Green House Seed co... of these 3 strains which have LESS ODOR during flowering???

TigerHawk

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I have GHS Feminized:

Lemon Skunk
Trainwreck
Big Bang

Can anyone with experience with any or all of the above 3 strains, tell me which one has LESS ODOR during flowering periods? And also, which ones have more odor over the others(so I know to apply caution)?

I'm looking to do a SCROG setup soon, and in my indoor environment I would like to go with the lesser odorous strains I have, to test things out and start off with....

Any help is very much appreciated!!!!!
 
mared juwan

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I don't know about Big Bang but Lemon Skunk smells less than Trainwreck. I grew both of these and Lemon Skunk had a mild sweet apple smell.... no skunk at all. Trainwreck was pretty pungent with a rank fishy type odor. Personally I liked Lemon Skunk better. The potency is the best of the GreenHouse strains I've tried and the sweet apple flavor is very nice.
 
tomato worm

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Ive done the LS and Big Bang. (not trainwreck)

I agree with Mared, LS is nice. It smells less than the BB but its better bud. Does indeed have an appley smell, I dont really smell any "lemon" or "skunk". My BB smelled... really funky. Not too strong actually, but again less than the LS for sure.

Having said that.. I think the BB would be better for indoor, specially for a scrog. The way that its nodes etc. grow make it a perfect scrog candidate. The LS has more sativa in it and it stretches more, and its just plain taller. It does seem to do well with lst.
 
mared juwan

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Very true, Lemon Skunk would not make a good scrog plant. It's quite tall and spindly. Every one I have seen has been very sativa in appearance.
 
Brick Top

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The only one I could comment on would be Lemon Skunk. In my case it had very little odor unless handled and then there was a strong, but not powerful like it would fill a whole room sort of scent, of lemon or at least a citrus odor and not sweet, and it didn’t last all that long.
　
If you pick Lemon Skunk I hope you like your women tall because unless you do something and do it fast you will have the WNBA in your grow room … nothing but tall girls.
　
I do not recall the numbers at the moment but the rate of growth once in flower was much more than I expected from the cross that it is. Sativa prominent or not I did not expect it to take off as much or as fast as it did.
　
It was like the second the HPS hit it, it took off faster than an Ethiopian who just heard there is a free all you can eat steak and lobster buffet in the next village over.
　
If height or lack of light penetration is an issue, either have a good plan in place or pick something else because these girls can easily outgrow someone’s lighting and or height if you are not ready for them. One day you will look at them and wonder if someone actually sold you Jack’s Magic Beans because those girls will appear to be bound for the clouds.
　
They will top out on their own. Mine did somewhere around 6 feet, give or take 2 inches and that was about 2 feet more than I wanted and about 1 ½ feet more than I expected since Green House Seeds call its height "medium."
　
Other than that part I would say it would be a great choice.
 
smppro

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Ive grown lemon skunk and trainwreck, both like to stretch their branches. Neither one were too strong imo, trainwreck was stronger, like mentioned above lemon skunk smells once you touch it, and mine smells like straight sweet lemons, along with the taste, super sticky too, one of my favorites so far. I lst'd my first lemon skunk and had lots of little heads, ima scrog it this time, tame those branches.
 
aknight3

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yes trainwreck is very stretchy and doesnt like to much nutes, at least my pheno didnt, i used 1 mom, lower yield than i expected, but still good, bigger than most but not as big as i was hoping for
 
mared juwan

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Am I the only one who got an unpleasant taste/smell with the Trainwreck? All my other GreenHouse plants smell and taste great. It definitely has nothing to do with the way I grew it but is the natural smell of the pheno I got. It develops like the smell with every other strain except it reeks like curry fish. I've smoked other "Trainwreck" (in my locale you never know what it really is unless you grow it yourself) and it was nothing like this one. But growth structure and leaf shape was consistent with just about every other GHS Trainwreck example I've seen. IDK did I get a freak flavor or what? Can anybody please tell me what the "normal" smell and taste is like? Thanks.
 
aknight3

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i thoguht gh trainwreck reminded me of diesel, some type of diesel cross with the arcata imo, the arcata cut reminds me of citrusy skunk heaven, but arcata smells better but gh tw is also stanky
 
mared juwan

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aknight3 said:
i thoguht gh trainwreck reminded me of diesel, some type of diesel cross with the arcata imo, the arcata cut reminds me of citrusy skunk heaven, but arcata smells better but gh tw is also stanky
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Thank you. That sounds a lot better than mine. This is why I think the GHS fem mix packs are both good and bad. Sure I got to try five different strains and only needed to buy five seeds to do it but I'm not sure the single example of each strain I got is truly representative of the genetics. I see many people really like GHS White Rhino and Trainwreck. I didn't like either. I see a lot of people who don't really like the Cheese. I think it's awesome. The only one I've seen consistent across the board reviews on is Lemon Skunk. But yea if my TW was dieselly or skunky I would have liked it a lot better. Thanks again.
 
aknight3

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i personally think its from lack of experience in breeding and selection, bad breeding = many phenos = bad genetics, not saying its al bad, but thatswhat happens when ur in it just for the $$$$$$$$$$$ thats why i dont buy from ghs anymore
 
Brick Top

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aknight3 said:
i personally think its from lack of experience in breeding and selection, bad breeding = many phenos = bad genetics, not saying its al bad, but thatswhat happens when ur in it just for the $$$$$$$$$$$ thats why i dont buy from ghs anymore
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I think it goes beyond that. You have to consider what a breeder has to work with starting with whatever pure strains they may have plus any crosses that were kept for some reason but later became parts of different crosses and then the final results of each breeding attempt.

