GreenX ~ Aero Trials ... Grow 1 (w/ Pictures)

ZEN MASTER

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hey what up GREENPHEONIX, i wish i could give you some input on some of those strains. but to be honest the last time i had some real good smoke was in 1998 when ilived in Arizona, and we went to Cali and bought some Chronic. since then its just been the same 'ol regular crap. but its funny though when i took the seeds from the stuff i had bought over the years, and grew it myself it was better than i remembered it being originally. that's why i finally got the nerve to order some seeds. but i wanted to ask your opinion as far as word of mouth or first hand experience of course i have the BLUE VENOM, but i noticed that you mentioned something about Nirvana. well i have their NORTHERN LIGHTS and i'm abot six weeks through, and i was lucky enough to get both the sativa and indica phenotype so i'm happy about that, i was just wondering if you could give me your take on it if you know anything about it, and give some sort of mini review on it. if you can thanks a million, but if you can't thanks a 999,999. and hey i f you get a chance stop by my journal an tell me what you think, will be putting up some new pics tomorrow. take it easy man.

PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
 

growinman

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The 40 plant aero system I built is proving to be quite difficult, especially since I'm running so many different plants instead of 40 clones of one phenotype <- Which would be the ideal way to go!!!
Yes, I hear you!! And your right on the money too! I am running 2 different strains(ak-ww) in my 20 siter right now.......went in at the same time too, but, I am frying the AK trying to get enough nutes to the ww and I had the same thing happen last run with ss - ak: killed half of the ss's trying to nute the ak, haha, go figure, huh...... I just wasn't ready either time with 20 vegged clones of the same thing ready to go at the right time....... next run I will have them ready:mrgreen:.......

I just got the rest of the parts today to build a veg unit similar to what you built......and kind of like StinkBuds too. I got the 37 gal tote as the bigger ones weren't in too good of shape. I'd been vegging in a dwc.......so this unit should tighten things up a bit and make some excellent aero roots, haha!<----those roots on your plants before you went 12/12 the first time in that system were 'to die for!'; I'd just never be able to veg that long unless I were growing M Blaze style, haha! But having roots anything like that......they'd just FREAK in my system:blsmoke:

Have you considered trying the pvc fencing or pipe? You can put them as close together as you like, even have them sit on the res(so many ways) and your only running about as many sprayers as in your set-up...... I dont know, just an idea for you......they dont leak either. I am sure you have already looked into those and have your reasons for preferring the totes......
I am curious what you do for your ventilation and smell issues(seeings how you've done the AK before?).

:peace:gman
 

GreenphoeniX

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hey what up GREENPHEONIX, i wish i could give you some input on some of those strains. but to be honest the last time i had some real good smoke was in 1998 when ilived in Arizona, and we went to Cali and bought some Chronic. since then its just been the same 'ol regular crap. but its funny though when i took the seeds from the stuff i had bought over the years, and grew it myself it was better than i remembered it being originally. that's why i finally got the nerve to order some seeds. but i wanted to ask your opinion as far as word of mouth or first hand experience of course i have the BLUE VENOM, but i noticed that you mentioned something about Nirvana. well i have their NORTHERN LIGHTS and i'm abot six weeks through, and i was lucky enough to get both the sativa and indica phenotype so i'm happy about that, i was just wondering if you could give me your take on it if you know anything about it, and give some sort of mini review on it. if you can thanks a million, but if you can't thanks a 999,999. and hey i f you get a chance stop by my journal an tell me what you think, will be putting up some new pics tomorrow. take it easy man.

PEACE!!!
-ZEN-
Hey! Northern Lights aye! ... It's been around awhile now, and it's a classic for a reason! Haha. It's good stuff, pretty much every respectable seedbank sells a version of it and it's been used as breeding stock for so many modern hybrids!

I don't have experience with the Nirvana NL, but I would say u'd get the standard Nirvana phenotype variation - So keep an eye out for that outstanding keeper to make a mother plant!!!

