GroErr Grows...

GroErr

Well-Known Member
I mean if you expand the post I replied to and view the attachment. It was a bunch of seedlings during a pheno hunt.

Some of the leaves were twisted or had a ripple or wave in the margin of the leaf. I see that frequently in mine and wonder if that's normal or a sign of some issue.
Duh, stoner moment. That's pretty common, not sure what causes it other than maybe genetics on some but I don't worry about them at that stage other than keeping them healthy and green. They typically grow out of it later and look normal once they start throwing out some more nodes.
 

Mohican

Well-Known Member
I have heard that the early misshapen leaves are caused growing very fast in a high nutrient soil. They eventually grow out of it.

The Panama looks amazing and I can't wait to see what you do with the Columbian Gold. If it is anything like the Malawi Gold, don't be concerned when the leaves look pale. It is gold! I have found that upping the mag with epsom or AN Micro will green them up plenty. Also the sativa strains seem to really improve with a nice kick of PK at the switch to flower and again mid-flower.

I love the "watching the clouds" reference. Play some music and see where your mind goes - especially with some old school headphones and your favorite '70s band.

I can't wait to have a lab like yours.

Cheers,
Mo
 

GroErr

Well-Known Member
I have heard that the early misshapen leaves are caused growing very fast in a high nutrient soil. They eventually grow out of it.

The Panama looks amazing and I can't wait to see what you do with the Columbian Gold. If it is anything like the Malawi Gold, don't be concerned when the leaves look pale. It is gold! I have found that upping the mag with epsom or AN Micro will green them up plenty. Also the sativa strains seem to really improve with a nice kick of PK at the switch to flower and again mid-flower.

I love the "watching the clouds" reference. Play some music and see where your mind goes - especially with some old school headphones and your favorite '70s band.

I can't wait to have a lab like yours.

Cheers,
Mo
Hey Mo, thanks for popping in, and the tips! Thought you might have some tips on growing out sativas, you're like the sat-man of RIU :)

Been a long time since I smoked some pure sativa, everything seems to be hybrids now, forgot how much I like them :eyesmoke:

It's nice right now because I don't need anything for meds or smoke so I'm taking some time to grow out and pheno hunt some new stuff, including some classics. Throwing the odd clone in to fill space but giving the breeding stock first dibs for the next few months. Cheers.
 

Mohican

Well-Known Member
Thanks - I love the effects of a good sativa so much.

I just finished processing my photos from today. I chopped one of my mystery sativa crosses from the Ace Purple Haze location. It was starting to reveg in the most crazy looking way. I left a little one in the ground to see what it does:




Here is the the rough trimmed cola from the Proto #2:




And this is why I didn't care about the trim:




Cheers,
Mo
 

GroErr

Well-Known Member
Thanks - I love the effects of a good sativa so much.

I just finished processing my photos from today. I chopped one of my mystery sativa crosses from the Ace Purple Haze location. It was starting to reveg in the most crazy looking way. I left a little one in the ground to see what it does:




Here is the the rough trimmed cola from the Proto #2:




And this is why I didn't care about the trim:




Cheers,
Mo
Nice, I have a re-veg clone from one of my Blue Ripper phenos looking a lot like that right now, they don't even look like pot plants until they fully re-veg!

I see why you're trim job was rough, just did the same with one Panama pheno I open pollinated, hacked it as-is, all I want is the seeds and the rest will go into the hash bin. They don't need no stinkin trimmin! ;)
 

GroErr

Well-Known Member
What is Triple Mix?
Hey Underground, missed this post too, been tapping into the Panama a bit much ;)

It's a common soil mix you can get up here, usually a mix of loam/top soil, peat, and compost. I get some locally at a gardening centre that they add sheep manure when it's available. I cut that about 50/50 with Pro-Mix, creates a nice medium for running in those fabric pots. Fills the pots top to bottom with roots, does't need a lot of feed, I run ~400-450 ppm A&B, every other or 3rd watering depending on the stage. Up here you can buy that tripe mix in bags or by the yard at gardening centres, it's pretty common.
 