That may seems like a lot to work with but it really isn’t. You can only go to the well so many times.

After a while you end up making different variations of the same general thing that everyone else is making and then you hit a point where you are only partially breeding, as in new combinations and at the same time back-breeding because you have dipped back into something else from your stable that is already in at least part of what you will not be crossing it with.

Then you really start getting things that are like pretty much the same but with some small minor twist that neither makes it better or worse, just different than a boatload of other strains that are close enough to being the same that their own mothers would have a hard time telling them apart.
　
Eventually every breeder find themselves in a position where their hands are somewhat tied unless they are willing to step out of their line and use something from someone else’s line in their creation and some just will not do that.
　
If they do not find a way to increase the size of their stable they eventually hit a point of diminishing returns because you end up putting a certain amount of time and effort and expense into creating something and it turns out to be so similar to a dozen other strains, three of them your own, so it really wasn’t worth doing it unless your real or true or only hope was that it will sell just because it is new.
　
I think that some while back breeding in general hit its peak given what most breeders have to work with and the big exciting finds have already been found and since then it seems to be more nuance, things like flavor and odor and color and gimmickry.

Think about it a moment. When was the last strain released that really knocked the marijuana world on its butt? What was the last one that really took the place by storm and stood out above all the rest? How long ago has that been? Heck, how many strains like that have there even been?
　
The rest, even possibly more than just a few cup winners, have been nothing more than the celebration of repackaged mediocrity.
　
Having had my rant: I think Green House Seeds does have a few strains that while not top of the pops are very good values for the dollar.

Sometimes the next best choice is better but not enough better for the large difference in price so for the person with a little more of a constrained budget Green House does offer a few values.

I just wouldn’t assume that if you tried one thing in the line and you really liked it that you wouldn’t skip the research process before buying beans again and just instantly pick something from the Green House Seeds line believing they will all be of equal value.
 
aknight3

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I think that some while back breeding in general hit its peak given what most breeders have to work with and the big exciting finds have already been found and since then it seems to be more nuance, things like flavor and odor and color and gimmickry.



i think here is the guts of what your saying brick, and unfortuanatley your right, no one wants collaboration or to swap genetics among seed companies, not that ive seen much of anyways, maybe a few times ive seen something but its rare. ive grown 3 strains from ghs, arjans haze 1, arjans haze 2 and trainwreck, while all being mediocre, my favorite was tw, my least favorite was arjans number 1 although both were less than mediocre. trainwreck i was pleased with. but other than that your right, it seems they have many variations of 1-3 strains, just different names, prices and seed colour haha...ive always wanted to go to south america, southeast asia etc etc and find my own genetics to bring back with me and start breeding, thats the only way you can truely get something that no one has (and having a selection process anyways)



ps: gimmicks gimmicks gimmicks, thats what this business is all about anymore, green house seed company is the wildcat offense :lol: :joint:
 
TigerHawk

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Really good insight guys, thanks for all the feedback and keep it coming if there's more. I've decided that I'm going to do only Lemon Skunk for this go around, especially since there's been so much good feedback said about it on this forum and some others. It also seems that it's one of GHS' more promising strains over some of their others from what I've gathered. I'll save the TW and Big Bang for later runs. Yes I still plan to SCROG and Lemon Skunk is going to be the victim!

My SCROG/closet space is about 2' x 6' in size, any recommended # of plants for this size? I'm thinking 3, any different suggestions?
*Note: this will be under (2) 400w HPS lights.
 
Brick Top

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With that shape and size area with that much light I would say go with four but just be prepared to make them look like a leafy anaconda orgy.

One little tip I might give about Lemon Skunk and depending on how patient you are and how concerned you might get about things at different stages.

In my case, as seems to be the norm, my Lemon Skunk was long and lanky with very spread out budsites. Towards the middle or so of flowering the Lemon Skunk looked like it had been a total waste of time. There were few buds and they were tiny.

When it got to where they should really be plumping up they seemed to get just a little bigger and I thought it was a wasted effort. Then boom .. they lengthened like mad and grew larger around and in the end things turned out to be respectable.
　
I would never say it is going to be a heavy yielder but don’t give up on her until the fat lady has sung because at least in my case the Lemon Skunk held out to the very, very end before making a mad dash to the finish line.
 
TigerHawk

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Brick Top... Thanks for the heads up on that, so now I know what to expect later on. How long did you flower yours for before harvesting? Also at what week flowering did they make that big "boom" in larger bud growth? What was your grow style and what was your yield, do you have a grow journal?
 
mared juwan

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As usual Brick Top is on point. Both about breeders and the bud growth of the Lemon Skunk. First about the breeders.....