NL is easy, it's great for beginners, easy to grow, easy to clone, very forgiving of mistreatment and a good producer. Nice and small, pretty much was one of the first strains breed specifically for cultivation in a space limited indoor environment.

It's been a long time since I've had any NL, but it's always been a nice smoke/stone. I'm not that into the stone/indica buzz these days, but as far as stones go, it's nice.

If you're willing to spend the money a some point, and want some of the most brutally awesome smoke you can come across these days, look into Sensi Seeds Northern Lights #5 x Haze <- Is expensive but amazing. I currently have a pack of the Nirvana rip off version (Northern Light x Haze) ... Haven't grown them out yet so not sure what they're like, hopefully a keeper in their!
Be warned, you'll need plenty of space for this one, and preferably some experience with the slightly more difficult, and fussy, sativa dominant strains!

Yes, I hear you!! And your right on the money too! I am running 2 different strains(ak-ww) in my 20 siter right now.......went in at the same time too, but, I am frying the AK trying to get enough nutes to the ww and I had the same thing happen last run with ss - ak: killed half of the ss's trying to nute the ak, haha, go figure, huh...... I just wasn't ready either time with 20 vegged clones of the same thing ready to go at the right time....... next run I will have them ready
Yip! I'm not the only one!!! YAY! haha

Have you considered trying the pvc fencing or pipe? You can put them as close together as you like, even have them sit on the res(so many ways) and your only running about as many sprayers as in your set-up...... I dont know, just an idea for you......they dont leak either. I am sure you have already looked into those and have your reasons for preferring the totes......
I am curious what you do for your ventilation and smell issues(seeings how you've done the AK before?).
Cheers for the input! ... I'll post some more up to date pics of my current setup soon!

As for the ventilation, I use a 250mm Spectrum Centrifugal Fan, it moves about 792m3 of air per hour. My intake is a 200mm passive intake, so the room does have a slight vacuum going on, plants seem to love it! (+ 2 small fans for air circulation, occasional throw in another 2 if I feel the need)
For the odor control, I use a Carbon Coal Filter, well, actually an Odorsok, but it's basically a cheaper, disposable version of a Carbon Coal Filter - Works just as good!!! Lasts a good 1-2 years, depending on strain smelliness ;) Should be available at your local Grow Store.

Cheers all!

ADDED

Here's some nice new pics for you! - Damn HPS lighting sucks for photos!!! - These are somewhere in the 2nd week of flowering.

Here's my current situation, the beast on the right of the pic is White Widow, there's 1 in the front and 1 behind, but basically what you see in the entire right half of the pic is 1 WW plant haha.


Here is a leaf from that WW next to a 1 Litre Head Master Bottle. Rather large leaves as u can see:


These are the roots of those WW on the right of previous pics:

Check them trying to bust the white wick pot they're coming through... Note to self - Use larger pots in future!!!


Here's the lovely Blue Venom next to a 1 Litre Budzilla bottle! - She's looking better in flower after a bit of a rough veg - She disliked the nutes that the WW love! haha


Cheers!
 

growinman

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Wow, sure looks similar to my WW from G13....and yah, boy does it GO! And I sure hope those yield nice huge colas as mine have so far.......Thinking I was chopping off leafs about at that stage(within the first few weeks of 12/12), against all opinions---really had no choice and it worked great. I just need to flush better this time.....first run I only flushed a few days. I will get up some pics to show you too<----I've been taking them everyday......just haven't figured out imageshack enough to link to them(and it's easy..?) and didn't want to bump my gallery here anymore.....
What are your plans for support?
I tried the odor sock first before my big can, and also one of those 'OrganicAir' filters for my ac----didn't come close.......thinking I may already need a new can50 after 6 mos...... and my problem may be mainly from the AK47........

Those are looking great!! Have fun!!

gman!!
 

