growing for profit

I think the guerrilla grow for me and where I live would be alot more risky. Plus like you said RC7 it would be harder to get rid of it all at once. I think with the indoor perpetual grow the quality would be alot better making it easier (for me) to move, and to meet my target goal like Jefferstone said I would only have to move 7 ounces a week over a years time rather than being stuck with pounds at a time.

Jefferstone said:

Could you move 7 oz per week? Even if I was my friends only supplier I don't think I could do more than 3 per week. I wouldn't want to sell to strangers....too risky.

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that is a lot,im movin 3 or so a wk now,all in ozs with just 2 or 3 people i trust.morepeople more risk

I don't think you should grow for profit, so many issues arise with that the constant greed that comes with money will eventually be your down fall. it's always just gotta be a little bigger or a little better or its just gotta make a little more, if your hard up for cash there are a lot of alternatives risky but easy I.e Tower climber average salary is 65-120$ an hour your gone for a day trip or a couple weeks, it's minor amount of work and the courses in canada are like $200-$500 depending on what company you decide to go with, i only say this because it's literally a job that pays full time and you work maybe a grand total of 4 months out of the year. forrestry either offer to cut down the trees for free and re-sell them to lumber companys on the side make an easy penny seeing as you only have to cut them down. or you can charge the customer and re-sell them to the logging company's, just get creative don't exploit weed for a little bit of money it's not like it does you any good sitting in a box while your in jail or in your bank while your lawyers are sucking 5% per month till you get out.

grow some boomers.

Japanfreak said:

Primum non nocere. That's what it's all about. Selling weed is ever so more ethical than selling a hamburger.

Anybody who doesn't understand that, well hopefully you'll have a spiritual revelation and learn not to hate your fellow man.

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japan what do you do for a living are you a preacher or a bishop or even the poop you hate arnies, soldiers how bout hot dogs apple pie or mom?

Japanfreak said:

Primum non nocere. That's what it's all about. Selling weed is ever so more ethical than selling a hamburger.

Anybody who doesn't understand that, well hopefully you'll have a spiritual revelation and learn not to hate your fellow man.

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Serapis said:

How many more threads am I going to open and find Japanfreak in a flame war with someone? This makes like the 3rd or 4th in the last 24 hours. Getting kind of old and childish...

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pretty much

Japanfreak said:

Primum non nocere. That's what it's all about. Selling weed is ever so more ethical than selling a hamburger.

Anybody who doesn't understand that, well hopefully you'll have a spiritual revelation and learn not to hate your fellow man.

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Serapis said:

How many more threads am I going to open and find Japanfreak in a flame war with someone? This makes like the 3rd or 4th in the last 24 hours. Getting kind of old and childish...

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Serapis said:

I'm not insulting you, I'm merely pointing out that yet again, you are in a confrontation with someone else. The other dude has a right to express his opinion that drug dealing gives others a bad name. In fact, the forum rules make threads discussing drug deals, dealers or dealing, off limits.

Here are the rules you agreed to when you became a member here....

"By clicking the Agree button, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-orientated, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws. It is strictly prohibitted to post any message related to drug-exchange, trafficing or drug-dealing. The owners of Rollitup.org have the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason."

I'm not wanting to see you banned. You may also want to lose the attitude that you can post as you please and those that are offended can ignore it. You are far too defensive and on edge, always looking for an e-fight. You are already accussing me of insulting you, yet I have not tossed any personal insults or name calling your way. You can take this however you want, but your violating posts will be flagged, not because I am looking to get anyone banned. I'm picking on you because I see you in multiple threads starting arguments.

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yea he came on a thread about christmas and thanking our soldiers for making us safe and he trashed that thread. he hates everything get lost and get a job stay in japan or what ever

Get Money, fuck everyone else. Who can you trust these days.

Balzac89 said:

Get Money, fuck everyone else. Who can you trust these days.

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Real talk...i feel the same way. i mean sometimes u gotta do what you gotta do, and its always best solo...

i feelz ya

Don't sell it out yourself. Do wholesale. Way less risk. I mean, everybody had a friend who's a dealer. Just ask them if they want a few lbs and make a simple transaction. Easy as that, and your hands stay relatively clean.

s8045488 said:

Indoor basement full or hydro will make u hella $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and its safer than growing outside!!!!!!!!!!

