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GroErr
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Hey Mo, the P4 (fluffier buds) is some spice and earth/dirt, much the same taste, stronger pheno. The P6 is lemon first, then earthy/dirt under that. Both very nice stones but that P4 is very psychedelic/trippy.
GroErr
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Hey Psuagro, thanks and thanks for popping in. Actually the Blue Pyramid is about the only one I haven't hit with pollen yet. Been working the Blue Rippper's (Blueberry x JTR) with new crosses. New Blue Pyramid pheno though, lost the first one and ran some more, picked up a better pheno with almost double the production
Haven't run any of the other Pyramid gear yet, never seems to be enough room available for fem seeds, too many other crosses to get through!
GroErr
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So I'm still seeing the on-going heated discussions/arguments between low end LED's (let's call the lowest end blurples) and the higher end like COBs, or newer QB boards using the Samsung 561's.
Does anyone see any value in a side-by-side-by-side run? Have you seen one already like this?
I'm thinking 2x 3 or 5gal clones, all same strain/pheno under each tech, each covering ~1.5' x 3', a little space between them so that overlap isn't a significant factor. Blurples, against some Chinese Alibaba COBs, against some Citizen or Cree COBs. I'd buy a 200w (actual output) MARS 5w blurple as the one's I have are 3w and too old for a fair comparison. Run them all together and let the weights tell the story. 200w of Blurples, 200w of Alibaba COBs, 200w of Cree 3590 or Citizen 1212's.
If there's enough interest I can make that happen, probably an early fall run, dedicated thread in the LED section. Thoughts?
Does anyone see any value in a side-by-side-by-side run? Have you seen one already like this?
I'm thinking 2x 3 or 5gal clones, all same strain/pheno under each tech, each covering ~1.5' x 3', a little space between them so that overlap isn't a significant factor. Blurples, against some Chinese Alibaba COBs, against some Citizen or Cree COBs. I'd buy a 200w (actual output) MARS 5w blurple as the one's I have are 3w and too old for a fair comparison. Run them all together and let the weights tell the story. 200w of Blurples, 200w of Alibaba COBs, 200w of Cree 3590 or Citizen 1212's.
If there's enough interest I can make that happen, probably an early fall run, dedicated thread in the LED section. Thoughts?
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Kcbscrogger
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That sounds interesting, I would follow. Cool
verticalgrow
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VOTE: QB v COB side by side
GroErr
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Yeah, maybe later, not ready to switch to QB's until I see some more results from more growers and get some more use out of my existing COBs. Plus I think I already saw a thread going on that comparison.THE GREAT GROW OFF CHALLENGE 2017
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The idea was to compare the lower end to the more common tech out there now which are the COBs. QB's are looking good but not widespread enough, yet...
TurboTokes
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I think everyone that is past the noob stage knows blurple is a waste of any effort.
An actual run of the same pheno side by side with COB led vs Hid HPS is something that would get alot of people watching, specifically a more advanced set of growers watching aswell
An actual run of the same pheno side by side with COB led vs Hid HPS is something that would get alot of people watching, specifically a more advanced set of growers watching aswell
ttystikk
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I could swear I saw someone start a thread on exactly this head to head recently on the LED and other lighting forum topic?THE GREAT GROW OFF CHALLENGE 2017
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GroErr
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Yeah I haven't seen any recently but it's been done here. The noob's are typically the one's arguing about the LED's, maybe with some pics and numbers it would sway them away from the blurple marketing machine. Maybe CMH vs. COBs through the winter, I have a couple of Sun Systems
Yeah, pretty sure I'm subscribed. I think @Evil-Mobo is running a 3x3 with COBs and 3x3 with QB's?
Evil-Mobo
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Yes sir I am link in my sig. Little delay on the photoperiod clones at the moment but I'm going to do a run of autos while I wait for things to veg. Just waiting on my skywalkers to pop but it's looking like on half of them will right now.......Yeah I haven't seen any recently but it's been done here. The noob's are typically the one's arguing about the LED's, maybe with some pics and numbers it would sway them away from the blurple marketing machine. Maybe CMH vs. COBs through the winter, I have a couple of Sun Systems
Yeah, pretty sure I'm subscribed. I think @Evil-Mobo is running a 3x3 with COBs and 3x3 with QB's?
GroErr
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Yeah thought you had that separate thread going. Crank those veg lights
I'll plan for a side-by-side 3x3' w/315w CMH vs. 3x3' w/300w 3590 COBs a few rounds out, when it gets a little cooler
Evil-Mobo
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Good stuff if I get my old 5x9 back then I will be running QB vs COB vs 600w Blue MH vs 1Kw Super HPS LMAO It's going to be a circus eventYeah thought you had that separate thread going. Crank those veg lights
I'll plan for a side-by-side 3x3' w/315w CMH vs. 3x3' w/300w 3590 COBs a few rounds out, when it gets a little cooler
I transferred the one BH that was strong to the #1 of Tupur as well as my Purple Envy, and the (2) Doggie Dreams. Also moved the male over to the COB's and put my first (3) Skywalkers under the QB in their #3's of tupur. And for a test on vigor on the male I took one cut and stuck it in clonex then a root riot and then a little tiny nursery pot of Tupur. Want to see if I can get it to root like this with light feedings.......just a test.........
Looking good in there G!
verticalgrow
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Good Luck Gro,Yeah thought you had that separate thread going. Crank those veg lights
I'll plan for a side-by-side 3x3' w/315w CMH vs. 3x3' w/300w 3590 COBs a few rounds out, when it gets a little cooler
& i hope you smash a pound a light
GroErr
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Cheers, I never run same strains but if I run 4x 5gal clones under each of my Blue Harley and get it right that could be a nice haulGood Luck Gro,
& i hope you smash a pound a light
GroErr
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Sounds like you're taking over the basement, that would be a good one to see, hps against the latest LED tech, go for itGood stuff if I get my old 5x9 back then I will be running QB vs COB vs 600w Blue MH vs 1Kw Super HPS LMAO It's going to be a circus event
I transferred the one BH that was strong to the #1 of Tupur as well as my Purple Envy, and the (2) Doggie Dreams. Also moved the male over to the COB's and put my first (3) Skywalkers under the QB in their #3's of tupur. And for a test on vigor on the male I took one cut and stuck it in clonex then a root riot and then a little tiny nursery pot of Tupur. Want to see if I can get it to root like this with light feedings.......just a test.........
Looking good in there G!
GroErr
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It'll be interesting to see the differences between them, I'd say it would be close weights between the CMH & COBs. Lol, will dust off the lab coat for that one for sure, has to be as few variables as possible, may even throw up a partition so there's no overlap if I have the room.