GreenphoeniX

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Wow, sure looks similar to my WW from G13....and yah, boy does it GO! And I sure hope those yield nice huge colas as mine have so far.......Thinking I was chopping off leafs about at that stage(within the first few weeks of 12/12), against all opinions---really had no choice and it worked great. I just need to flush better this time.....first run I only flushed a few days. I will get up some pics to show you too<----I've been taking them everyday......just haven't figured out imageshack enough to link to them(and it's easy..?) and didn't want to bump my gallery here anymore.....
What are your plans for support?
I tried the odor sock first before my big can, and also one of those 'OrganicAir' filters for my ac----didn't come close.......thinking I may already need a new can50 after 6 mos...... and my problem may be mainly from the AK47........

Those are looking great!! Have fun!!

gman!!
Haha, yea AK-47 will rip those carbon filters wide open lol ... So will super skunk, which is a worry, coz I'm going to be runnning both of those strains together in future. The WW I got free from G13 Labs is barely worth looking at compared to these ones, although the Blue Venom I got from them is doing pretty well! ... Guess not every seed can produce a keeper! :( haha.

Support will probably just be stringing them up, not fussed this grow, this may be my last grow in awhile as I may be moving, might have time to crank some soil plants through before I move! lol ... New setup (or this one properly adjusted) will be a lot more effecient, in future will probably go with ScrOG, although may have to find another way coz I plan on doing a perpetual system in future.

Cheers! - I look forward to those pics!
 

growinman

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The WW I got free from G13 Labs is barely worth looking at compared to these ones, although the Blue Venom I got from them is doing pretty well! ... Guess not every seed can produce a keeper! :( haha.

Support will probably just be stringing them up, not fussed this grow, this may be my last grow in awhile as I may be moving, might have time to crank some soil plants through before I move! lol ... New setup (or this one properly adjusted) will be a lot more effecient, in future will probably go with ScrOG, although may have to find another way coz I plan on doing a perpetual system in future.

Cheers! - I look forward to those pics!
Yeah, my WW was the freebie fem seed too...is why I said I haven't heard anything good about it....heard total sh*t, you know. Well, they screwed up giving me this one, haha.....she's most definately a keeper! On the other hand, the SS I've been growing for years(from WeedFarmer) never had smell at all until curing, never used a filter at all.....and I still do runs of it and it is probably one of the favorites around here.... The old skool RKS, haha, I wish, do I wish.........
I hear you about just tieing them up. I took some of the first WW's I did and just bent the top over, literally crushing the stem with thumb and finger, bend it over---worked awesome and instead of a huge cola I had massive 'plumbs', haha.........but was able to finish it---I cant veg it at all. One thing is that it does very stout branches(I cut all of the little sh*t off).
I 'll get to the pic tonight if I can, yeah yeah, I keep saying that......

Have a great afternoon!

gman
 

GreenphoeniX

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I hear you about just tieing them up. I took some of the first WW's I did and just bent the top over, literally crushing the stem with thumb and finger, bend it over---worked awesome and instead of a huge cola I had massive 'plumbs', haha.........but was able to finish it---I cant veg it at all. One thing is that it does very stout branches(I cut all of the little sh*t off).
I 'll get to the pic tonight if I can, yeah yeah, I keep saying that......

Have a great afternoon!

gman
Yea mate, that crushing stem and bending over is called 'super-cropping' ... I've used it on those white widow in the pics so a few of the auxiliary buds race to the light and I get more high quality tops, no use have them shaded in the undergrowth!!! In fact some of the tops u see in those pics are from the lowest parts of the plant.

IMO super-cropping (with a little bit of LST here and there) is the next best thing to ScrOG, really should of had myself better sorted with a screen ready to go haha!
 

GreenphoeniX

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ARGH!!!! My second biggest widow just ripped out it's balls! Chopped him out today. There goes 50% my expected yield!!! ... The price paid for not using tried and true female clones! Oh well, I'm thinking of flowering out all the plants I currently have (including all my female Super Lemon Haze!) and starting again fresh from seed in a few months time! ... If the SLH is good I can always order fresh seeds... And I still have my Lady Sativa mother.

Hmmm... Hard decisions!!!
 
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