Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

andyman

andyman

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SoccerMomZoey said:
Hi again Stink and everyone. Me Zoey...still lurking this thread! Whew...257 is a lot of pages, but I'm makin' it ok...and damn fine reading! A quick thank you to DP for specifying what size pump...I had forgotten to write that down and was sort of dreading going back through all the pages to find one answer! Also, I wanted to echo something that someone (I'm sooo sorry I have forgotten who) had said about Stink being one of the only people to CLEARLY spell out ALL the details about how to set this up...it really is an amazing system, and takes all the mystery out of it for those of us who have never traveled this green path!
OK....so I've heard it said that there are no stupid questions, only stupid people!!! I hope this doesn't make too many people groan...but I really don't know the answer. You guys use too many acronyms!!! Can someone please tell me what the following acronyms are: NFT and UPS. (which I think I can safely assume is NOT a brown delivery truck driven by a very grouchy guy who throws my package over the back fence??!) Also, I guess I haven't gotten far enough into the thread yet (I keep skipping to the end to post) to see if Stink had tried out that idea of running the CO2 through the frame. I was just curious if it had worked. Although I just finished reading though Dirt's grow journal, and wondering if I should wait to see if I need to put out that expense at all right away. (Kudos again, Dirt! Have you recovered from your "testing the product"? LOL)
Thanks so much everybody for being so supportive of everyone here....so NOT like the, dare I say, "Moral Majority"? (don't give me shit...it was a joke...a bad one...but a joke none the less!
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Ive been wondering the same thing. Thats the only thing I dont fully understand (the co2) There is probley lots on riu in other post, but I dont stray far from this one after the results Ive had using stinkbuds system. It kicks all other systems asses.:bigjoint:
 
Thundercat

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So whats goin on guys, I'm gonna go off topic for a second cus I could use some help, and I know you guys are always around. I know this isn't a soil thread, but I know you have alot of exp with soil Stink, and I thought some of you other guys might have aswell. I started a thread about it, but its not getting much response. So any way heres the situation, the "soil" I bought a couple months ago isn't soil. Its all organic compost! It says on the bag not to use as soil, but I was planning on mixing it with perlite, and vermiculite, and some water crystals. Its only got 1.5% N, 1% phosphate, and 2 %potash, so I didn't think the nutes seemed real high, what do you guys think. Will this be ok, or should I wait till tuesday and get some actual soil, and mix some of this in? My seedlings are all starting to show roots out of the plugs, so thats why I wanted to get them into some dirt asap! thanks for any help guys ! TC
 
DragonPhoenix

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Thundercat said:
So whats goin on guys, I'm gonna go off topic for a second cus I could use some help, and I know you guys are always around. I know this isn't a soil thread, but I know you have alot of exp with soil Stink, and I thought some of you other guys might have aswell. I started a thread about it, but its not getting much response. So any way heres the situation, the "soil" I bought a couple months ago isn't soil. Its all organic compost! It says on the bag not to use as soil, but I was planning on mixing it with perlite, and vermiculite, and some water crystals. Its only got 1.5% N, 1% phosphate, and 2 %potash, so I didn't think the nutes seemed real high, what do you guys think. Will this be ok, or should I wait till tuesday and get some actual soil, and mix some of this in? My seedlings are all starting to show roots out of the plugs, so thats why I wanted to get them into some dirt asap! thanks for any help guys ! TC
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I've have some REALLY good experience with a mix of of this -
50% Sunshine Mix #1
20% Fox Farm Happy Frog or Ocean Forest
30% Perlite

Mix em all together and put your plants in em if you want to grow in dirt. I PROMISE you will not be disappointed. I tried using just Fox Farm Happy Frog and it just sucks by itself. The Sunshine Mix #1 is a mix of sphagnum peat moss, coarse grade perlite, gypsum, dolomitic lime, starter fertilizer, and a wetting agent. This combined with the MORE perlite that you add gives a GREAT mix to grow in. I promise you won't be disappointed should you choose to use it. I found it very hard to under or over water using this mix. You can water probably once every 2w when the plants are starting and when they get close to harvest time they will need water every couple of days. I just got done doing this with some White Widow plants not even 2 months ago.

