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GroErr

GroErr

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ttystikk said:
Ya know, a trellis works wonders for stabilizing floppy colas... yet another reason for you to consider a vertical setup.

Cheers, mate! :bigjoint:
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lol yeah for sure, I normally use those bamboo trellises for larger 5/7gal plants and they work great, didn't expect it to get those tall/floppy colas in a 3gal! Definitely stretched more under the CMH, first one from seed in 2gal under the COBs was more manageable.

I've certainly considered vertical after seeing some of your monsters but it just doesn't fit into my current style which is winging it, variety, pheno hunts, seed runs and the like. Fits better with my ADHD too ;) It's a great method for yield but requires committing some space to larger plants for a longer period. If I had more space or my driver was yield I'd definitely try it but I grow way more than I need for meds as-is ;)
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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GroErr said:
lol yeah for sure, I normally use those bamboo trellises for larger 5/7gal plants and they work great, didn't expect it to get those tall/floppy colas in a 3gal! Definitely stretched more under the CMH, first one from seed in 2gal under the COBs was more manageable.

I've certainly considered vertical after seeing some of your monsters but it just doesn't fit into my current style which is winging it, variety, pheno hunts, seed runs and the like. Fits better with my ADHD too ;) It's a great method for yield but requires committing some space to larger plants for a longer period. If I had more space or my driver was yield I'd definitely try it but I grow way more than I need for meds as-is ;)
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Mine is far from the only way to grow vertically; I'm developing my system for commercial users so I'm not surprised that you don't feel it fits your footprint.

Having seen plenty of evidence, I'm aware that vertical growing can be adapted to many situations. In your case, you could get more room for pheno hunts by vertically attacking pots. To reduce veg times, simply flower sooner with shorter plants on shorter panels.

I'm not suggesting you fix what isn't broken. Just planting a seed... :mrgreen:
 
GroErr

GroErr

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ttystikk said:
Mine is far from the only way to grow vertically; I'm developing my system for commercial users so I'm not surprised that you don't feel it fits your footprint.

Having seen plenty of evidence, I'm aware that vertical growing can be adapted to many situations. In your case, you could get more room for pheno hunts by vertically attacking pots. To reduce veg times, simply flower sooner with shorter plants on shorter panels.

I'm not suggesting you fix what isn't broken. Just planting a seed... :mrgreen:
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Yeah I hear you but that would also include more work. I'm in this for the meds and a hobby to get away from it all when I want to. Making more work of it is not what I'm interested in right now with a full time business. Maybe when I retire or semi-retire (I'll never fully retire, that's a death sentence imo). About the only thing I may expand is veg area so I can do less/larger plants consistently, right now I can do one round of larger plants then a round with smaller plants, it's not bad but sometimes it's too much work for the limited time I have. Turning it into work would negate my hobby focus, that's why I eventually got out of doing outdoor guerilla grows a few years back, too much like work and no fun.

I considered and even designed a rack system on rollers which would be cool to try but then thought better since it would be probably double the time I get to spend gardening. Yeah automating some things would make it easier but then that would reduce my hands on time which is one of the things I like about my current setup.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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GroErr said:
Yeah I hear you but that would also include more work. I'm in this for the meds and a hobby to get away from it all when I want to. Making more work of it is not what I'm interested in right now with a full time business. Maybe when I retire or semi-retire (I'll never fully retire, that's a death sentence imo). About the only thing I may expand is veg area so I can do less/larger plants consistently, right now I can do one round of larger plants then a round with smaller plants, it's not bad but sometimes it's too much work for the limited time I have. Turning it into work would negate my hobby focus, that's why I eventually got out of doing outdoor guerilla grows a few years back, too much like work and no fun.

I considered and even designed a rack system on rollers which would be cool to try but then thought better since it would be probably double the time I get to spend gardening. Yeah automating some things would make it easier but then that would reduce my hands on time which is one of the things I like about my current setup.
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Vive la difference!
 
thewanderingjack

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GroErr said:
Yeah I hear you but that would also include more work.
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HERE HERE! People often try to argue with me about the many changes or "improvements" I could make... but I always balance work vs return... As long as I have enough quality buds to smoke, I'm golden... each little change I make increases that output and minimizes my input (in terms of work)... so it works out very well for me (cost effectively as well... I cannot buy cheaper pot than I can grow anywhere near me).

BUT I STILL LOVE VERTICAL WHOOO!!!

Because it works (and could work) for a lot of people, because it makes sense (most horizontal set ups have a lot of wasted space - vertically)... and because it's misunderstood... I root for the underdog. :).

It just doesn't work from me (for the same reasons as you)... unless we count stacking two horizontal grows? It did double my grow horizontal grow space... top's veg and bottom's flower...
 
GroErr

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Javadog said:
It is good to get to listen in when you hash it out.

I try things for fun and to learn. Tried RDWC last year.

It rocked, but I needed more stations, to try more breeds.

Nice looking for 5+ weeks Gro.

JD
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Cheers JD, I like trying stuff but careful to keep it simple so I can keep it fun and not work. As long as I get my meds and maximize what I get out of them with what I have it's all good, no shortage of meds over here :)

I'll definitely be running that Plemon again, good production, strong smells coming on, and a beautiful structure with no training. Looking forward to a taster from that one :)
 
GroErr

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Plemon and Blue Ripper are stinking up the room now at Day 43/6 weeks. Looking like 3 weeks max, somewhere between 8-9 weeks should do it. Drip system kept them going while I was away most of this week, with one quick stop in the middle of the week to water them...

