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Mass Medicinals

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~Gu often comments really quickly both in emails, forum pms and in this thread. We had issues with paying for an order. The emails went back and forth for a day or two. I would say that was beyond excellent customer service.

We were waiting for the next black Friday to pull the trigger on the next seed pickup. We do often go for the best deal, but GPS with the rewards program was a front runner.

Most seed vendors have rewards programs that have an expiration date. GPS was one of the few which didn't. And it's a domestic vendor! So hopeful the rewards program will return.

Right now it looks like even the silver gold and diamond rewards are not displaying their discount.

Companies go through reorgs all the time. We are not going to avoid GPS simply because they are in that process now. Have patience things will get sorted, and if not plenty of places to get seeds.
 

kds710

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Looks fire! As much as I hate this guys business practices now and how he lies about shit he does have some fire. Needs to pull the reigns back on the trump style business management and get back to what made him what he is. Solid strains crossed to a proven male where the customer comes first . I only bought one pack from him and was wedding cake shit 1s and when I complained he jumped All over me and I was pissed but he eventually made it right. Maybe he will see what everyone is saying and listen and do it the right way where people aren’t questioning everything because your just trying to make a buck off the backs of the people who made you who you are. Stop the bullshit and steer the ship back around. Customers first with solid TESTED genetics. I have packs from @Gu from what I presume are his flagship/solid strains. Cookies n Chem, OBS, Bodega Bubblegum, Copper Chem. Why not work the lines and turn it into something to be proud about and fix your situation. Fast money schemes never work and people might come back and buy packs if you show you care and you have reliable tested products. I was going to pop a bunch of these packs next but I’m shook as with alll that has gone on I don’t even know if I trust that’s what is in the packages anymore. Sorry for the novel !
I get the whole s1 thing I myself wouldn't put my time and effort into any of them. But the strains you mentioned, cnc obs bodega bubblegum and copper chem have been grown out here on this thread with great reports and pictures to back them up. Everything that's been going on lately shouldn't stop someone from running any of the star dawg crosses if the goal is to find some really nice keepers. On the other hand some people are just ready to move on from the star dawg crosses but as far as stability and quality goes I wouldn't worry about that.


@Flash63 nice work!
 

blowincherrypie

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~Gu often comments really quickly both in emails, forum pms and in this thread.
Have you seen the last 100 pages lol not much communication and multiple people say they havent gotten any response through email.. When I had an issue with a couple orders when the mail was getting popped, I couldnt get a response and wound up missing a pack.. To be fair, he made things right but there were a couple weeks where there was zero communication.
 

Yodaweed

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Looks fire! As much as I hate this guys business practices now and how he lies about shit he does have some fire. Needs to pull the reigns back on the trump style business management and get back to what made him what he is. Solid strains crossed to a proven male where the customer comes first . I only bought one pack from him and was wedding cake shit 1s and when I complained he jumped All over me and I was pissed but he eventually made it right. Maybe he will see what everyone is saying and listen and do it the right way where people aren’t questioning everything because your just trying to make a buck off the backs of the people who made you who you are. Stop the bullshit and steer the ship back around. Customers first with solid TESTED genetics. I have packs from @Gu from what I presume are his flagship/solid strains. Cookies n Chem, OBS, Bodega Bubblegum, Copper Chem. Why not work the lines and turn it into something to be proud about and fix your situation. Fast money schemes never work and people might come back and buy packs if you show you care and you have reliable tested products. I was going to pop a bunch of these packs next but I’m shook as with alll that has gone on I don’t even know if I trust that’s what is in the packages anymore. Sorry for the novel !
Don't expect this guy to test his strains he's a straight chucker of unknown clones he finds from whatever source he can, not really a breeder so don't expect breeder quality expect untested possibly shit genetics with mutants and all kinds of retarded never ending white hairs that lack potency. He doesn't even use real cuts, most of this guys shit is fake if it wasn't he'd post pictures of his mother plants to prove us wrong but he won't because he's a scam. Why the fuck else would he be selling seeds for 20 bucks on auction , it's not because he's trying to get his genetics out there it's because that's what they are worth.
 

