Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

LionsRoor

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I'm trying to keep up with the thread but time has been at a premium as of late and I've been very busy improving my horticultural area etc.

So without making any more excuses, here's a bud shot of some WW I harvested a couple weeks ago - I know how everyone loves cannaporn.
Yeah!!!! - so good - great job - nice, Dragon!!!

 

LionsRoor

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I have a little confusion about attaching the pump to the sprayer unit. I have always used tubing in the past. Do you just silicone the pump to the pvc on your original design?

I may just use the tubes so I can move the pump around ( to avoid root overgrowth)
There are many ways to attach the pump to your manifold. I have found these pieces to work best and it is actually possible to assemble the entire manifold from threaded 1/2" PVC. The EcoPlus 396 and 633 pumps both have 1/2" threaded output. The 396 has 1/2" threaded input too, while the 633 uses 3/4" thread (garden hose) - in case you want to run something externally or fit a filter inline.

Refer to the attached pictures:

The blue flex line tubing has 1/2" male pipe thread on both ends. It is available at hardware stores and comes in many lengths. We have 9" through 24" sections at our OSH in town. The pictures show an 18" and 24" section. The great thing about these pieces is that the fittings swivel within the hose - no kinked or twisted hose when replacing a pump or manifold.

The gray sections of 1/2" threaded PVC are available in 1" through 48" sections; in 1" increments through 12" at our OSH. These pieces are great for the AeroCloner and the VegUnit. Combine these threaded sections with various threaded 1/2" PVC elbos and tee's and endcaps - while the pictures do not show this, you can make an entirely threaded assembly.

The nice little threaded elbo is also available at your hardware store.

I've shown the method I use to connect my EcoPlus633 to the tee of the spray manifold. The connection is: Pump, to 1/2" threaded elbo, to 1/2" threaded flex tubing, to 1/2" threaded/slip/slip PVC tee section.

Also shown is how you may use a section of gray 1/2" threaded PVC for the AeroCloner pump connection.

Pump it up!

PS - sorry about the image quality - cell phone pics - didn't feel like pulling out the camera.
 

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StinkBud

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It's been two weeks since the first flower unit was put in operation.

ps - lol thinking about the earlier days of high rez temps!! This couldn't be working better. Really.
I'm so glad this is working out for you guys.

It's funny, I always show off everyone's StinkBuddy photos to my friends like a proud poppa!:-P

I LOVE the photos. I'm sure it is helping the cause also. People see how well you all are doing and it gives them the confidence to try it themselves.

I'm proud to have you on the StinkBuddy team!
 

StinkBud

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Picture time! We need to make a stinkbuddies national anthem..so we can all sing along:clap:
Your room is looking fucking unreal bro! What can I say that I haven't said a million times before. A+++:-P

Photos like these make people realize how easy and fun it really is.

It makes me feel good to know that long after I'm gone the StinkBud team will still go on.

It will be friends like you that will mentor the next generation in the StinkBud philosophy.

I know that everyone here appreciates the time and effort I put into this thread. But you need to realize that I get back twice as much as I give so I'm the one getting the best deal out of the whole thing!

All the joy you guys get from your system I get twice as much happiness. Now multiply that by how many people there are and you begin to see why my face hurts from smiling so much:-P:-P:-P.

Keep up the great work Brother!!
 

jimo09

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It's been two weeks since the first flower unit was put in operation. Plan on two week intervals with probably 4 units total. Remember, these are the full 6' posts! I can't get far enough back for a better pic. I have two veg chambers and two clone chambers. I haven't really needed the second veg chamber, but it was nice to have two cloners.

These are almost exclusively blue cheese. New mothers were just placed in flower room after cloning today and include blueberry, white berry, white widow.. lots of the whites and blues.

ps - lol thinking about the earlier days of high rez temps!! This couldn't be working better. Really.
Hey Repvip,

What is your light setup? Thx
 

westmich

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just curious.. would the GFCI circuit flip as the pump is now leaking current in the water? Or would it flip when I touch the water and make the ground? (and I still don't really get why it wouldn't ground with the ground from the 3-prong plug..) either way I replaced it with a spare.

thanks
It would trip as soon as it electrified the water. A breaker trips when the amount of amps drawn exceeds a pre-defined limit. A GFCI trips when the amount of juice going out does not match the amount of juice coming back because it went to ground or water or something.

