Government proposal guidance

Dr Kynes

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That's total bullshit and not "legalisation".

I bet you clearly have a commercial interest in this...
i too have a financial interest in weed, as buying dope is expensive as fuck, and the dispensary grass is too often garbage.

im pro total legalization, but check out the OP's username. im bettin his system is a financial institution that collects and passes on tax revenue from cannabis growers and dispensaries as a financial middleman. it wont ever work, as the banking system doesnt work that way. you cant start a weed based building and loan, because weed is federally restricted, and banking is regulated by the federal reserve bank board. the federal reserve trustees will NEVER sign off on any institution as a canabis middleman, and the dea would seize the entire operation as an illegal drug enterprise right before the IRS tries to sieze his "system" as a money laundering front.
 

Mellowman2112

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The reason marijuana will never be legal is because the drug companies do not want a cure all drug available to the population that they can grow in their backyard. That helps with so many issues, such as pain, adhd etc etc etc. They own our congress via huge anonymous campaign donations. Remember, corporations are people.
 

Dr Kynes

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The reason marijuana will never be legal is because the drug companies do not want a cure all drug available to the population that they can grow in their backyard. That helps with so many issues, such as pain, adhd etc etc etc. They own our congress via huge anonymous campaign donations. Remember, corporations are people.
i dont know what this "marijuana" you speak of might be, but we're talking about cannabis which is not a "cure all drug" it's more of a "Fuck It All" drug with some helpful properties for some diseases.
 

1stHempBankLBGrower

Active Member
That's total bullshit and not "legalisation".

I bet you clearly have a commercial interest in this...
Obviously. I have to live as well, yet the word legalization is only an ok by the federal government. I have what they want which is the most unique, powerful, and demanded plans that has every been brought to the federal government And I am convinced because the plans make since for all those involved. Those whom have other thoughts will regret working with any other company. I've worked on this for 2+ years straight now. I am going all in and just need my opponit. Does anyone know whom to talk to besides NORML.
 

Harrekin

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Obviously. I have to live as well, yet the word legalization is only an ok by the federal government. I have what they want which is the most unique, powerful, and demanded plans that has every been brought to the federal government And I am convinced because the plans make since for all those involved. Those whom have other thoughts will regret working with any other company. I've worked on this for 2+ years straight now. I am going all in and just need my opponit. Does anyone know whom to talk to besides NORML.
No no, you want to make cheddar off a regulated (ie. monopolised) "medical marijuana" market with penalties for recreational users...that is BULLSHIT. You talk freedom and "legalisation"?

"Private, what is you major malfunction?!"
 

1stHempBankLBGrower

Active Member
i too have a financial interest in weed, as buying dope is expensive as fuck, and the dispensary grass is too often garbage.

im pro total legalization, but check out the OP's username. im bettin his system is a financial institution that collects and passes on tax revenue from cannabis growers and dispensaries as a financial middleman. it wont ever work, as the banking system doesnt work that way. you cant start a weed based building and loan, because weed is federally restricted, and banking is regulated by the federal reserve bank board. the federal reserve trustees will NEVER sign off on any institution as a canabis middleman, and the dea would seize the entire operation as an illegal drug enterprise right before the IRS tries to sieze his "system" as a money laundering front.
Look as it as guidance in the right locationing. I understand they are powerful enought to take any idea. Especially if it has power and capiblities of generating billions, yet not if your willing to work with them and not against them. We can all work together. It is possible. It's about coming in agreement with one another's request.
 

1stHempBankLBGrower

Active Member
The reason marijuana will never be legal is because the drug companies do not want a cure all drug available to the population that they can grow in their backyard. That helps with so many issues, such as pain, adhd etc etc etc. They own our congress via huge anonymous campaign donations. Remember, corporations are people.
See there is a reason why nobody has thought of this, and that's because nobody has thought of all the aspects of everyone's request.
 