Flash63

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You got that endless white hair thing going, i had that too on my GPS strains.

Pretty sure that's the father plant that does that since i see it in many GPS crosses.
They are only 30 something days into flower,so I expect white hairs,but I know what you mean after growing out copper chem which was a disappointment big time.
 

Heisengrow

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I see the auctions are going down by 5% now, instead of 10%. Seems every move he's made recently, has been a greedy one. Not what I want from a breeder, strike that, chucker, strike that, salesperson.
No one cares.people will still keep posting them king Kong dingleberry buds and buying it up.he knows it.thats why it's not even an issue.people will adjust to the lube and keep on keeping on.luckily my head wasnt up my ass and saw all this for it was worth.like i said all you need is a website and a few name name drops.someone with a huge facility willing to run a few so u can take a few nice pics.the rest is history.
 

Derrick83

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I see the auctions are going down by 5% now, instead of 10%. Seems every move he's made recently, has been a greedy one. Not what I want from a breeder, strike that, chucker, strike that, salesperson.
It drops 5% evey 5 minutes vs 10% every 15 minutes!! So how is that greedy??
 

Mass Medicinals

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Have you seen the last 100 pages lol not much communication and multiple people say they havent gotten any response through email.. When I had an issue with a couple orders when the mail was getting popped, I couldnt get a response and wound up missing a pack.. To be fair, he made things right but there were a couple weeks where there was zero communication.
Look. I'm not promoting less of a deal for the consumer. Since that's the group we also fall into. It's not pleasant. But at the same time, the quality of the seeds is what should be the focus. And I don't see anyone complaining about quality.

Also I don't really think 100 pages means a whole lot. Since we could likely blow past that in a couple days on such a hot topic.

On other forums it looks like he's been offline for a week. That shouldn't be a crime, nor GPS's right to change their policy and possibly phase out the rewards program.

End of the day there are other seed vendors.
 

Michael Huntherz

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Don't expect this guy to test his strains he's a straight chucker of unknown clones he finds from whatever source he can, not really a breeder so don't expect breeder quality expect untested possibly shit genetics with mutants and all kinds of retarded never ending white hairs that lack potency. He doesn't even use real cuts, most of this guys shit is fake if it wasn't he'd post pictures of his mother plants to prove us wrong but he won't because he's a scam. Why the fuck else would he be selling seeds for 20 bucks on auction , it's not because he's trying to get his genetics out there it's because that's what they are worth.
Lol, you say that like he is the only chucker slinging beans in the whole world. Really disciplined seed producers who work their lines with thoughtful multi-generational selective breeding are the exception, not the rule. I am not saying it is a desirable trend, but that’s the trend in the market. GPS puts out a lot of fire, your comment seems off the mark. Get mad about the S1s and Payofix or get mad about the changes to the nuggets system, or even get mad about the lapse in customer service because they were on their honeymoon, but getting mad about an occasional phenotype that sucks is goofy, especially sonce your know they are first generation chucks, it isn’t like they hide that fact, either. Some of the stuff you said seems entirely fabricated to me. Repeating claims his cuts are fake does not prove or disprove anything, nor does the repetition make those claims more true.
I think you enjoy finding extra reasons to get angry, and I see others doing the same thing. You have a lot of company, but those sort of posts look like petulant toddlers throwing a fit to me. Maybe relax a little?
 
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Heisengrow

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Look. I'm not promoting less of a deal for the consumer. Since that's the group we also fall into. It's not pleasant. But at the same time, the quality of the seeds is what should be the focus. And I don't see anyone complaining about quality.

Also I don't really think 100 pages means a whole lot. Since we could likely blow past that in a couple days on such a hot topic.

On other forums it looks like he's been offline for a week. That shouldn't be a crime, nor GPS's right to change their policy and possibly phase out the rewards program.