Most rooms are wired on their own circuit or at least have one outlet that is wired into first. Find that outlet and replace with a GFCI outlet ($10) and now the entire room is GFCI.

A quick quote while on topic -
“If GFCIs were installed in every U.S. home, nearly 70 percent of the approximate 400 electrocutions that occurred last year could have been prevented,” notes Brett Brenner, President of Electrical Safety Foundation.

http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news/safe-home-101-–-gfcis-lower-home-electrocution-deaths.aspx?googleid=241914
 

repvip

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Hey Repvip,

What is your light setup? Thx
Just 2 1000w HPS in cooltubes with a 745cfm fan. I am truly jealous of the 4-600w HPS that DirtHawker has!

CFL's for the clones and a 400w MH for the veg units--though I am getting too much veg growth and may switch to HO T5 or something.

It would trip as soon as it electrified the water. A breaker trips when the amount of amps drawn exceeds a pre-defined limit. A GFCI trips when the amount of juice going out does not match the amount of juice coming back because it went to ground or water or something.

Most rooms are wired on their own circuit or at least have one outlet that is wired into first. Find that outlet and replace with a GFCI outlet ($10) and now the entire room is GFCI.

A quick quote while on topic -
“If GFCIs were installed in every U.S. home, nearly 70 percent of the approximate 400 electrocutions that occurred last year could have been prevented,” notes Brett Brenner, President of Electrical Safety Foundation.

http://www.injuryboard.com/national-news/safe-home-101-–-gfcis-lower-home-electrocution-deaths.aspx?googleid=241914
Thanks for the GFCI info! You know.. even the plants themselves were electric! I first noticed a shocking feeling when brushing up to the plants with the pump on--they seem fine though :)

andyman: any idea to build in a GFCI into your power relay? Would that be difficult?
 

latinrascal

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andyman: any idea to build in a GFCI into your power relay? Would that be difficult?
If you look at Andys first setup with the timer in the box along with the contactor and plug outlet. In this senerio just put the GFCI where the regular outlet would be and then just plug in the power strip to that GFCI. So basicly instead of using the power strip to wire directly to the contactor wire the GFCI directly to the contactor and you wil be all set or you can just change the socket that is already in the wall where you plug in your equipment and it will protect everything. Just make sure that its the load side that you have pluged into it and not just the timer.
 

westmich

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If you look at Andys first setup with the timer in the box along with the contactor and plug outlet. In this senerio just put the GFCI where the regular outlet would be and then just plug in the power strip to that GFCI. So basicly instead of using the power strip to wire directly to the contactor wire the GFCI directly to the contactor and you wil be all set or you can just change the socket that is already in the wall where you plug in your equipment and it will protect everything. Just make sure that its the load side that you have pluged into it and not just the timer.
Just be aware of what the amp rating for the GFCI is. Just like a timer, if you exceed the amp rating you will eventually burn it up.
 

westmich

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You could also just buy a GFCI breaker (not sure on cost) and replace the existing breaker. Replace with the same amount of amp and now everything is GFCI which isn't a bad idea. For example, for whatever reason you decide to leave a fan on the floor plugged into a regular outlet. You get a water leak in the middle of the night. The next morning you step into your grow room and before you can flip the light switch on you just became a statisitc.
 

offgridgrower

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hey stink, im on my 6th week of flower, i know im in soil but i cant seem to find the post where you talk about finishing out with nutes and clearex. my last watering i went the highest in the pro bloom than any other watering( 2tsp/per gal of karma, 7tsp/per gal pro-bloom & sweet, 6 gal water total, no cal-mag to reduce the N intake) when should i start the flushing, and should i begin to lower the nute mixture as well? also i wont be able to get the clearex either so I will be using plain water to flush, began looking at the trichomes and mostly all are still clear.
 

robotninja

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Hey stink, or anyone for that matter, just got some clones (Super Silver Haze) and am ready to put em in the system. But they are already rooted in rock wool cubes. What should I do? Try and peel away the rock wool? They are pretty decent sized clones too, 5-6 inches tall already. Should I go right to veg with em?
 

pharlow

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Hey stink, or anyone for that matter, just got some clones (Super Silver Haze) and am ready to put em in the system. But they are already rooted in rock wool cubes. What should I do? Try and peel away the rock wool? They are pretty decent sized clones too, 5-6 inches tall already. Should I go right to veg with em?
i set up the same thing with clones in rockwool i just put them in the netpots
 

pharlow

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hey stinkbud i have a question to ask i purchased clones that were different strains that are growing at much different rates do you have any techniques in which u would recomend to prevent the others from stretching ????
 

