food for thought. . .
 

add1ct1on

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Hey all, I am planning on adding CO2 but I have a question. I purchased a portable air conditioner and its keeping my room right at 75 but my question is will my a/c pull CO2 out of my room? I would put a timer on the a/c but it manually needs to be turned on (remote). Any ideas?

Thank You!
 

mattykyp

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I just wanted to add to this that growing a pound per plant is a long long process. You would need at least 1000w per plant to get to a lbs a plant. With out the light penetration you are not able to get the lower branches. If you use say 3 light one on top and 2 on the sides and put the plant on a turn table to have it move through out the day you could do it. But why go through all that when It will take you say 6 months at least, when I could already have 6 pounds by the time your one plant is up to 1 pound. Also think about the room that is needed for just one plant. I was able to archive 6 ounces from 5 plants that were very nice, and maybe a ounce of mids from bag seed that went hermie and pollinated itself. But you have to really think about what your goal is. Then go about it the most efficient way possible. I veg under a 400w MH for two weeks then put the 10-14 inch plants into the flower unit. I still get 4 ft plants so I'm learning to top earlier and start flowering at 10 inches no matter what.



Just some Food for thought. . .
Yeah i'd go with you on this one... i work very similar to your method, i top all my plants when small to ensure a nice uniform growth pattern between my plants.
 

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thanks for all the responses guys...especially lions roor...

I was thinking more of four 4-5ft. plants to equal a pound but smaller plants seem like the way to go...:hump:

thanks again guys...I cant wait till I learn enough to add to the forum.

kiss-ass
 

dagobaker

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I use 5 plants per post and 2 stink systems per 600hps
getting between 10 and 15 per unit or about 25 oz off of a 600every 9 weeks
 

mattykyp

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I use 5 plants per post and 2 stink systems per 600hps
getting between 10 and 15 per unit or about 25 oz off of a 600every 9 weeks
For my setup above i have 2 x Fence posts with 5 in each and over the top is 2 x 600's. I'll let you know what i pull when they are ready but i am hoping for at least a pound!!!
 
Stink or anyone who can speak to this - I'm through page 425 and if it has been brought up since then I apologize, but searching organic and nutes has a million hits. I'm looking through the Sunlight Supply Catalog and reading about the Botanicare nutes. The original bloom and grow say they are organic but not the pro versions. Are the originals no good in an aero system? What is the advantage of the pro, and if indeed the pro is not organic, then why has this thread claimed organic buds for at least the first 425 pages? Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 

sssdad

Active Member
I appreciate the responses but nobody really answered my question about plant height and yield. Also the CO2 question.
what is your question about co2? lights have nothing to do with cost of co2. i got co2 reg assembly with timer and a 50lb filled tank for $180.
 

sssdad

Active Member
Hey all, I am planning on adding CO2 but I have a question. I purchased a portable air conditioner and its keeping my room right at 75 but my question is will my a/c pull CO2 out of my room? I would put a timer on the a/c but it manually needs to be turned on (remote). Any ideas?

Thank You!
a/c units do not "pull" air out of a room. some units will have a fresh air switch or lever just make sure you dont use this. the a/c unit cools and recirculates the air. the back of the unit is for cooling the condensor(that is the condensor fan you feel outside)
 
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