End of the day there are other seed vendors.
Why do people only suck his nuts on a thread he comes on.the other forums are full of complaints that they know he will never read.dude ain't gonna cut no breaks or give you'll free packs of seeds.
His seeds suck.i popped 4 packs and only half germinated.i got 7 females out 22 and they looked like hammered dick.the ones I tosssed were even worse.12 inch plants in rdwc with 30 branches and shit.rediculous how these phenos are all over the map.majority of what I'm seeing looks like giant upside down hanging dingleberrys.GP is nothing like it was a year ago back when Bob and a few others were posting.anyone who thinks any of this shit looks good dont get out much or havnt ran anything else besides GP.
I'm not saying it's all garbage but the majority really looks like bottom end shit from great lakes genetic pollen chuck department.
Matter of fact some of the stuff in the pollen chuck thread looks as good or better.indont get where people keep calling all this latest stuff fire when multiple people are saying the stuff isnt finishing and weak.one thing I find funny that has been brought up several. Times and gu skipped around was if he lost his male.dollars to donuts it went into full flower mode and is gone.thats just my opinion
 

blowincherrypie

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Look. I'm not promoting less of a deal for the consumer. Since that's the group we also fall into. It's not pleasant. But at the same time, the quality of the seeds is what should be the focus. And I don't see anyone complaining about quality.

Also I don't really think 100 pages means a whole lot. Since we could likely blow past that in a couple days on such a hot topic.

On other forums it looks like he's been offline for a week. That shouldn't be a crime, nor GPS's right to change their policy and possibly phase out the rewards program.

End of the day there are other seed vendors.

The zero communication I was referring to was a couple months (?) back when the packs were getting popped.. This isn't about being "offline for a week". When things are going good, you get a reply within 12 hours. Whenever there are problems it seems like he stops reading emails or something..

Nobody is faulting dude for taking some time off after getting married.. but during that time off there are changes being made + zero communication.. I feel for the people who are out a lot of nuggets, that shits gotta be frustrating as hell..
Its definitely tru there are plenty of other vendors.. Rusty at CVS is doing his own thing now and has deals that bring the price down to GPS pricing (even better that GPS pricing right now.. yall better get over there!!) GLG always has great promos (still pissed I missed this last BOGO Jaws drop!!) other people are getting competitive with their pricing..

Gu made it clear that he doesn't give two shits about my cc getting compromised so Im not spending another dime on GPS (Ive got literally everything I want anyways lol).. I'm just here for the drama baby!

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jayblaze710

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I see the auctions are going down by 5% now, instead of 10%. Seems every move he's made recently, has been a greedy one. Not what I want from a breeder, strike that, chucker, strike that, salesperson.
He’s been this way for a long time, and I’ve been calling him out on it for a long time. Only, everyone was so far up in Gu’s shit because you can get cheap packs, that people would choose to attack me instead.

S1’s. Not emailing people when they turned out to be fake. Payofix. Fake pics. No testing. Removing nuggets without notice. His business practices have sucked for a long, long time. This isn’t anything new.
Look. I'm not promoting less of a deal for the consumer. Since that's the group we also fall into. It's not pleasant. But at the same time, the quality of the seeds is what should be the focus. And I don't see anyone complaining about quality.

Also I don't really think 100 pages means a whole lot. Since we could likely blow past that in a couple days on such a hot topic.

On other forums it looks like he's been offline for a week. That shouldn't be a crime, nor GPS's right to change their policy and possibly phase out the rewards program.

End of the day there are other seed vendors.
This has been Gu’s MO for a long time. He just ignores complaints in this thread. And for a long time it worked, because everyone in this thread would defend the indefensible. It’s only within the last week that people have finally started listening to complaints.

As for the nuggets, they were a large incentive to purchase. They were given out in lieu of refunds during the S1 fiasco. Removing them without warning is complete and utter bullshit.
Lol, you say that like he is the only chucker slinging beans in the whole world. Really disciplined seed producers who work their lines with thoughtful multi-generational selective breeding are the exception, not the rule. I am not saying it is a desirable trend, but that’s the trend in the market. GPS puts out a lot of fire, your comment seems off the mark. Get mad about the S1s and Payofix or get mad about the changes to the nuggets system, or even get mad about the lapse in customer service because they were on their honeymoon, but getting mad about an occasional phenotype that sucks is goofy, especially sonce your know they are first generation chucks, it isn’t like they hide that fact, either. Some of the stuff you said seems entirely fabricated to me. Repeating claims his cuts are fake does not prove or disprove anything, nor does the repetition make those claims more true.
I think you enjoy finding extra reasons to get angry, and I see others doing the same thing. You have a lot of company, but those sort of posts look like petulant toddlers throwing a fit to me. Maybe relax a little?
Yeah everyone chucks. But Gu is on a whole different level. He didn’t select his male. He didn’t select his females. He doesn’t test his crosses. He steals pics to represent his strains.

