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GroErr

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Straw Man said:
Any of you guys take the THC % reporting with a grain of salt? Sometimes it seems to be misleading and purely an advertisers claim to quality. I dont dispute the methodology of detecting the thc percentages. It seems though, that sometimes high THC strains lack the subtle factors that make a great smoke. Not exactly the same as everclear vs Buleit but along similar lines.

I'd almost always prefer a 12-14 week 15% strain than a 25% 8 weeker.
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I certainly do, it's a complex plant and THC alone doesn't necessarily give the best quality bud or stone, although not a bad place to start. I don't think we really understand yet what combination does, that's where I'd like to have testing to not only measure different levels but see if there are specific patterns that produce all-around quality smoke or edibles. With the huge variation in commercial strains, testing a single pheno with high THC means nothing if you can't reproduce/pull that pheno. Just like breeder times, it's just a guideline and can have huge swings between phenos.
 
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I cant leave any thanks yet. But thanks!

Ive been smoking since about 1973 so my tolerance is well tested. Still i feel that those knock you down THC levels are not what i enjoy most or provide the experience that is most therapeutic.

Ive got an 8ball kush, a higher cbd strain, going right now. It's just at week 2 12/12 but Im super curious about how it smokes up!
 
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Straw Man said:
@GroErr, any thoughts on those purple petioles on your girls in post #1571?
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Sorry missed this question. Actually what you're seeing there is reflection from a blurple LED behind me - lol. Although the pheno bottom-middle comes, actually all my Blue Ripper phenos have purple stems and stalks, stalks are typically striped with purple lines. My take it's mainly genetics, I recently downloaded and read a bunch of articles pertaining to purple petioles and their causes and nothing came up with concrete reasons for them. I don't worry about it as many strains show that trait and if they're perfectly healthy otherwise I just attribute it to genetics. Most of my best phenos across different strains have them and I've noticed them on pretty well any strain with blueberry in the lineage.
 
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GroErr said:
Sorry missed this question. Actually what you're seeing there is reflection from a blurple LED behind me - lol. Although the pheno bottom-middle comes, actually all my Blue Ripper phenos have purple stems and stalks, stalks are typically striped with purple lines. My take it's mainly genetics, I recently downloaded and read a bunch of articles pertaining to purple petioles and their causes and nothing came up with concrete reasons for them. I don't worry about it as many strains show that trait and if they're perfectly healthy otherwise I just attribute it to genetics. Most of my best phenos across different strains have them and I've noticed them on pretty well any strain with blueberry in the lineage.
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Purple petiole is a much debated topic. My plants under blurples seemed to aways have them. When i switched to cobs they persisted. On my last grow I switched up on balancing my soil and used a different fert. This grow exhibited bright green petioles but I haven't tested the smoke yet. This particular plant was robust as heck! Chopped today, day 62. Placed on a cd for scale.6-6-16.jpg


Im leaning towards interpreting the purple petiole as a deficiency symptom but whether it has much impact on quality of outcomes, im not so sure. recently I observed purple creeping into a Kali Mist fem from bean that was vegging outdoors. I hit it with the same ferts and the purple receeded.

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GroErr

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Straw Man said:
Purple petiole is a much debated topic. My plants under blurples seemed to aways have them. When i switched to cobs they persisted. On my last grow I switched up on balancing my soil and used a different fert. This grow exhibited bright green petioles but I haven't tested the smoke yet. This particular plant was robust as heck! Chopped today, day 62. Placed on a cd for scale.View attachment 3701069
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Now that looks like fire, some nice colours in there, should be interesting to see if there's any noticeable difference in this one vs. the purple petioles.
 
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Evil-Mobo said:
Looking Good bro.........
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Cheers Evil, had a look at that LEC in the 2x4 tent top-right. It'll be tight height wise but going to try it. Need to grab or make some smaller/shorter S hooks to minimize the overhead from the LEC hood. Grabbed a spare 315w/4200k bulb from my son on the weekend to give it a go.
 
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GroErr said:
Cheers Evil, had a look at that LEC in the 2x4 tent top-right. It'll be tight height wise but going to try it. Need to grab or make some smaller/shorter S hooks to minimize the overhead from the LEC hood. Grabbed a spare 315w/4200k bulb from my son on the weekend to give it a go.
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Sweet I want to see how this works for you. I am loving the flower one in my 3x3 and so is my Northern Lights lady friend.....
 
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Busy week but the plants got through it well. Day 48 & Day 20 in the flower room. Room is dialed in and humming, lots of buds popping and fattening up. COB colas are getting thick and heavy but looking like they'll go 60 days easy, lots of time to put on more weight.

The newer batch of 5x 3gal under the CMH has stretched into a fairly even 42x42" and 32" from the soil. All of them are looking healthy. New bulb in the LEC. Should be a nice haul :D

Group shots:

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Blue Ripper 2 F1:

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Fireballs Day 48:

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Blue Ripper BR2-3 F2 keeper pheno Day 20:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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Heading out until Sunday, gave them all a good watering and grabbed some bud pics. Fireballs is pretty well done so will pull that one Sunday. Blue Ripper 2 can go a few more days to finish up, just tightening up now, colas are nice and heavy/fat, they seemed to have liked the first run under the Tasty LED's :)

IR shot of the Blue Ripper colas:

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Blue Ripper 2 Day 55:

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Fireballs Day 55:

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Blue Ripper BR2-3 pheno, Day 27 stacking up:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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Very cool, popped 6x more of the Harlequin x Blue Ripper F1's and got another tri-leaf pheno. Could have an interesting cross here. Popped the first 2x testers and got a tri-leaf pheno, now this one. 2 of 8 so far. Would be nice to get one fem and one male of these :)

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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Pulled the 5gal Fireballs last night. A lot more bud than I thought on it once I pulled it out. Small buds but tight so there'll be a couple of zips in there. Not a bad pheno but not a keeper, have another 2 coming up and 1 is smelling dank.

For perspective the door behind it is 36" wide and the door knob is 37" from the floor:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
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