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100% false. How can you rationalize that having a bunch of plants in your own house is less risky that a plot out in the middle of nowhere?? Not to mention the electricity usage and the heat signature of your house and the fact that you are sitting on top of your grow op 24/7... ugh, you must be an idiot, dude...

mrdrywall said:

i grow indoors all yr. under 1000w hps,s one plant gets done one goes back into flower think its called perpetual but dont know.that works great 4 me always hve money coming in and dont overload myself with weed it goes as fast as its ready. then in spring i do some outside.definately get more wieght outside but my opinion is its riskier and the quality isnt there and its one harvest in oct or nov.depends on the growers needs really

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Really? Another one? Use your darn head!

Hypothetically speaking of course. I spent around $3000 on my grow and made that + another $1000 on my first harvest. If I were to sell mine, I would sell to friends (mostly from work who have no idea where I grow) I would then use IP scrambling software (I'm a computer software tech by trade), I would then only utilize an encrypted web based email address that is not connected to any person or place utilizing IP scrambling software. Emails would be password protected and would be deleted after 3 failed unlocking attempts. I would then send out information to said "friends" utilizing this encrypted email address as my only means of comunication (no cell phones). We live in a very technological world, if you are smart you will utilize this technology to your advantage. I could count on an extra $30k a year from a flower closet and veg tent with a very clear concience using this method of distribution, all hypothetical of course.........

Mudslide9791 said:

Hypothetically speaking of course. I spent around $3000 on my grow and made that + another $1000 on my first harvest. If I were to sell mine, I would sell to friends (mostly from work who have no idea where I grow) I would then use IP scrambling software (I'm a computer software tech by trade), I would then only utilize an encrypted web based email address that is not connected to any person or place utilizing IP scrambling software. Emails would be password protected and would be deleted after 3 failed unlocking attempts. I would then send out information to said "friends" utilizing this encrypted email address as my only means of comunication (no cell phones). We live in a very technological world, if you are smart you will utilize this technology to your advantage. I could count on an extra $30k a year from a flower closet and veg tent with a very clear concience using this method of distribution, all hypothetical of course.........

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For someone who claims to know a lot about technology you sure are very dumb with technological anonymity. Emails always leave traces. Always. They can always be recovered whether it be from your hard drive, the recipients hard drive, your email provider, or even your ISP. Cell phones are 100000000x easier and so much more impossible to trace. It's known as a burn phone or a prepaid cell phone which requires 0 personal information to use. You go to walmart, pay cash, walk out of the store and you're done. The only way you're getting caught with one of these is if you're stupid and pay credit card or if you're the most unlucky person on the planet and call a phone that's already being monitored for suspicious activity and then sustain a multiple-minute phone call with this person while the police triangulate your location. You're more likely to be eaten alive by a shark in the middle of a corn field in Iowa.

Also there is no "IP scrambling software" it's called a VPN or proxy, and you can't password protect an email. You can attach a password protected file to the email but that's just dumb and a waste of time.

no hypothetically about it, this is my grow. 100% legal.
I have 2-400HPS and a T5 for veg and clones.

I have a perpetual grow of 7 in flower and 4 in veg and one mother=12 allowed by Michigan law
than I have 4 in flower and 7 clones in veg and 1 mother.

i get more than my 2.5 oz alotted to me and expect around 1 pound for 7 plants depending on the strain, jilly bean right now and its right on.

3 week veg and 10 week flower and I get 4 harvest a year 2 with 7 plants in flower and 2 with 4 plants in harvest and can get 2.5-3 pounds a year.

but that depends on 100% perfect conditions and no problems with bugs or mold.