1stHempBankLBGrower

Active Member
i dont know what this "marijuana" you speak of might be, but we're talking about cannabis which is not a "cure all drug" it's more of a "Fuck It All" drug with some helpful properties for some diseases.
Everyone has their thoughts and options. I like yours as well. It has a cause and effect of some sort. .
 

1stHempBankLBGrower

Active Member
No no, you want to make cheddar off a regulated (ie. monopolised) "medical marijuana" market with penalties for recreational users...that is BULLSHIT. You talk freedom and "legalisation"?

"Private, what is you major malfunction?!"
People are going to be mad but someone always has to get hurt for another happiness, yet everyone has an opportunity to "work with or agree" with whatever system comes around.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
i too have a financial interest in weed, as buying dope is expensive as fuck, and the dispensary grass is too often garbage.

im pro total legalization, but check out the OP's username. im bettin his system is a financial institution that collects and passes on tax revenue from cannabis growers and dispensaries as a financial middleman. it wont ever work, as the banking system doesnt work that way. you cant start a weed based building and loan, because weed is federally restricted, and banking is regulated by the federal reserve bank board. the federal reserve trustees will NEVER sign off on any institution as a canabis middleman, and the dea would seize the entire operation as an illegal drug enterprise right before the IRS tries to sieze his "system" as a money laundering front.

or... my new all time favorite, the IRS will disallow all standard business deductions because the business is illegal. What business can long exist without those deductions. Beyond that are the zoning and business licenses. I retained a lawyer a while back in order to try to get a business license for a dispensary. The lawyer was thrilled. He said no business licenses for the production or sale of marijuana had ever been issued. Further he thought we had a loophole that could be fought. An apparal vendor need not describe the sorts of clothing it intended to dispense, that "casual women's clothing" is enough, so "plants and healing herbs" should be enough for any license and yet as many times as it had been tried, it was turned down for a lack of specificity. He laid out the plan whereby we would exhaust every legitimate avenue and then begin litigation, estimating that the entire campaign couldn't cost more than about $50,000 dollars. And this just to get a license that ordinarly costs a few hundred dollars. He wanted to be a marijuana legal pioneer with my money.

There are certain municipalities that go by a list of business categories with codes corresponding to each category (I had run afoul of this list before with another endeavor). You can't have a business unless it is already listed and coded. He said we could simply petition the municipality to include marijuana dispensory and that might only cost $20,000, far less if I knew anyone with influence in the city. If we include DOJ pressure on local government officials in the form of threatening letters, that $20k might spiral with absolutely no chance of sucess.

There is, or was, a local group of dispensaries that has recently been shut down, the federal reason was that those dispensaries did not abide by local ordinance. I have never heard of the Feds enforcing local laws. The fact was that the owner continued his business (at a profit) for two years while still paying a $1000 a day fine for not having a proper business license.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
i dont know what this "marijuana" you speak of might be, but we're talking about cannabis which is not a "cure all drug" it's more of a "Fuck It All" drug with some helpful properties for some diseases.

The blunt truth always has such a solid thump.
 

1stHempBankLBGrower

Active Member
or... my new all time favorite, the IRS will disallow all standard business deductions because the business is illegal. What business can long exist without those deductions. Beyond that are the zoning and business licenses. I retained a lawyer a while back in order to try to get a business license for a dispensary. The lawyer was thrilled. He said no business licenses for the production or sale of marijuana had ever been issued. Further he thought we had a loophole that could be fought. An apparal vendor need not describe the sorts of clothing it intended to dispense, that "casual women's clothing" is enough, so "plants and healing herbs" should be enough for any license and yet as many times as it had been tried, it was turned down for a lack of specificity. He laid out the plan whereby we would exhaust every legitimate avenue and then begin litigation, estimating that the entire campaign couldn't cost more than about $50,000 dollars. And this just to get a license that ordinarly costs a few hundred dollars. He wanted to be a marijuana legal pioneer with my money.