I hope that helps,
DP
 
BigBud66

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Hello fellow stinkers, i just got back from the hydro store with my new timers and will be building the cloner and vegger this weekend. I already have the stuff to do those and 1 flowering unit as well. Your right stink it is not for the financially challenge. I am giving the biz to the local market. Anyways, i started reading this when you were on page 10 and finally have the oppurtunity to get started. So, my question is what seeds i order and where from maybe a few diferrent ones. So would you guys throw me a few of your favorites, your top 3 i would appreciate it. I did see the show on cnbc and it was informitive. The plants in the guys back yard was huge, said he would get about 2 pounds per plant. Buds as big as my arm...Sweeeet. Just a shout out to Dirthawker and DragonPhoenix. You guys are doing great it looks like and with all this knowledge hopefully i will be able to do the same. Stinkbud you complete me....LOL Thanks for everything and I will take pics and keep you guys informed of how im doing as well.
 
repvip

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andyman said:
Ive been wondering the same thing. Thats the only thing I dont fully understand (the co2) There is probley lots on riu in other post, but I dont stray far from this one after the results Ive had using stinkbuds system. It kicks all other systems asses.:bigjoint:
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As for running CO2=carbon dioxide through the fence post.. it's not a good idea, if that's what you have been waiting for. The roots want Oxygen, not CO2. The leaves want CO2, not oxygen.

Makes sense, right? Running CO2 through the fence post would hinder the roots' ability to uptake oxygen.
A few more notes on CO2:
Yes it is heavier than air. However, this isn't an issue if you have fans! Fans will mix up the air and circulate it throughout your grow room. You don't see the CO2 you exhale settling on the floor, do you? Just keep it mixed up and it won't matter if you inject CO2 above your plants, below your plants etc.

Everyone understands why you can run a higher temperature flower room while using CO2? Plants are cold-blooded---like Stink wrote earlier--their metabolism is completely dependent on the ambient temperature. Increase the temp->increase metabolism->which require more of everything--more light, MORE CO2, more water/nutes. CO2 is your limiting factor in this equation.
 
andyman

andyman

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repvip said:
As for running CO2=carbon dioxide through the fence post.. it's not a good idea, if that's what you have been waiting for. The roots want Oxygen, not CO2. The leaves want CO2, not oxygen.

Makes sense, right? Running CO2 through the fence post would hinder the roots' ability to uptake oxygen.
A few more notes on CO2:
Yes it is heavier than air. However, this isn't an issue if you have fans! Fans will mix up the air and circulate it throughout your grow room. You don't see the CO2 you exhale settling on the floor, do you? Just keep it mixed up and it won't matter if you inject CO2 above your plants, below your plants etc.

Everyone understands why you can run a higher temperature flower room while using CO2? Plants are cold-blooded---like Stink wrote earlier--their metabolism is completely dependent on the ambient temperature. Increase the temp->increase metabolism->which require more of everything--more light, MORE CO2, more water/nutes. CO2 is your limiting factor in this equation.
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Not in the fence post, On the frame that you tie your plant too. To keep them from falling over. I just never see any pics of line or hose or what ever that the co2 comes out of or runs through.:peace:
 
andyman

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hey anyone, Im waiting on my first order of organic nutes to arrive at my door. I allways make a homebrew tea out of fish poo from my fishtank filters and poor it on my dirt crops. Think there is any reason I shouldnt add it to my veg unit till I get the real deal next week. There on order just not here yet. Im goin to be using the botanical stinkbud recipe. Thanks
 
EdsGarden

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My local grow shop has 3" neoprene collars with a round cutout in the center for growing. I removed the cutout and replaced it with a plug of rockwool; this will go into my 3" net pots in the cloner. Going to see if I can germinate in the cloner this way without starting in paper towels, etc.

I'm using 3" netpots in 5" posts. The same idea would work in 2" netpots by cutting out a plug for the rockwell.

Keep you posted .
 

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andyman

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StinkBud said:
What a great idea! The plant supports are right next to the buds.

You could drill small holes right next to each bud site and hook the hose up to a fitting. It would be easy and work unreal!

I'll have to try it out and see how it works. After my next harvest I'll drill the holes in the cross supports and put in a fitting.

Thanks dude!
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any one tried this yet?
 
stofmonster

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Hey andyman I used something like that the first couple days and then switched to Earthjuice I had and had not good results. Everything returned to gr8 as soon as I used botanicare. I would say use it ifyou have to but chenge the rez as soon as ur nutes come in

andyman said:
hey anyone, Im waiting on my first order of organic nutes to arrive at my door. I allways make a homebrew tea out of fish poo from my fishtank filters and poor it on my dirt crops. Think there is any reason I shouldnt add it to my veg unit till I get the real deal next week. There on order just not here yet. Im goin to be using the botanical stinkbud recipe. Thanks
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SoccerMomZoey

