Guerrilla Warfare - Part 2 - Diesel Ryder, Auto Blueberry, Auto Assassin

DesertSativa said:

Plants look great. Keep the updates coming!

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Thanks DS and Koula!

Good to know there's someone out there taking a look.

Really happy with the flowering of the Autoflowering strains.

All four of the Auto Assassins are putting out nice clusters of pistils, as is the one Diesel Ryder female and big Auto Blueberry.

Even the dinky 3-inch Auto Blueberry has nice clusters of pistils at its center and (amazingly enough) on the only other set of branches.

The third Auto Blueberry which finally showed is right between the other two in height.

I'll very likely seed out all 3 of the Auto Blueberry, even the small little 3-inch one.

I'm not going to get more than a few 1/8s (if that) from all 3 of them put together, so I'm gonna do the next best thing with them and breed 'em.

I'll be carefully separating each plants resulting seeds, to better control and understand where these parents originated from when I use these seeds in the future.

I have to say overall, Auto Assassin is easily the most consistent of the three autoflowering strains I tried. Granted, the sample size I used for all three strains was realatively small (4-5 seeds per strain).

I'd WHOLEHEARTEDLY recommend anyone trying ANY auto strain (especially auto strains) to buy at least a 10-pack of seeds, if not more. Auto strains have a history of mutating and giving the grower very random and unstablized results, so the more poles you fish with, the better chance you'll catch a great pheno in the seeds you plant.

Those autos look great. About how tall are they?

mae said:

Those autos look great. About how tall are they?

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The tallest Auto Assassin is about 1 and 1/2 foot tall.

I'd say the rest of them range from 6 inches to just over a foot, which is ideal (for me).

Really like the branching on the Auto Assassin's....super impressed with that strain.

Only started with 4 Auto Assassin seeds, got 4 female, all with great branching yet still compact in size.

if there autos....when are they gona start buddin?

Love the pictures, very well documented. Questions that i have: ok, i just planted my seeds in the soil. I didnt sprout them previously, if the seeds are so weak that they need that kind of help than growing them wont be worth it. I just put them in dirt, (peat) Once they germinate i will add some nitrogen rich fertilizer. But my question is, how long will it take for these babies to become noticably like mariunana? (visually speaking) my roomate may or may not notice for i have a number of plants grwoing everywhere. (tomatoes etc. ) so basicaly how long can i play it safe from today and say they are just tomatoes before i have to ship em out to the grow spot?

jestacrazy said:

if there autos....when are they gona start buddin?

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Not sure if you've actually read this thread at all, but the autos are budding.

I've already separated the males and females.

And it's "they're", as in "they are"....not there.

Yolkamotive said:

Love the pictures, very well documented. Questions that i have: ok, i just planted my seeds in the soil. I didnt sprout them previously, if the seeds are so weak that they need that kind of help than growing them wont be worth it. I just put them in dirt, (peat) Once they germinate i will add some nitrogen rich fertilizer. But my question is, how long will it take for these babies to become noticably like mariunana? (visually speaking) my roomate may or may not notice for i have a number of plants grwoing everywhere. (tomatoes etc. ) so basicaly how long can i play it safe from today and say they are just tomatoes before i have to ship em out to the grow spot?

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Honestly, I'd go easy on any special fertilizer with the auots. Most are very nute sensitive.

I'd recommend transplanting your seedlings into a good all-purpose soil, and add manures/guano, perlite, peat moss, etc if you must.

Go back and look at the first few posts I made on this thread. Look at the seedlings I have, and watch their development as the thread goes on. I have pictures and video so you can clearly see when the seedlings take on the classic 5 or 7 finger fan leaves that look like cannabis.

Thanks, lastly i want to know your specific methods for pollination. I think its really hard to do so i want to know what your plan is.

Yolkamotive said:

Thanks, lastly i want to know your specific methods for pollination. I think its really hard to do so i want to know what your plan is.

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It sounds like you might need to do a bit more research before you continue Yolk. Your first question (about what a seedling will look like and how long you can let it go before it looks like marijuana) and this pollination question lead me to believe that you haven't done nearly enough background research (something most people are just too lazy to do).

Use Google, use the Advanced Search feature here on RIU, and look at how others have successfully bred their males/females. Find out what a young seedling looks like at week 1, at week 2, at week 3, etc. etc.

There's nothing at all hard about pollinating females, so I'm not really sure why you're so befuddled with it?