There are certain municipalities that go by a list of business categories with codes corresponding to each category (I had run afoul of this list before with another endeavor). You can't have a business unless it is already listed and coded. He said we could simply petition the municipality to include marijuana dispensory and that might only cost $20,000, far less if I knew anyone with influence in the city. If we include DOJ pressure on local government officials in the form of threatening letters, that $20k might spiral with absolutely no chance of sucess.

There is, or was, a local group of dispensaries that has recently been shut down, the federal reason was that those dispensaries did not abide by local ordinance. I have never heard of the Feds enforcing local laws. The fact was that the owner continued his business (at a profit) for two years while still paying a $1000 a day fine for not having a proper business license.
Whom is this that your lawyer contacted about his and your proposal?
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
Whom is this that your lawyer contacted about his and your proposal?
Contacted? The guy is one of the formost lawyers in the pot industry in this area. I no longer retain him simply because the souring atmosphere in my state made my enterprise look less and less fortunate. He had originaly agreed to represent any landlord we found who was willing to lease to us on our retainer. That was not enough and the only potential landlords we found jacked up the price and presented stipuations we were unwilling to agree to. We found a bank that we knew was leasing for a reasonably affordable price but when we presented our ideas to the landlord she insisted that two and a half times more a month was not too much to ask. While the bank was ideal, with drive up window, a working vault and fully wired for security, the price was too high.

I am now working on something that will probably do well regardless of the legal atmosphere. If large corporations corner the market with pharma designs or inhalers or what have you, I can sell my processes. If dispensaries continue, I can sell them my product and legally I am in a solid grey area with the feds as I technicaly do not grow or sell "plants" in the legal sense of the word. If everything returns to the underground, some of the folks who do underground work have expressed a desire to work with my product as well.

I don't know what you are doing but if it is not completely innovative and it is not something that will secure you a place in any legal atmosphere I would highly advise you to change your approach.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
i dunno, im reading the OP's posts and it sounds more and more like the kind of verbiage you find in a nigerian 419 e-mail.

here in california authorized patients with the recommendation can grow their own herb, but every jurisdiction makes their own rules, and changes them regularly. the feds have started enforcing their regulations (not laws, just regs) against any grower who draws their attention, and any distributor that pops up on the radar.

they are even pressuring local cops and sherrifs to enforce federal regs (despite the new prohibition on locals enforcing federal laws and regs)so i have little hope that the feds will any time soon bother to examine their own hypocrisy, thats why i keep my shit on the low-low,, and i wont be paying any tax on any profits from any endeavor that they so underhandedly obstruct.

much love to the OP,, but fuck systems of compliance and submission to federal regulatory power.
 

1stHempBankLBGrower

Active Member
Contacted? The guy is one of the formost lawyers in the pot industry in this area. I no longer retain him simply because the souring atmosphere in my state made my enterprise look less and less fortunate. He had originaly agreed to represent any landlord we found who was willing to lease to us on our retainer. That was not enough and the only potential landlords we found jacked up the price and presented stipuations we were unwilling to agree to. We found a bank that we knew was leasing for a reasonably affordable price but when we presented our ideas to the landlord she insisted that two and a half times more a month was not too much to ask. While the bank was ideal, with drive up window, a working vault and fully wired for security, the price was too high.

I am now working on something that will probably do well regardless of the legal atmosphere. If large corporations corner the market with pharma designs or inhalers or what have you, I can sell my processes. If dispensaries continue, I can sell them my product and legally I am in a solid grey area with the feds as I technicaly do not grow or sell "plants" in the legal sense of the word. If everything returns to the underground, some of the folks who do underground work have expressed a desire to work with my product as well.

I don't know what you are doing but if it is not completely innovative and it is not something that will secure you a place in any legal atmosphere I would highly advise you to change your approach.

Im legal. Why don't you contact me via email and we could talk private @ [email protected]. I am interested in your product.

I understand exactly what you mean. About jackin up the price on lease. Why not buy?
 
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