Can you think of another “breeder” that does the same? Some shitty seed banks probably do the same thing, but that’s it. There are probably a dozen chuckers active in this thread that are better breeders than Gu. And they trade or give away their seeds.
 

coppershot

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Lol, you say that like he is the only chucker slinging beans in the whole world. Really disciplined seed producers who work their lines with thoughtful multi-generational selective breeding are the exception, not the rule. I am not saying it is a desirable trend, but that’s the trend in the market. GPS puts out a lot of fire, your comment seems off the mark. Get mad about the S1s and Payofix or get mad about the changes to the nuggets system, or even get mad about the lapse in customer service because they were on their honeymoon, but getting mad about an occasional phenotype that sucks is goofy, especially sonce your know they are first generation chucks, it isn’t like they hide that fact, either. Some of the stuff you said seems entirely fabricated to me. Repeating claims his cuts are fake does not prove or disprove anything, nor does the repetition make those claims more true.
I think you enjoy finding extra reasons to get angry, and I see others doing the same thing. You have a lot of company, but those sort of posts look like petulant toddlers throwing a fit to me. Maybe relax a little?
Dont even bother as it's not worth your time . It's reasonable for folks to state facts, but the lack of overall objectivity is downright sad. This thread is a dumpster fire and should just be deleted.
 

Yodaweed

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Lol, you say that like he is the only chucker slinging beans in the whole world. Really disciplined seed producers who work their lines with thoughtful multi-generational selective breeding are the exception, not the rule. I am not saying it is a desirable trend, but that’s the trend in the market. GPS puts out a lot of fire, your comment seems off the mark. Get mad about the S1s and Payofix or get mad about the changes to the nuggets system, or even get mad about the lapse in customer service because they were on their honeymoon, but getting mad about an occasional phenotype that sucks is goofy, especially sonce your know they are first generation chucks, it isn’t like they hide that fact, either. Some of the stuff you said seems entirely fabricated to me. Repeating claims his cuts are fake does not prove or disprove anything, nor does the repetition make those claims more true.
I think you enjoy finding extra reasons to get angry, and I see others doing the same thing. You have a lot of company, but those sort of posts look like petulant toddlers throwing a fit to me. Maybe relax a little?
Pretty sure dude is using anything he can get his hands on and has no morale compass at all. If you wanna believe he has the cuts without ever seeing a picture of a single mother plant...well an idiot is born every second.

Just check his IG it's a memefest instead of a legit growing company there's zero pictures of the mother plants, how can you be ok with this? You just gonna take this guys word for it ? He just posted a pic of the art of the deal, do you think those methods are going to be trustworthy or honest?

He's using fake cuts and stealing peoples pictures and write ups and using them like he owns them....really dishonest. Why do you think people are complaining and calling him out? It's because if he had the real deal he wouldn't mind posting a picture like every single other breeder does on their IG.

Dude probably went to craigslist for half these crosses he does, he does not do any type of breeding just a chuck and sell. So don't expect any type of testing , you will get never ending plants from this guy's garbage I can almost guarantee that. You also cannot trust this guy, there is zero transparency at all, and he is dishonest with his breeding and business practices.

When you are so greedy that you are willing to use a completely untrustworthy vendor for your clients credit card information, and literally do not give two fucks about the fraud that goes on after the transaction, what else are you doing?

My final thought : DO NOT TRUST GPS.
 
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hantastic1

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popped a 2nd pack of Doc Holidays and got 6 females. out of those 6, 2 developed nanners. culled them with the quickness. and out of those 4 females, 2 look pretty decent, but not worth keeping around. my 2 cents.
 
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