DragonPhoenix

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here is a pic of the one I made with a contactor built in so you could run larger higher amp pumps.
not sure if those plans you have there are for pumps like this uses or little fishtank air pumps that draw less power:bigjoint:
Hey andyman -

what is the box with the red wire going to it? It's not in the original picture on p186.

Thanks again,
DP
 

DragonPhoenix

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hey stinkbud i have a question to ask i purchased clones that were different strains that are growing at much different rates do you have any techniques in which u would recomend to prevent the others from stretching ????
The sativas will stretch like a mofo and the indicas will not stretch like a mofo unless you have the light way too high. There's really nothing you can do to prevent the sativas from growing tall so the best bet is to either top them or to tie them back. You could also start the sativas into flowering when they are about 6-8" tall. Typically sativas bloom for about 11-12w. Indicas are usually harvested at about 9w and put into bloom at about 12". There are many reasons for this but one of the main reasons is that the lights can't penetrate past about 36". So basically all the bottom branches are not going to be getting sufficient light to produce dense buds.

So in summary - find out which of your clones are sativas or sativa dominant and start those into flowering at about 6-8" and flower them for ~11w. Add your indicas 2w later and they will bloom for 9w and then you can harvest the entire system at the same time.

DP
 

DragonPhoenix

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Two questions -

First - are you guys constantly trimming the bottom leaves that aren't getting enough light and leaves that have some damage for whatever reason? I find myself doing this constantly - every couple of days and I've only got 6 plants in my bloom system that has 4w left. I actually cannot wait until it's ready and to post pics for you guys.

Secondly - I never had to deal with this until a couple days ago but on that same bloom system that I'm constantly trimming the bottom branches/leaves I've found it uses between 1-3 gallons a day now. Again I only have 6 plants in there so I cannot even imagine what would happen if I had it full.

Thanks guys,
DP
 

DIRTHAWKER

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Two questions -

First - are you guys constantly trimming the bottom leaves that aren't getting enough light and leaves that have some damage for whatever reason? I find myself doing this constantly - every couple of days and I've only got 6 plants in my bloom system that has 4w left. I actually cannot wait until it's ready and to post pics for you guys.

Secondly - I never had to deal with this until a couple days ago but on that same bloom system that I'm constantly trimming the bottom branches/leaves I've found it uses between 1-3 gallons a day now. Again I only have 6 plants in there so I cannot even imagine what would happen if I had it full.

Thanks guys,
DP
I pluck dead leaves every day, but i cant reach the back so i really dont know whats going on back there. Alot fall off on there own and i find new ones on the floor everyday. The longer you veg the bigger they get and the less light reaches the bottom branches..but we all knew that..my problem is they are grown too damm fast!! i dont see myself getting away with starting to flower any plants under 12 inches, but i can live with that:-P

filling my reservoirs has become my daily routine...i keep them topped off, these babies drink alot of water...I could go a couple days between fillings but if im around i just top them off, i drag my hose in and fill each res up ...they drink 4-6 gallons a day towards the end of flowering.
 

VultureZ

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Stinkbud: Amazing post, I have read and studied the whole thing. I have a few comments and questions.

1) You describe in detail how to start from clones, but what about seeds? Start in paper towels then move directly to the cloner to get roots then veg and clone? Or do you recommend growing the seed in soil then cloning?

2) Do you recommend RO/DI water to be used? Or regular tap water?

3) I have been a long time reef keeper and noticed many of the same lessons seem to apply to hydroponics. If anyone is looking for a way to auto. add water to their reservoirs I would recommend http://autotopoff.com/.
 
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