Underground Scientist

Well-Known Member
Hey Underground, missed this post too, been tapping into the Panama a bit much ;)

It's a common soil mix you can get up here, usually a mix of loam/top soil, peat, and compost. I get some locally at a gardening centre that they add sheep manure when it's available. I cut that about 50/50 with Pro-Mix, creates a nice medium for running in those fabric pots. Fills the pots top to bottom with roots, does't need a lot of feed, I run ~400-450 ppm A&B, every other or 3rd watering depending on the stage. Up here you can buy that tripe mix in bags or by the yard at gardening centres, it's pretty common.
Yeah, I looked it up. Not real common around here. When you are early in veg, how long does it take for your media to dry out? I'm still figuring out my media/nute relationship. Although, I think I was overreacting to lighter colored leaves on my plants. I had it in my head that if they weren't dark green I was messing up. Increased Calmag and there was darkening at the edges and tips of leaves. Necrotic spotting on some margins, leaf tip curl. Over Fed. My newest that are more indica than indica/sativa hybrid darkens up where the other ones don't so much.
 

GroErr

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I looked it up. Not real common around here. When you are early in veg, how long does it take for your media to dry out? I'm still figuring out my media/nute relationship. Although, I think I was overreacting to lighter colored leaves on my plants. I had it in my head that if they weren't dark green I was messing up. Increased Calmag and there was darkening at the edges and tips of leaves. Necrotic spotting on some margins, leaf tip curl. Over Fed. My newest that are more indica than indica/sativa hybrid darkens up where the other ones don't so much.
That really varies, they grow quick in veg so you can be watering every 4 days and all of the sudden you're at every other day before you up-pot. Different strains and phenos drink more/less. You can't really go on a schedule other than when I transfer a clone into 1gal it starts around every 4 days, then goes down to 3, then 2 which is typically when I'll up-pot.
 

GroErr

Well-Known Member
Pulled the second 5 gal Panama P4, Day 75, she wasn't doing much more, done. Some serious weight in those buds. So dense you can't really squeeze them. Door is 36" wide, door knob is 37" from the floor.

Those Citi COBs look like keepers, they were the primary light over those two Panama's, I'm guessing somewhere in the 240-260g range dry between them.

Panama-P4-Harvest-Day75-1.JPG Panama-P4-Harvest-Day75-2.JPG Panama-P4-Harvest-Day75-3.JPG Panama-P4-Harvest-Day75-4.JPG

Cheers :bigjoint:
 

The Dawg

Well-Known Member

GroErr

Well-Known Member
So now that the last round is finally finished, here's a recap of what was in there. Harvest was staggered over 20 days, 8 plants total.

Grabbed a very nice male from the Panama run (pollen in the freezer, almost ready to hit one of the up-coming Skunk #1 phenos), and the P4 female will be bred on, that plant has some nice traits like great flower to leaf ratio (trimming will be a breeze), very nice lemon and wood smells, and great production with those rock-hard buds. Nice stash from some of my favourite clones too :)

3 gal, Day 55 Blue Pyramid (1st) and Blue Ripper x Blue Dream:

Blue Pyramid-Harvest-Day55-1.JPG
BRxBD-P1-Harvest-Day55-1.JPG

3 gal, Day 60, 2x Blue Harley's:

Blue Harley1-Harvest-Day60-2.JPG
Blue Harley2-Harvest-Day60-2.JPG

3 gal, Day 64, Blue Ripper F2/P3 (1st) and Blue Ripper F2/P5:

BlueRipper-F2-P3-Day64-Harvest-2.JPG
BlueRipper-F2-P5-Day64-Harvest-2.JPG

5 gal, Day 70, Panama P6 from seed:

Panama-P6-Harvest-Day70-1.JPG

5 gal, Day 75, Panama P4 from seed:

Panama-P4-Harvest-Day75-2.JPG

Cheers :bigjoint:
 
Top