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Uh..Mr. Gringo sir...while I do think it's incredibly sexy when a man has that type of grasp on the english language....huh??? Kidding. I understand what you are saying in regards to PPM, but still cloudy as to how it relates to how I put it on the plants. You have to remember when I say newbie...I really mean it. Though I have done an immense amount of research before posting...I mean that's what all this information is here for. But just that one is really escaping me...even with the clarification from "monster." Understand what you are saying...but not how it relates. I appreciate the time to answer though. I'll do a little more research.
 
andyman

andyman

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SoccerMomZoey said:
Uh..Mr. Gringo sir...while I do think it's incredibly sexy when a man has that type of grasp on the english language....huh??? Kidding. I understand what you are saying in regards to PPM, but still cloudy as to how it relates to how I put it on the plants. You have to remember when I say newbie...I really mean it. Though I have done an immense amount of research before posting...I mean that's what all this information is here for. But just that one is really escaping me...even with the clarification from "monster." Understand what you are saying...but not how it relates. I appreciate the time to answer though. I'll do a little more research.
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You add nuitrients to your water till the ppm go up. Like if the culigan water guy was testing your drinking water it should be real low ppm. Mine is like 265 ppm. The more nuits you add the more disolved salt particals are in the water. So if you had real bad water it would be higher. Like disolving salt into warm water it adds more small particles. = ppm goes up. hope that helps Im still new to it.
 
stofmonster

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Sorry Soccermom I was on the way out the door earlier. You will want a tester for PPM when you add nutrients to the resivoir you need to know how much is in there as to not get too much. raising that amount to get the best growth without burning the plant. We are running anywhere from 1500-2900ppm depending on the particular plant after you set ppm then set your PH. We are always here for you so don't overwhelm yourself it is really easy and will come to you quickly. If I can do it anyone can:mrgreen:

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Uh..Mr. Gringo sir...while I do think it's incredibly sexy when a man has that type of grasp on the english language....huh??? Kidding. I understand what you are saying in regards to PPM, but still cloudy as to how it relates to how I put it on the plants. You have to remember when I say newbie...I really mean it. Though I have done an immense amount of research before posting...I mean that's what all this information is here for. But just that one is really escaping me...even with the clarification from "monster." Understand what you are saying...but not how it relates. I appreciate the time to answer though. I'll do a little more research.
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GringoLoco

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SoccerMomZoey said:
Uh..Mr. Gringo sir...while I do think it's incredibly sexy when a man has that type of grasp on the english language....huh??? Kidding. I understand what you are saying in regards to PPM, but still cloudy as to how it relates to how I put it on the plants. You have to remember when I say newbie...I really mean it. Though I have done an immense amount of research before posting...I mean that's what all this information is here for. But just that one is really escaping me...even with the clarification from "monster." Understand what you are saying...but not how it relates. I appreciate the time to answer though. I'll do a little more research.
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Didn't mean to overwhelm you with tech jargon, I'm a bit of a bolt head. PPM is just a measurement of dissolved nutrients or other particles in a body of water. Some strains can handle higher PPMs which mean you can have a higher concentration of nutrients in the water before the plant begins to burn from over feeding. It is a good idea to have a PPM meter to not only test your base water (if using tap water), but also to keep an eye on your PPM in your reservoir(s) as they will fluctuate as the plants intake the nutrients.

Hope this helps =)
 
whysohigh

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finally done reading after a week or so, this thread answered every question i ever had and gave me so many ideas and plans, stink you are the man! ive been growing in 4" pvc for a few grows, i originally was going to use rain gutters for houses, and im cloning with a dome and gel now, but im switching to your system after this harvest. im growing WAPPA right now, anyone ever tried this strain? it looks pretty sweet so far. stink your a genius and a godsend keep it up and thanks for the knowledge bro.
 
SoccerMomZoey

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LOL! Thanks so much for the english, Gringo and Monster!! I totally got it now! I like to read first before I ask a question, because I've seen someone ask a question that was answered, like two posts above, and I just roll my eyes. The way I see it is asking for help is one thing, but asking for someone to hold your hand and do it for you is ridiculous. The acronym thing though....I think probably most people have at least heard them once or twice, so have an idea....I have to laugh at myself!!! Being a "virgin" except for some crap seeds I planted in my mom's garden in high school...I think I will be a good guinea pig for Stink's system, since it will (and I KNOW it will!!) prove function over form, seeeing as how I haven't developed any form yet! I feel like a kid again, and this is gonna be fun! Happy Saturday guys!
 
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havefungodumb said:
yeah that scares me i hope a i get a mist coming out of these i think i had to use a size up drill bit

question:

can i use any size bin for clone and veg system?

i got roughneck containers but i cant seem to find the 18 gal ones, maybe i should try a place like walmart or something

anyways i got bigger ones can i use them?
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