You'll see how I do it when the time comes.

oh no my friend, i unerstand how my questions may indicate im new at this (which i am) however i have done quite a bit of research. Before i smoked i was an avid grower of a number of plants and still am and this all comes very naturally to me. I just wanted to know youre specific breeding method, i have seen people take the males and cut them down and at a seperate site, gather pollen by cutting off the stamens and then shaking them about in a plastic bag, then they used q-tips on low lying branches to aquire a small amount of seeds. I was thinking of using that method myself, but i wanted to kow your opinion. and also about the 1 week, 2week etc. I just feel uneasy about having 30 or so seedlings in my place of residence at the moment. I want to be sure to move them out before any suspicion in aorused.

Cool grow and very well documented. Im planning on doing an autoflower grow this year as a rainy end to the season caused mould to ruin most of my (first ever) grow last year. I was thinking about auto AK47 but after checking out this thread I'm going to be getting the Auto Assassins.
Keep the updates coming- Good luck
---TIG

Theres no loss. Your growing autos bro

thriller.in.guerrilla said:

Cool grow and very well documented. Im planning on doing an autoflower grow this year as a rainy end to the season caused mould to ruin most of my (first ever) grow last year. I was thinking about auto AK47 but after checking out this thread I'm going to be getting the Auto Assassins.
Keep the updates coming- Good luck
---TIG

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Thank ya sir!

Ya, if I could do it again, I'd definitely pick up more Auto Assassin.

From all the background reading I did on Diesel Ryder, I thought for sure that would be THE auto-strain.

And maybe it will be for potency/taste when everything is dried/cured.

But for overall uniform growth and vitality, I'd have to give it up to Short Stuff and their Auto Assassin.

All four turned out females (which doesn't hurt), and all four have their own unique style of branching. Full branches up and down the main stem, unlike the Diesel Ryder or Auto Blueberry, which each had varied growth among the 5 seedlings each. Some were very stretchy, with hardly any branching. Some were so small and diminutive, they were only 2-3 inches tall (and virtually unusable).

It's to be expected with auto-strains that they can be fairly unstable and varied in their growth, so it's refreshing and confidence-inspiring to grow a strain that maintains stabilized growth characteristics.

I've heard great things about Auto-AK from Lowlife and other companies. That's basically what Auto Assassin is: Lowryder (Ruderalis) X AK-47, but it then is crossed with a a pure Sativa.

I'm not sure if it's then recrossed back with a stabilized Auto-AK. It would make sense if it is, given the fairly uniform growth patterns I noticed.

So yea, go with Auto Assassin if you get a chance. Like $55 for 10 regular seeds:

Attitude Seedbank - http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=1756

...Or $5 for a single seed

Castle Seeds - http://www.castle-marijuana-seeds.com/products/short-stuff-auto-assassin

Dr. Yo said:

Objective #1:

To produce as many pure-strain seeds as possible

Objective #2:

To procure 4-6 ounces of cannabis

STRAINS:

-Diesel Ryder (5 seedlings, unsexed)
-Auto Blueberry (5 seedlings, unsexed)
-Auto Assassin (4 seedlings, unsexed)


Seeds germinated five days ago. 14/14 seeds germinated...very happy with those results.

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Seedlings are still in their peat-pellet starters...will be transplanting in 12 oz. cups later today.

I use (2) 55-watt CFL's (3860 lumens/bulb) to grow the seedlings out before outdoor transplanting:

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Greetings, Nice work...
But growing different strains, does all sits the same tipe of grow, the light, temp so on.....
Lokking for the growth... keep updating with your pics....

Gartner said:

Greetings, Nice work...
But growing different strains, does all sits the same tipe of grow, the light, temp so on.....
Lokking for the growth... keep updating with your pics....

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I don't know if I completely understand your question, but are you asking if all these strains were grown the same?

All 3 of these strains were started at the same time, started in the same seedling container, germinated/started with the same light indoors...and then they were transplanted outdoors.

Thanks for stopping by.

Thanks for the info- i think ill go for 10 regular seeds (or perhaps 5 feminized) from Attitude on 420.
---TIG

Thanks for the update.

My "friends" autos are doing the varied growth thing as well. Interestingly, the ones in 3 gal containers are the smallest, regardless of strain. All the ones in 1 gal containers are taking off like rockets. I don't get it.

Any idea?

koulajitong said:

Thanks for the update.

My "friends" autos are doing the varied growth thing as well. Interestingly, the ones in 3 gal containers are the smallest, regardless of strain. All the ones in 1 gal containers are taking off like rockets. I don't get it.

Any idea?

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Just the roll of the dice really. If given a choice, you always want to have the larger container (as long as you have proper drainage).

Larger container and larger roots (in theory) mean bigger and more healthy plants.

I'd just chalk it up to the randomness of auto strains, and keep on truckin'.

I would contribute it to randomness as well, if it were not two different strains. Anyways. My friend just received a blue cheese baby as well as a mystery month old plant with purple leaves. He is also starting off a Dinafem Diesel freebie.

Hopefully that's enough dice to roll well.