ExDex1x1 said:

For someone who claims to know a lot about technology you sure are very dumb with technological anonymity. Emails always leave traces. Always. They can always be recovered whether it be from your hard drive, the recipients hard drive, your email provider, or even your ISP. Cell phones are 100000000x easier and so much more impossible to trace. It's known as a burn phone or a prepaid cell phone which requires 0 personal information to use. You go to walmart, pay cash, walk out of the store and you're done. The only way you're getting caught with one of these is if you're stupid and pay credit card or if you're the most unlucky person on the planet and call a phone that's already being monitored for suspicious activity and then sustain a multiple-minute phone call with this person while the police triangulate your location. You're more likely to be eaten alive by a shark in the middle of a corn field in Iowa.

Also there is no "IP scrambling software" it's called a VPN or proxy, and you can't password protect an email. You can attach a password protected file to the email but that's just dumb and a waste of time.

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They can still learn your phone number by tapping someone else's phone, like a client, and triangulate the location from the cell towers. It is as easy as Pinging the phone once they know you called someone else.

Just saying... Not fool proof, not by a long shot. Keep phone calls short, and always destroy the phone after using it for something less than desirable. If you're that paranoid... Then do it right.

Snow Crash said:

They can still learn your phone number by tapping someone else's phone, like a client, and triangulate the location from the cell towers. It is as easy as Pinging the phone once they know you called someone else.

Just saying... Not fool proof, not by a long shot. Keep phone calls short, and always destroy the phone after using it for something less than desirable. If you're that paranoid... Then do it right.

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Also it is fool proof if you go to the OCD extent of using a burn phone. If you want to be 100% untraceable it's possible.

1. Talk to buyer and setup a call time. You call them ONLY at this time of day when you want to contact them to make a sale. All other times of day the phone is off with the battery removed and sim card taken out (not all prepaid phones have removable sim cards but if you can take yours out) This will prevent the phone from being remotely contacted and tracked when not in use.
2. Keep all conversations under 30 seconds, never use names addresses or times. The locations you use should be predetermined and confirmed with the buyer in person not through any electronic means.
3. Replace the phone every month. Stagger your phone replacement with your associate's so you have your new number at the first week of every month, and your buyer has a new one at the 3rd week of every month, this way you both know what phone number to contact with your new phone, other wise you'd have to meet up to exchange new numbers every time and thats just a bitch, you could also purchase 2 phones, give one to your associate, keep one to yourself and that way you know both numbers without having to stagger purchases.
4. Old phones sim cards should be destroyed with a powerful magnet of some kind and then burned or chopped into the smallest pieces you can manage. The phones themselves you can just destroy with a good ol' hammer and send off to the land fill.

Bonus points if you want to fuck with who ever is trying to track you: Leave the simcards in each of your burn phones, leave the battery in and ship it to a random address in a random state with no return address. Extra paranoia points if you pay a kid $5 to walk it into the post office for you.


For those of us in the real world though, you're selling pot. You aren't fucking Al Capone, the FBI isn't tapping your phone they're gonna bust your dumb ass making a deal in broad daylight to a stranger who claims to be a friend of a friend who's really another dealer who got busted and wants to cut a deal.

My last 'room' was 8x 1000 W lights (dual band HPS). Gro-Star vert. reflectors, 4-4x8 hydro flood/drain tables. I cycled 180 plants every 2 months roughly.

Pulled 16+ lb of just AAA tops, plus a fair chunk of real nice "seconds" consistently. Of course this was all a legal grow....cough.

Devildog93 said:

My last 'room' was 8x 1000 W lights (dual band HPS). Gro-Star vert. reflectors, 4-4x8 hydro flood/drain tables. I cycled 180 plants every 2 months roughly.

Pulled 16+ lb of just AAA tops, plus a fair chunk of real nice "seconds" consistently. Of course this was all a legal grow....cough.

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sounds real good...i like that

RC7 said:

hypothetically speaking what do you think is the best way to go about growing for profit ? an indoor perpetual grow large/small? big outdoor guerrilla grow? of course this would be a solo operation that no one would know about. opinions?

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IMO...saying "hypothetically" in front of what you just said doesn't fool anyone. And IMO discussing such things can bring unwanted attention to this website.

tharoomman said:

IMO...saying "hypothetically" in front of what you just said doesn't fool anyone. And IMO discussing such things can bring unwanted attention to this website.

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thanks for the tip.