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Wish I'd had a better camera but captured this Friday afternoon looking out the back deck at a buds place. Just after a good thunderstorm went through, beautiful views up there...

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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GroErr

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Grabbed some bud shots while doing some maintenance at Day 44. Having a hell of a time getting a clear pic of the DOG. All are getting frosty and generating some dank smells. Blue Ripper and Plemon are winning in the smell department. Fireballs has surprised me how much it swelled in weeks 4 to 6, goo solid buds all the way down. DOG has the smallest buds but nice and hard already, looks like a late bloomer in all aspects but a nice smell coming through close up.

Fireballs:

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Plemon:

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DOG:

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Blue Ripper:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
Pig4buzz

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GroErr said:
Plemon and Blue Ripper are stinking up the room now at Day 43/6 weeks. Looking like 3 weeks max, somewhere between 8-9 weeks should do it. Drip system kept them going while I was away most of this week with one quick stop in the middle of the week to water them...

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Wish I'd had a better camera but captured this Friday afternoon looking out the back deck at a buds place. Just after a good thunderstorm went through, beautiful views up there...

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Cheers :bigjoint:
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. 3 gal containers is your preference?
 
GroErr

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Pig4buzz said:
. 3 gal containers is your preference?
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Not preference, I just flower them in whatever container size makes sense at the time of flowering. Really depends on how long I had to veg and lately I've been running a lot of strains/phenos which just worked out better in smaller containers. None of these were large enough in veg to warrant 5gal containers. They just all filled the 3gal's with roots and pushed them a bit. With the fabric pots you can get a solid root ball and not get root-bound so I don't worry about up-potting unless they're really large coming into flowering. Next round is 3x or 4x 5gal as they've been holding for a while and gotten too big to flower in the 3gal's.
 
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Camshot overview of the indoor garden. I've been in a bit of a holding pattern so I could skip a round and not have too much going through the summer. Still have some summer and outings but starting to plan for a couple of rounds out. Popped some Blue Ripper BX1 and Blue Ripper x Blue Dream seeds in a cup yesterday, want to get a look at some of the DIY seeds in a few weeks, see how they turned out. Lots of clones and seedlings going and will start picking the candidates for 2 rounds out shortly.

Top-Left: Clone/seedling cabinet is pretty well full, besides what's on the shelf in the pic, there are another 8x clones on the floor out of sight. Been mainly cloning from the party cups for the last couple of months to keep them going. have about 18 strains/phenos plus 3x males on the go in there. Cloner has a couple of males and some clones from the veg tent going also.

Top-Right: Veg Tent has 4x 3gal in there. They'll go into 5gal's this week and wait about 2 weeks or so for the flower room to become available. Keeping them in 5gal's will allow me to finish flowering the 2x males in the breeding tent. There are 2x Blue Pyramid (fems) from seed, looking to find a good pheno and both are looking and smelling awesome, the first one is looking identical to one I had going in the past. There's 1x Blue Ripper 2 clone which is kind of my control pheno to judge how the others perform. And 1x Harlequin x Blue Ripper from seed that looks female but is one of those difficult to sex phenos, no significant signs of either sex but I did find a couple of small hairs in there so crossing my fingers on this one. This would be the first F1 female and has some nice stem rub smells going on.

Bottom-Left: Flower Room at Day 44 with just the 4x 3gal plants going in there. Doing well, nothing to report other than lots of frost and buds coming up in ~2 weeks :)

Bottom-Right: 2x2 breeding tent. There are 2x males in there. The first F1 male (left) which was a tri-leaf pheno of Harlequin x Blue Ripper, and 1x Blue Ripper male for some fresh pollen. I had originally thrown them in to sex the tri-leaf pheno and thought I'd have to pull them but by holding theveg plants in 3gal pots I was able to let these finish flowering under the COBs. One will be done within a week at most and the Blue Ripper will take ~10 days. These will give me enough pollen to chuck for the next 6 months or so :)

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
GroErr

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A look at those 2x males, Harlequin x Blue Ripper left in 2gal, Blue Ripper right in 1gal. The HxBR male was the first tri-leaf pheno I popped from these F1's, then I dropped another 6x seeds and popped another tri-leaf mutant pheno, that one is in a party cup on the floor of the veg cabinet. Will have fresh pollen to hit it with from this male if that one is a fem, fingers crossed.

Both in the 2x2x4' tent, they're 2" from the lights :shock:

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Close-up of a flower from the Harlequin x Blue Ripper male. It's ready to drop, will let it dry out from the watering I just gave it and harvest :D

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
skunkwreck

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GroErr said:
A look at those 2x males, Harlequin x Blue Ripper left in 2gal, Blue Ripper right in 1gal. The HxBR male was the first tri-leaf pheno I popped from these F1's, then I dropped another 6x seeds and popped another tri-leaf mutant pheno, that one is in a party cup on the floor of the veg cabinet. Will have fresh pollen to hit it with from this male if that one is a fem, fingers crossed.

Both in the 2x2x4' tent, they're 2" from the lights :shock:

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Close-up of a flower from the Harlequin x Blue Ripper male. It's ready to drop, will let it dry out from the watering I just gave it and harvest :D

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Cheers :bigjoint:
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I think you may be onto something crossing the tri leaf mutants....something exotic may come from it bro :bigjoint:
 
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