From my experience of growing strains from different breeders I know exactly what you are saying when they "dip into their own genetics" for new strains. The result is many strains that are more or less the same. I think Nirvana is guilty of this big-time. Green House maybe a little but not as much as Nirvana. I've grown a few Nirvana strains and a few Green House, among others. The Nirvana strains may LOOK different from eachother but all the buds had a similar taste and smell which was a big clue that they shared genetics. How many reviews have you guys seen of Nirvana strains where the reviewer says they smell and taste like Fruity Pebbles cereal? There's tons and they're all of different Nirvana strains. The Green House strains I grew on the other hand were quite distinctive from eachother so Arjan hasn't totally muddied the waters yet. Whether I liked it or didn't at least each GHS strain seemed to have it's own uniqueness.

Now about the growth of the Lemon Skunk.... what Brick Top said is very accurate. Looking through my journal when I first grew these strains is hilarious. I was super happy about how all the other strains were growing nice big buds but I was consistently hating on the Lemon Skunk until the last two weeks of flower (which for me took 9 weeks total BTW). It was such a stretchy and frail grower with slow bud development but then in the last two weeks the buds explode with new pistil growth and rapid calyx formation and this strain ended up being my favorite of the pack. In the end it looks like a puppy whose ears and paws are too big for its body. The thin stems can barely support the oversized buds. By no means a "large" yield but more than I was expecting early on. So yea don't expect great things from this strain until the very end.


RELATED SIDE BAR: I had mentioned to Brick Top elsewhere that I regretted the decision I made to quit cloning my Lemon Skunk. Well happy news, I cut a branch off the last remaining LS plant when it was at day 34 flower and I actually got it to root. So this strain will continue to be a part of my garden:mrgreen:
 
smppro

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mared juwan said:
As usual Brick Top is on point. Both about breeders and the bud growth of the Lemon Skunk. First about the breeders.....

From my experience of growing strains from different breeders I know exactly what you are saying when they "dip into their own genetics" for new strains. The result is many strains that are more or less the same. I think Nirvana is guilty of this big-time. Green House maybe a little but not as much as Nirvana. I've grown a few Nirvana strains and a few Green House, among others. The Nirvana strains may LOOK different from eachother but all the buds had a similar taste and smell which was a big clue that they shared genetics. How many reviews have you guys seen of Nirvana strains where the reviewer says they smell and taste like Fruity Pebbles cereal? There's tons and they're all of different Nirvana strains. The Green House strains I grew on the other hand were quite distinctive from eachother so Arjan hasn't totally muddied the waters yet. Whether I liked it or didn't at least each GHS strain seemed to have it's own uniqueness.

Now about the growth of the Lemon Skunk.... what Brick Top said is very accurate. Looking through my journal when I first grew these strains is hilarious. I was super happy about how all the other strains were growing nice big buds but I was consistently hating on the Lemon Skunk until the last two weeks of flower (which for me took 9 weeks total BTW). It was such a stretchy and frail grower with slow bud development but then in the last two weeks the buds explode with new pistil growth and rapid calyx formation and this strain ended up being my favorite of the pack. In the end it looks like a puppy whose ears and paws are too big for its body. The thin stems can barely support the oversized buds. By no means a "large" yield but more than I was expecting early on. So yea don't expect great things from this strain until the very end.


RELATED SIDE BAR: I had mentioned to Brick Top elsewhere that I regretted the decision I made to quit cloning my Lemon Skunk. Well happy news, I cut a branch off the last remaining LS plant when it was at day 34 flower and I actually got it to root. So this strain will continue to be a part of my garden:mrgreen:
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nice job, i did the same thing to my ls, about half way through flowering i took 4 little clones, put them in a bubbler, after 2 weeks i was going to toss them then as i lifted the lid 2 of them had roots, so happy dont have to reveg now. Does anybody elses LS have the fattest hairs that you have ever seen.
 
Brick Top

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TigerHawk said:
Brick Top... Thanks for the heads up on that, so now I know what to expect later on. How long did you flower yours for before harvesting? Also at what week flowering did they make that big "boom" in larger bud growth? What was your grow style and what was your yield, do you have a grow journal?
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I don’t count days and keep journals like I used to. The most I do now is to pick a rough date when to start to check out my trichomes and then about then I start to look and keep looking until they tell me what I want to hear. As for yield, well I have never had a scale. I have never sold for profit so I did not need one for that and I have never been that curious as to know exactly how much of a yield I got. I can tell by looking at it if it is above or below normal and that is close enough for me so I would only be guessing.
　
All I will say, again, is don’t expect a heavy yield, just a good respectable one and if you are down to about your last two weeks or even slightly less and it seems like there has been little to no bud swelling/growth in comparison to other strains, don’t give up … just stand back because there is about to be an explosion. Not keeping track of this stuff like i used I I can't say when and for how long and be exact but I would say that it was about 2 weeks before finish I saw a little decent growth but the last 10 or 12 days is when in my case there was the biggest change.
 
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